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« on: January 01, 2004, 07:15:41 PM »

I just finished reading a book entitled "The Cult of Jabez and the falling away of the church in America". The author is Pastor Steve Hopkins.

The thrust of the book is to expose how a multi millionaire named Bruce Wilkinson,  has taken one prayer out of the Bible and basically made it a blanket prayer, to obtain blessings from God. He exposes the self gratification theology of Prayer of Jabez, which is opposite of the prayer life that is exhibited in the Sermon on the Mount.

Quote from Steve Hopkins: "The broad appeal of the book, "The Prayer of Jabez", Can be attributed to the fact that the author (Bruce Wilkinson) preaches Christianity without cost, avoiding the message of the the Cross altogether and completely. There is no crucifixion, no death, no blood, no suffering, no trials of faith, no persecution, and in fact, not even a mention of Jesus until the book is nearly half finished. This sad reality has been a common characteristic of the best selling pseudo-Christian and 'religious" books of our time."

"The message of the Cross, which speaks of faith, humility, denial of self and obedience unto death has been exchanged for a message of personal peace, prosperity, and affluence."

If you are interested in a copy of The Cult of Jabez you can obtain one by writing to:

Bethel Press
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Price is $12.00 plus $2.00 S&H
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2004, 09:46:04 PM »


Thank you, Psalm119.  Good to hear back from you.

Yes, we are all going through a weeding out process.

There seems a defiance in the air, a hatred, of all that God and Jesus represent.  Or, a redefinition of all that our Lord represents.  So those of us who are promised to Him, should be expecting this.

Thank you, In Jesus' Name...
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2004, 12:52:28 AM »

"The Mantra of Jabez" is good, too.

Well said, Sym. There is a lot of baggage added on over the years. We need to take it back to the easy Church, as much as we can. I think God will take care of that. There is going to a lot of changes in the next few years, uniting the church as it was in the early days.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2004, 04:12:50 AM »

I just finished reading a book entitled "The Cult of Jabez and the falling away of the church in America". The author is Pastor Steve Hopkins.

The thrust of the book is to expose how a multi millionaire named Bruce Wilkinson,  has taken one prayer out of the Bible and basically made it a blanket prayer, to obtain blessings from God. He exposes the self gratification theology of Prayer of Jabez, which is opposite of the prayer life that is exhibited in the Sermon on the Mount.

Quote from Steve Hopkins: "The broad appeal of the book, "The Prayer of Jabez", Can be attributed to the fact that the author (Bruce Wilkinson) preaches Christianity without cost, avoiding the message of the the Cross altogether and completely. There is no crucifixion, no death, no blood, no suffering, no trials of faith, no persecution, and in fact, not even a mention of Jesus until the book is nearly half finished. This sad reality has been a common characteristic of the best selling pseudo-Christian and 'religious" books of our time."

"The message of the Cross, which speaks of faith, humility, denial of self and obedience unto death has been exchanged for a message of personal peace, prosperity, and affluence."

If you are interested in a copy of The Cult of Jabez you can obtain one by writing to:

Bethel Press
Box 777
Burnet, Texas 78611

Price is $12.00 plus $2.00 S&H

Thanks, good info.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2004, 03:28:55 PM »

This was written about 3 years ago, around the peak of Jabez fever.

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A friend at work was eager for me to read the little book, The Prayer of Jabez by Bruce Wilkinson. Knowing this book is immensely popular, I accepted it.

The main idea of this book--that Christians should seek God more fervently in prayer--is true and commendable. But there are four things in this book that Christians should realize before doing whatever Wilkinson says:

1. OUT OF CONTEXT

The actual prayer of Jabez is the prayer of an Old Testament Jew who was praying for God's blessing on his life. The specific desire of Jabez was for God to protect him and give him more land (to literally "increase my boundaries") which God did. The prayer meant nothing more than that.

So in order to apply this prayer to Christians today, Wilkinson has do something that no Christian should do: he spiritualizes the prayer, which means he creates a "spiritual" application for us today by making the passage mean something it never actually meant (in this case, that God will increase our "spiritual territory," not the size of our backyard). THAT IS NOT WHAT IT ORIGINALLY MEANT, but Wilkinson has to do this in order to make the prayer seem to apply to anyone today.

Few Christians like to consider this fact, but it is the TRUTH: We cannot go through the Bible picking and choosing which promises we want to apply to ourselves! The reason is because, while all of the Bible is FOR us, not all of the Bible is written TO us, nor is all of it ABOUT us. Jabez was a Jew who lived under the dispensation of the Law. We are Gentiles (non-Jews)living under the dispensation of Grace. The ONLY promises we can claim are found in the New Testament, mainly the writings of the apostle Paul, "the apostle to the Gentiles" (Romans 11:13).


2. WHERE IS CHRIST IN ALL THIS?

Wilkinson describes three encounters with people in need (the man on the island, the woman on the plane, and the woman afraid of Antichrist). He says these people opened up to him about their problems.

With the man he "spent the next hour talking through several key biblical principles for a happy marriage."

With the woman on the plane, he "laid out some biblical principles and promises for her. I prayed with her...she had broken through to forgiveness [of her husband?]" and was now "at peace."

The woman who lived in fear of Antichrist received from him "a beautiful spiritual deliverance," whatever that means.

What's missing in all of this?

There is NO MENTION whether ANY of these people were believers, or whether they had ever heard the Gospel.

I am not saying these individuals were not saved. But unless I overlooked it, Wilkinson never mentioned their spiritual state, whatever it is. If they were not saved, did he share the Gospel of God's grace with these unbelievers? Surely he would have mentioned it if he had done so--but Wilkinson never says either way! Why? For all we know, all of these people were LOST and have since died and went to Hell because Wilkinson did not give them the ONE THING they needed most: the Gospel of God's grace (2 Cor 5:14-21).

Prayer of Jabez is a HUGE seller...it has been written up in USA TODAY, the NEW YORK TIMES, and the WALL STREET JOURNAL. It is said that even non-Christians are reading and applying the book to their lives. But as far as I could tell, THE GOSPEL--THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE PEOPLE--IS NOT MENTIONED EVEN ONCE IN THE ENTIRE BOOK. Why?

3. GOD *WILL* ANSWER THE PRAYER OF JABEZ?

It's one thing to believe God will answer prayer based on a promise that He made specifically to us. . .or to hope God will give us what He knows is best, even if it is not what we ask for...and even if the answer is "no."

But Wilkinson says that if this prayer is prayed for 30 days (or longer), God WILL answer it. Doesn't this seem to cross the line from relying on God to answer prayer according to His will and knowledge of what's best, and enters the area where we rely on our prayer to influence God to do OUR will (in this case, "bless us and increase our spiritual territory")?

There is nothing wrong with wanting to increase our "spiritual territory," so long as our #1 goal is to further the gospel of the grace of God. And there are passages in the Bible which say God will not break His promises. But there is no verse in the Bible that says God HAS to do ANYTHING today in response to our "faith," or how long we ask for something "in faith." The way Wilkinson prays Jabez' prayer is a not-too-subtle attempt to exert power OVER God--to get God to do what WE want Him to do. And his explanation is that God set it up that way!

The prayer of Jabez, as it is presented in this book, mutates from being the simple prayer of an Old Testament Jew, and becomes a mystical incantation--a magical formula-- that Almighty God MUST respond to IF one prays it long enough. This is not biblical Christianity! It is very similar (I do not say "identical") to the kind of blasphemy that says "faith" is a law and a power contained in words. Such people see God as the genie in the bottle: If we "rub the bottle" {speak or confess what we want} with enough force {if we have enough "faith" behind our words}, then the genie {God} MUST give us whatever we want because even He must obey "the law of faith." That is WITCHCRAFT and SORCERY, NOT biblical faith in the biblical God...and using the prayer of Jabez the way Wilkinson teaches is VERY CLOSE to it.

Anyone who believes that today God WILL answer the prayer of Jabez (or any other prayer) simply because we have enough faith behind it, or because we pray it long enough, is engaging in a form of MAGIC...not to mention the "vain repetition" prayers condemned by Jesus. Such people should REPENT of using the prayer of Jabez--or any prayer--with the belief that God WILL answer it because He HAS to answer it. . . such a 'god' is NOT the almighty, sovereign God of the Bible.

The apostle Paul--one of the most righteous, sanctified Christians ever--prayed THREE TIMES for God to remove a "thorn" in his flesh that had plagued him. But God refused, telling Paul "my grace is sufficient for thee."

Now remember, Paul was an ex-Pharisee. As a Pharisee, Paul knew the Old Testament by heart. Did Paul not know the prayer of Jabez? Sure he did! So why did Paul not pray this prayer when condemned to death in a Roman jail, so that God "would keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me?" (that IS part of Jabez' prayer, too!) Paul evidently did not pray the prayer of Jabez, since he ended up getting his head cut off in Rome. Could the apostle Paul have used the counsel of Bruce Wilkinson?

Do not let anyone deceive you into thinking a teacher or a teaching is of God simply because it gets results. There are Muslims who swear that their financial prosperity is a direct result of praying to Allah five times a day. There are pagans who believe it rained or didn't rain (according to their wishes) because they made the right sacrifice to their idols. There are Mormons (who worship a false Christ) who claim God's blessing on their lives as a result of being Mormon. Some New Agers claim to have been healed of all manner of disease because they wear crystal necklaces. Satan is the "god of this world," and there are many things he can do that resemble miracles--including healing the sick and giving prosperity--which he wants people to believe are from God when they are not! So results, by themselves, prove nothing, because the devil can "make things happen." GOD'S WORD ALONE is our only way to know right from wrong. We are to walk by FAITH, not by SIGHT (results). Praying the prayer of Jabez-- or any prayer--with the mindset encouraged by Wilkinson is not walking by faith.

4. If you are a believer, praying the prayer of Jabez is not only not necessary, but shows a lack of knowledge regarding WHO YOU ARE IN CHRIST.

Are you shocked to hear me say that? Well, let me show you what the Bible says. If you are truly saved, you have more NOW BY FAITH then Jabez could have DREAMED of!!! The following is a VERY INCOMPLETE list of what is ours NOW if we are in Christ:


WHAT WAS I WITHOUT CHRIST?

Ungodly Romans - 5:6
A sinner Romans - 5:8
God's enemy - Romans 5:10
Condemned already Romans - 5:18
Under penalty of death - Romans 6:23
Unable to please God - Romans 8:8
Cursed Galatians - 3:10
Dead in sin - Ephesians 2:1

WHAT AM I IN CHRIST?

Crucified with Him - Galatians 2:20
Buried with Him - Colossians 2:12
Risen with Him - Colossians 2:12
Alive with Him - Colossians 2:13
Ascended with Him - Ephesians 2:6
Seated in heaven with Him - Ephesians 2:6
Joint-heir with Him - Romans 8:17
Indwelt by the Father - Ephesians 4:6
Indwelt by the Son - Colossians 1:27
Indwelt by the Holy Spirit - 1 Corinthians 3:16
A saint beloved of God - Romans 1:7
Dead to sin - Romans 6:2-11
Under grace - Romans 6:14
Eternal - Romans 6:23
Forever free of God's condemnation - Romans 8:1, 34
A child of God - Romans 8:14

WHAT IS CHRIST TO ME?

My wisdom - 1 Corinthians 1:30
My righteousness - 1 Corinthians 1:30
My sanctification - 1 Corinthians 1:30
My redemption - 1 Corinthians 1:30
My victory - 1 Corinthians 15:57
My peace - Ephesians 2:14
My hope - Colossians 1:27
My completion - Colossians 2:10
My life - Colossians 3:4


ALL OF THIS describes the person who trusts in Christ's life, death, and resurrection in our place, for our sins.

So why do we need the prayer of Jabez? WE DON'T.

If we are in Christ, we ALREADY have far greater blessings than Jabez could ever have dreamed of!

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2004, 06:19:36 AM »

Good message rightdivider, Amen

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2004, 09:00:35 PM »

So why do we need the prayer of Jabez? WE DON'T.

If we are in Christ, we ALREADY have far greater blessings than Jabez could ever have dreamed of!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2004, 08:51:59 PM »

Good post.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2004, 11:37:14 PM »

I certainly agree with the premise of the book. I think the Prayer of Jabez is off-track, for all the reasons described above. The way Jabez's prayer is used in the book doesn't seem to match up with the scriptural purpose.

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2004, 06:31:13 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 05:29:45 AM »

WOW!!!  I will have to go back and read that book again!
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2004, 04:23:38 PM »

WOW!!!  I will have to go back and read that book again!
Cheesy I just read it a few weeks ago...I didn't realize it was such a small book! With all the controversy going on, I thought surely it would be a little thicker!

I did not find anything in the Prayer of Jabez that was obviously scripturally unsound (to me); but all through the book, I felt as though I were being attacked and could not take chances by putting down my "shield".
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2004, 01:48:44 PM »

For an exhaustive look at The Prayer of Jabez, see:

http://members.shaw.ca/bereanbunch/jabez.html

It lists lots of books and sites that deal SCRIPTURALLY with TPOJ.

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