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« on: January 13, 2004, 10:03:37 AM »

In John 3:16, Jesus refers to himself in third person (grammarically), but elsewhere in scripture, He refers to himself in first person (I come that they may have life...I and the Father are one). Does any one have any ideas on this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2004, 10:13:47 AM »

The law of PROCESSION is found in scripture. All 3 members of the Godhead are co-equal but the Son proceeds from the Father and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son.

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2004, 10:31:01 AM »

In John 3:16, Jesus refers to himself in third person (grammarically), but elsewhere in scripture, He refers to himself in first person (I come that they may have life...I and the Father are one). Does any one have any ideas on this?

Welcome Mrs D.:

Actually, the Lord Jesus referred to Himself at least as frequently in the third person  as in the first.  You will notice in John 3:13 & 14 that He calls Himself "the Son of Man", and that was the most frequent title which He gave to Himself. That's because He would be the Man of Sorrows and the Lord would lay upon Him the inquity of us all.

I believe that the Lord Jesus was using this form of speech with Nicodemus in order to teach "the doctrine of Christ" (2 Jn.9-11) in a formal way, as He also does in John 5 and other Scriptures, and to have us understand that the words He spoke came directly from the Father.

The Lord said in John 7:16: "MY DOCTRINE IS NOT MINE, BUT HIS THAT SENT ME", so as the One who was sent by the Father, He gave us the Father's words concerning the Son, and John testifies in 1 Jn. 5:9: "If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which He hath testified of His Son".

The doctrine of Christ is the key doctrine of Scripture:

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, hath not God. He that abideth in THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, he hath both the Father and the Son.  If there come any unto you, and bring not THIS DOCTRINE, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is parkataker of his evil deeds" (2 Jn.9-11.

The doctrine of Christ in a nutshell is that the Son of Man is the Son of God, and the Son of God is fully GOD and fully sinless Man. Theological liberals and many of the cults deny this, and can trace their roots to Gnosticism, which also denied this doctrine.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2004, 03:47:54 PM »

Mrs. D. Welcome to the forum,

The teaching you bring to light is referred to as the Hypostatic Union of God, here is a website which might help explain it.

Http://www.carm.org/doctrine/2natures.htm

The Holy Spirit, is one in unity with both the 1st and 2d person of the God head.

The same Spirit which raised Jesus from the dead (Rom 6:11) which dwells in us (Christians), is that same Spirit of whom Jesus said;

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.  (Jhn 14:18)

Here He refers to Himself as that Spirit which raised Him  from the dead.

Clearly it cannot be totally understaood by mere mortals, yet with that Spirits illumination of the Word of God, it can be seen, that;   Jesus is God manifested in the flesh.

1 Tim 3
16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

It is a mystery yet, the scriptures reveal it..clearly to the children of God.

Blessings,

Petro
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