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So then have you torn I Jn and like passages out of you Bible??
Consistency, thou art a rare jewel,
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Quote from: duval on December 17, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Hi Dan
So then have you torn I Jn and like passages out of you Bible??
Consistency, thou art a rare jewel,
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Hi duval , and this is one answer I get from those who have NO ANSWER and then say things , just as you have !!!
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Hi Dan
My response was rational and UNLIKE any answer from those in denomninations.
I ask if you had torn I Jn out of your Bible because you obviously had not dealt with the word "if". Still waiting
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Quote from: duval on December 18, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
Hi Dan
My response was rational and UNLIKE any answer from those in denomninations.
I ask if you had torn I Jn out of your Bible because you obviously had not dealt with the word "if". Still waiting
God Bless,duval
Hi duval , and you think that I am avoiding and answer , now I am amused , and of course I have not torn it out ,
And if you have you have STRONG'S and VINES , you have not kept to the OP .
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Hi Dan
I got on this forum but recentliy and began making posts onliy to those posts which were current. I shall continue to do so. I am going where you lead, but you do not seem inclined to answer some matters like questions about that word "if" in I Jn.1. If you wish to ignore it that is your problem and thus for all practical purposes you have torn I Jn.1 from your Bible . Seems I remember a king in the OT who with his rash pinknife cut from God's Word what didn'tt suit him. I suspect this will at least spur you on to give some attention to it.
God bless you in your search for the truth
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Quote from: duval on December 18, 2010, 09:34:43 PM
Hi Dan
I got on this forum but recentliy and began making posts onliy to those posts which were current. I shall continue to do so. I am going where you lead, but you do not seem inclined to answer some matters like questions about that word "if" in I Jn.1. If you wish to ignore it that is your problem and thus for all practical purposes you have torn I Jn.1 from your Bible . Seems I remember a king in the OT who with his rash pinknife cut from God's Word what didn'tt suit him. I suspect this will at least spur you on to give some attention to it.
God bless you in your search for the truth
duval
Hi duval and I have answered it , but is is probably on another page , and the word " if , might , maybe " describe Possibilities , THAT MIGHT HAPPEN , like the Subjunctive Mood of Possibilities , dan p
If you want answers n, then stick to the OP , OR START your own OP . You are the one asking question , but will it SPUR you on to real learning ??
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My friend I'm simply following what you currently write.
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Hi to all , and many believers say and quote 1 John 1:9 , if we confess our sins , He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins , and cleanse us FROM all unrighteousness .
It does not say "if we confess each and all of our sins daily". John is talking about believing on Jesus alone to be saved, not of working your way to salvation by confessing each and all of our sins. Because you're a sinner, you'll die and go to hell. But if you acknowledge that you're a sinner and don't deserve it on your own merits to go to heaven, but believe on Jesus and on Jesus alone to be saved, you'll go to heaven.
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Hello Dan
Still waiting for you to handle what the beloved apostle John said about "if" and "sin" and "deceive"" and the "truth" not in us and making God a "liar" in I Jn.1:7-10. I cannot allow you to change the subject and walk away from the issue.
And while we are at it, what about John's statement in I Jn.2:1: "- - - -if any man sin,- - -" ? Please inform.
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Quote from: duval on December 28, 2010, 11:57:37 AM
Hello Dan
Still waiting for you to handle what the beloved apostle John said about "if" and "sin" and "deceive"" and the "truth" not in us and making God a "liar" in I Jn.1:7-10. I cannot allow you to change the subject and walk away from the issue.
And while we are at it, what about John's statement in I Jn.2:1: "- - - -if any man sin,- - -" ? Please inform.
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God loves you - - -duval
Hi duval , and " IF , MAYBE , OR MIGHT is used it is in the Subjunctive Mood of Possibilities , doe not mean that that person will do that action !!
Very simple to understand !!
The other question , like Col 2:13 , " having forgiven you ALL trespasses ."
Does ALL here mean ALL
All of Hebrews thru Revelation are all written to the New Covenant Jews !!!
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Hi Dan
The beloved apostle John by inspiration of the Holy Spirit still says: "if we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us." The NT being true and God cannot lie (Tit.1:3) convicts you!
John also wrote: "if any man sin". If as teach the Christian cannot sin, John, and God and the Holy Spirit thru John wasted tilme in so writing and I for one do not believe they waste time nor do I believe They teach false doctrine!! Please face the issue of this thread which you started.
God bless- - - -duval
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Quote from: duval on December 28, 2010, 07:14:42 PM
Hi Dan
The beloved apostle John by inspiration of the Holy Spirit still says: "if we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us." The NT being true and God cannot lie (Tit.1:3) convicts you!
John also wrote: "if any man sin". If as teach the Christian cannot sin, John, and God and the Holy Spirit thru John wasted tilme in so writing and I for one do not believe they waste time nor do I believe They teach false doctrine!! Please face the issue of this thread which you started.
God bless- - - -duval
Hi duval , and the quandary that you have is that Christ died for sins ONCE for sins and did not die many times like the RCC say !
I never said that we do not sin !!
Hebrews 9:26 , " but now ONCE , ONCE , ONCE , in the end of the world hath He appeared to put away SIN by the Sacrifice of Himself .
I do not believe in SINLESS PERFECTION , AT ALL .
" SIN " is singular and refers to the " ROOT " of sin nature which we inherit from Adam . " SINS " is plural and REFERS to the Results of sin , and this bis mentioned in verse 28 as the MESSIAH bearing the SINS of many .
So , the whole sin problem has been taken care of FOREVER BY HIS SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS .
Therefore , when the Gospel of the Grace of God is PROCLAIMED , it becomes " the Son problem " instead of a " sin problem " for unbelievers TODAY .
And read , but you are the ONE who needs to understand that there is a difference for ALL SIN being FORGIVEN and out relationship between the New Nature and the Old Nature that we ALL still have , until the Bema Seat .
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Dan you may talk on and on but I Jn.1 and 2 remains in your Bible. Yet you have made wonderful progress in that you admit that you DO sin. Now, from those same passages above you must learn there is something you must DO for their cleansing.
God bless you in your study,
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