Toward the USA breaking off with Israel

[HisDaughter]

Brzezinski suggests Obama shoot down Israeli jets if they take action against Iran

wnd.com


The national security adviser during President Jimmy Carter's administration says the U.S. should confront Israeli jets if that nation chooses to take military action against Iran's nuclear threat.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, in an interview with the Daily Beast website, declared, "We are not exactly impotent little babies."

Israel long has been thought to be considering a military strike against the Islamic regime's suspected development of nuclear weapon technology. Israel has stated it is unwilling to be threatened by a leader with access to nuclear weapons who believes it should be wiped off the map, as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has declared.

But an Israeli attack on Iran probably would have to fly over coalition airspace in Iraq.

"Are we just going to sit there and watch?" Brzezinski asked.

He said the U.S. has to be "serious" about denying Israel the right to attack.

"That means a denial where you aren't just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not," he said.

"No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse," he said.

The Liberty was a U.S. ship in international waters in the Middle East during the Six-Day War in 1967 that was hit by Israeli gunfire.

Brzezinski advised Carter on confrontations in Iran, Afghanistan and the Middle East during Carter's White House tenure.

He said the Obama administration also already should have developed "a clearer position on what we are prepared to do to promote a Palestinian-Israeli peace."

"Simply giving a frequent-traveler ticket to George Mitchell is not the same thing as policy. It took a long time to get going on Iran, but there is an excuse there, the Iranian domestic mess. And we are now eight months into the administration, and I would have thought by now we could have formulated a strategy that we would have considered 'our' strategy for dealing with Iran and Pakistan," he said.

"For example, the Carter administration, which is sometimes mocked, by now had in motion a policy of disarmament with the Russians, which the Russians didn't like, but eventually bought; it had started a policy of normalization with the Chinese; it rammed through the Panama Canal treaty; and it was moving very, very openly toward an Israeli-Arab political peace initiative," he said.

WND columnist and New York Times best-selling author Mike Evans wrote about Brzezinski just before the 2008 election, explaining how Obama added Brzezinski to his list of "advisers."

"One of Brzezinski's first jobs as adviser was to defend Obama's plan, if elected, to meet with Iran and Syria: 'What's the hand-up about negotiating with the Syrians or Iranians?' asked Brzezinski. 'What it in effect means is that you only talk to people who agree with you.'

"People who agree with you?" wrote Evans. "I, for one, would like to know just why Obama would want to talk with Iran's president who denies the Holocaust, has called Israel a 'stinking corpse' and vowed to wipe it off the map."

WND columnist Ben Shapiro noted about that time Brzezinski "believes that the Jewish lobby forces America into pro-Israel policy, and he defends Carter's anti-Semitic book, "Peace, Not Apartheid."

[nChrist]

We know what the future holds for Israel according to Bible Prophecy. It isn't surprising at all that Obama has already thrown Israel under the bus. He's done it openly for the whole world to see. Bluntly, the pieces are coming together for the Tribulation Period. We already know many details from the Bible, and we certainly know how the story ends. It's very sad to see our nation turning against Israel. We know from polls that this is not the will of the people, but how many things are the will of the people these days?

[Shammu]

Things are going to become rougher, for Israel in the coming future. I do feel sad for Israel, of what is going to happen. They wouldn't have the judgments coming if, they would come to God. But as the Bible tells us;

Jeremiah 5:5, 20-25 I will get me unto the great men, and will speak unto them; for they have known the way of the LORD, and the judgment of their God: but these have altogether broken the yoke, and burst the bonds. 20 Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying, 21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: 22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it? 23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone. 24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest. 25 Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.

If only Israel, would turn back to the Lord, the coming judgments wouldn't happen to them. But as we know the people of Israel (Judah) are a stubborn people.

And yes, I do pray for Israel as all Christians should pray for God's people.

Yes I am against Obama for his decision to turn against Israel. Since Israel became a nation on May 15 1948, America has supported Israel. Now with Obamanation in office we can see the world, as it turns against Israel. To me this is a sad time in history, when America turning against, Israel. 

All I can say is, we should all be praying for Israel, and the Jewish people.

[nChrist]

Yes Brother, we can and should pray for Israel and the Jewish people every day. We can't be responsible for everything our government does, but we can be responsible for ourselves as Christians:

Psalms 122:1-9  I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD.  2  Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.  3  Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:  4  Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the LORD.  5  For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.  6  Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.  7  Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.  8  For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.  9  Because of the house of the LORD our God I will seek thy good.

We can also remind our representatives that those who go against Israel will be damned. If they ask why, remind them that Jesus Christ Himself is the anointed King of Israel.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[HisDaughter]

We can also remind our representatives that those who go against Israel will be damned. If they ask why, remind them that Jesus Christ Himself is the anointed King of Israel.

Love In Christ,
Tom

I think the only reason God has held off on His judgement of America is that we have been allies with Israel.  When we quit doing that.....look out!
I feel like one of those crazy people that gets depicted in movies and such wearing a white robe and holding up a sign, crying, "The End Is Near!" 
Especially when trying to talk to my unsaved kids, etc.  But I'd rather be thought "crazy" than to keep silent.

[nChrist]

I think the only reason God has held off on His judgement of America is that we have been allies with Israel.  When we quit doing that.....look out!
I feel like one of those crazy people that gets depicted in movies and such wearing a white robe and holding up a sign, crying, "The End Is Near!" 
Especially when trying to talk to my unsaved kids, etc.  But I'd rather be thought "crazy" than to keep silent.

Brother, I'll be happy to be crazy with you. You and your family will be in my prayers. Brother, these are days and times when we all need prayer, and it's a beautiful thing we can do for each other. On top of everything else, we know that God loves to hear our prayers, especially when they are for others. He answers our prayers according to His Perfect Will and Purpose.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[Soldier4Christ]

Brother, I'll be happy to be crazy with you. You and your family will be in my prayers. Brother, these are days and times when we all need prayer, and it's a beautiful thing we can do for each other. On top of everything else, we know that God loves to hear our prayers, especially when they are for others. He answers our prayers according to His Perfect Will and Purpose.

Love In Christ,
Tom

lol. Just blame it on old timers and being busy, sister.

[HisDaughter]

lol. Just blame it on old timers and being busy, sister.

I see what you mean!  Since none of is rich maybe we could take up a collection to get him a subscription to this.....

[nChrist]

lol. Just blame it on old timers and being busy, sister.

   I see what I did now.

Sister Yvette, I'll try harder not to call you "Brother". I might have needed a cup of coffee before posting. Either that, or I misplaced my head temporarily.

AND - I do want a subscription to that "Cranky Old Coot Quarterly".