The Swine Flu Shot

[nChrist]

This is EXACTLY what the Dr we heard in Boca Raton at a Bible conference say would happen. He named this condition and many others that wouldn't even be named because of the ingredients and their previous "perfomance" in vaccines. We'll be hearing them speak again next Sunday at our church. Will tell you what we learn.

We are not hearing all that's going on out there as I've heard from NY. There are alot of unreported problems.

The news media isn't covering this story. I wonder if they've been told not to.

[Soldier4Christ]

The news media isn't covering this story. I wonder if they've been told not to.

I wouldn't doubt that at all.

[Barbara]

I wonder the same thing, blackeyedpeas!

This is not the country we knew. Terrible things are happening so quickly!

We heard a sermon a few years ago that is haunting us now because we seem to be seeing something so similar to what we were taught from the book of Revelation. Don't remember exactly all the details, but we were told that after a monetary collapse there would be a significant population reduction that would involve death by 'therion' in the Greek, 'beasts of the fields' in the KJV! This virus is eerily similar to that verse in Revelation! These 'mixtures' that are being passed as 'flu therapy' contain assorted viruses from the 'beasts of the field' and so does the flu itself!

Also read today that part of the new 'HealthCare Bill' would require mandatory vaccinations.

We can only draw closer and closer to the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! - studying, with all diligence, His Word, which guides us in the way we should walk in accordance with His will and His ways!!!! He makes a way where there is no way!!

[nChrist]

I wonder the same thing, blackeyedpeas!

This is not the country we knew. Terrible things are happening so quickly!

We heard a sermon a few years ago that is haunting us now because we seem to be seeing something so similar to what we were taught from the book of Revelation. Don't remember exactly all the details, but we were told that after a monetary collapse there would be a significant population reduction that would involve death by 'therion' in the Greek, 'beasts of the fields' in the KJV! This virus is eerily similar to that verse in Revelation! These 'mixtures' that are being passed as 'flu therapy' contain assorted viruses from the 'beasts of the field' and so does the flu itself!

Also read today that part of the new 'HealthCare Bill' would require mandatory vaccinations.

We can only draw closer and closer to the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! - studying, with all diligence, His Word, which guides us in the way we should walk in accordance with His will and His ways!!!! He makes a way where there is no way!!

God's Word tells us there is much worse yet to come, but things appear to be escalating for the worse every day now. I personally believe that Christ will Rapture His Church before the Tribulation Period, but maybe my opinion is wrong. I love your last two sentences. If we follow your advice, God will be with us every step of the way until He comes to take us Home.

If someone would have told me just a year ago what we would see today, I would have doubted it. I'm guilty of having too much trust in our system of government, our rule of Law, and our Constitution. I was naive and didn't think that anyone would get away with constant law and Constitution violations. I still have a glimmer of hope that our laws and Constitutions will be enforced. On the other side of the coin, I firmly believe that the Tribulation Period is near. If so, man has just started to make the worst mess in history. I also know that nothing will be able to stop it when God's appointed time arrives. It would be wonderful if the Rapture happened today. Regardless, we should yield ourselves for God's Use until the last moment. The only way I know how to do that is to follow the advice in your last two sentences.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Isaiah 45:22-23  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.  23  I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

[David_james]

My doctor just told me that the vaccine is actually safe and that the cause of death isn't true. Therefore, I'd like to know where you guys get your information.

[Soldier4Christ]

http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?topic=25468.msg280198#msg280198

These are all news headlines that I copied off the internet. Using them in an internet search will get you the sources. There is a strong disagreement on this subject depending on which Dr you talk to. There are as many against it as there are for it. It is a personal decision that everyone has to make. As for me, I get bad side effects from the regular flu shot and my current health is suspected to be caused by a shot that was pushed through as this one was so there is no question in my own mind about not taking the swine flu shot.

[HisDaughter]

I think that anything more than one malfunctioning body part gets you an honorary membership. However, Alzheimer's is an automatic, free lifetime membership. By the way, multiple personalities qualifies as more than one malfunctioning part.  

I haven't laughed so much in quite awhile as I did reading this!  By the way...does having to put your glasses on so that you can hear count?

[David_james]

Well some sites say it is safe and won't cause death. It is so confusing.

[Barbara]

Hi David!

I have the name of a website, but I don't think I'm allowed to post it on the forum. There are Christian people lecturing all over the country about the effects and the content of these shots. They are Doctors. I am going to a lecture today. They're treating patients with Gulf War Syndrome and are seeing the same ingredients (listed above in other posts) that are suspected to cause so much damage, in the swine flu shots.

Am I allowed to post a website?

Today I got an email from another ministry that 3 pregnant women lost their babies immediately after getting this shot. They were told it was safe, too.
My girlfriend in NY is an RN and knows of 13 children that have died immediately after getting this shot.

I'll give you as much info as I can after today's lecture. I'll also post some more info from the website I mentioned. They're trying to get the message out. That's all they can do.

[Soldier4Christ]

Hi Barbara,

I don't see a problem with posting the link at this time. If there is a problem with it then it will be a simple matter to remove the link.

[Barbara]

Thank you Pastor Roger!

There's so much more info on these folks website. As a short history, they lost their 4 year old daughter, who had gotten a number of vaccinations back in 1999. Her death and previous disability was traced back to ingredients in those vaccinations. Since then, as you can imagine, they've been trying to spread the word, and are very active with other Doctors around the world, doing research in this area, and are very sensitive to the ingredients in these vaccines. They've just recently restored someone we know who had Gulf War Syndrome, from a wheel chair to walking 3 miles a day, within a short period of time. Their website is:

http://www.vacinfo.org/True.htm

We were at a conference this weekend that was 'eye opening'. Even visited his office where they have some really 'mind blowing' technology to help diagnose the amount of toxins in your body.

[Soldier4Christ]

Confirmed: 24 cases of anaphylaxis following H1N1 shots
1 death from severe allergic reaction that can cause a person's airways to close up

There have been 24 confirmed cases of a type of severe allergic reaction called anaphylaxis in Canadians who have received an H1N1 flu shot, including one person who died after getting vaccinated, the head of the Public Health Agency of Canada said Wednesday.

Dr. David Butler-Jones said the person who died - identified in the media as a Quebec man in his 80s - met the criteria for having an anaphylactic reaction. But he said it's still not clear whether that or other health problems caused the death.

"There were a number of other situations. So exactly what the ultimate cause was or what the issues are, that will take some time, I understand, to investigate," said Butler-Jones.

Anaphylaxis is a severe allergic reaction that can cause a person's airways to close up. It can be fatal and must be treated quickly with adrenaline, generally administered via the EpiPen devices carried by people with severe food or insect sting allergies.

Butler-Jones disclosed the information in Ottawa during a news conference at which federal health officials revealed flu activity appears to be levelling off in some parts of the country.

They did not say where, though Butler-Jones did mention there has been a decline in new hospitalizations in British Columbia, which was at the forefront of the current wave of activity.

However, Butler-Jones warned a good chunk of the Canadian population is likely still susceptible to the virus. He estimated between five and 10 per cent of people have probably been ill and about 25 per cent have been vaccinated.

"Influenza remains an unpredictable disease," he said.

"And reaching the plateau of the second wave in some communities does not mean that the pandemic is over. There is still the other side of the peak. And there remain millions of infections to be prevented."

Officials hope to persuade millions more of those folks to get vaccinated, especially now that vaccine production is expected to more than keep pace with demand.

Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq said she will be vaccinated within the next few days. She noted that by the end of this week a total of more than 15 million doses of vaccine will have been shipped to the provinces and territories.

That's almost enough for half the country's population, nearly the proportion of Canadians who've indicated in the most recent public opinion polls that they intend to get vaccinated.

Butler-Jones said despite the signals there may be a levelling off underway, flu activity remains four to seven times higher than is normally seen at this time of year. That's not altogether surprising - there generally isn't much flu activity at this point in the year.

For the week ending Nov. 14 there were 1,674 new hospitalizations, 261 ICU admissions and 84 deaths, he said. As of Tuesday, there had been 279 laboratory confirmed deaths in Canada caused by this virus.

On the issue of serious adverse reactions to the H1N1 vaccine, Butler-Jones said the rate of anaphylactic events was about 0.32 cases for every 100,000 doses of vaccine delivered - a figure that's within the norm for mass vaccination efforts.

And an official of the Centers for Disease Control said the U.S. agency has looked at reports of severe allergic reactions after H1N1 shots and isn't seeing anything abnormal.

"We've also looked in a little more detail at severe allergic reactions, and, again, those are not showing up more commonly than we would expect," said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC's national center for immunization and respiratory diseases.

Attention was drawn to the issue of anaphylaxis last week when vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline told provinces to stop using vaccine from a batch of 172,000 doses that was sent out last month. The halt-use order was issued because six people vaccinated from that batch developed anaphylaxis - a higher than expected number of such cases.

All but 15,000 doses of the vaccine had been used by the time the halt-use order was issued, said Dr. Danielle Grondin, assistant deputy minister of the public health agency.

But confirmed cases of anaphylaxis have been seen with other batches as well. And some possible cases may still be under investigation.

Ursula Fournier's son Max is one. The Halifax mother said Wednesday she's still waiting to hear if the reaction Max, 4 1/2, suffered when he got his shot on Nov. 3 was anaphylaxis.

Almost immediately after getting the shot, Max went limp, Fournier said. His blood pressure dropped and his breathing got "really laboured and loud," she said.

Staff of the clinic quickly used an EpiPen to revive the boy, who was then taken to the local children's hospital, IWK Health Centre, where he was kept under observation for six hours.

Fournier was told Max's doctor would be contacted and the boy would be referred to an allergy specialist. But she'd like to know if her son had an anaphylactic reaction.

"I would think as his parent it's my responsibility to get to the bottom of it," said Fournier, who expressed frustration at the lack of information.

[nChrist]

I haven't laughed so much in quite awhile as I did reading this!  By the way...does having to put your glasses on so that you can hear count?

Yes, and looking for your glasses for over an hour while they're on top of your head also counts.   

[nChrist]

Thanks Pastor Roger and Sister Barbara for all of the additional information on the swine flu vaccine. I have already decided that I won't take it, regardless of circumstances.

I took the regular flu shot, but only after my doctor told me it was completely safe. I would rather take my chances with the swine flu than all of the possible effects of the vaccine.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[Barbara]

Hey blackeyedpeas --- I just noticed that now I'm officially called a "SENIOR MEMBER" --- I knew there was no way to hide my age!!