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« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2009, 05:24:25 AM »

WOW!

What has our so-called government been doing about these terrorist training camps on our own soil? Do we have  government, or are they too busy with corruption and lining their pockets to be interested in the safety of the people.

This is another perfect example of it being foolish to put any trust in men. We don't have many left that are worthy of any trust at all. Let's put it this way - they're OUTNUMBERED! Nothing should surprise us these days. Who knows - maybe our so-called government has a use for these terrorists. Realistically and eventually, we are going to have to protect our families and ourselves.
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« Reply #196 on: February 12, 2009, 11:56:37 AM »

WOW!

What has our so-called government been doing about these terrorist training camps on our own soil? Do we have  government, or are they too busy with corruption and lining their pockets to be interested in the safety of the people.

This is another perfect example of it being foolish to put any trust in men. We don't have many left that are worthy of any trust at all. Let's put it this way - they're OUTNUMBERED! Nothing should surprise us these days. Who knows - maybe our so-called government has a use for these terrorists. Realistically and eventually, we are going to have to protect our families and ourselves.


It is entirely possible our government is lax, but another possibility is that it has been thoroughly infiltrated and is being used as a sting operation to identify and track homegrown terrorists.

If so, one has to hope the authorities are "on the ball" enough to act before these people actually launch an attack.

On the other hand they may want them to launch a successful attack so they can declare a national emergency and suspend the Constitution!
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« Reply #197 on: February 12, 2009, 12:39:20 PM »

On the other hand they may want them to launch a successful attack so they can declare a national emergency and suspend the Constitution!

This is a possibility. Our current government though has the idea of moving into a one world socialist/communistic government where there is no need for borders anywhere.

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« Reply #198 on: February 12, 2009, 10:15:06 PM »

Sadly, I think that the government needs the emergencies to carry out their agenda. If the emergencies aren't big enough now, just wait and see what they do to make things WORSE. Our RULE OF LAW AND CONSTITUTIONS are a major ROADBLOCK, and they are devising ways to get around them. EMERGENCY will be a KEY that they will use. They have made it obvious that GLOBALISM is the desired destination. If these are the Last Days of this Age of Grace, GOD'S WORD tells us what will happen. At this point, it appears that the time is getting short. By all APPEARANCES, our current government is perfect for helping to usher in the Tribulation Period. The lies, deception, and resulting CHAOS are getting worse by the day.

Christians should easily be able to see the quick and systematic destruction of anything associated with good and GOD. It's all out in the open and blatant! There is no question that these things are happening, and they are happening all over the world. EVIL isn't just out of the closet - rather on MAIN STREET IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. Common decency used to be somewhat of a restraint, but common decency is beginning to disappear. It's almost invisible in many parts of the world ALREADY, and the evil progress in this part of the world is like a runaway train. Watching the MESS and CHAOS of just the last 30 days has been shocking. The MACHINERY being put in place is INTENTIONALLY DIRTY! WHY? - THE OUTPUT IS INTENDED TO BE DIRTY - AND IT WILL BE!
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« Reply #199 on: February 15, 2009, 10:09:17 PM »

Alert issued for potential teddy bear bombs

The FBI has issued an alert to 350 law enforcement agencies in the southwest and Salt Lake City for potential Valentine teddy bear bombs after a suspicious transaction at a Wal-Mart last month.

Law enforcement sources said authorities also were on the alert at airports in case the suspected bear-bombs might be carried onto airplanes on Valentine’s Day.

The FBI said a clean-shaven male, possibly of Middle Eastern descent, purchased nine Valentine teddy bears, 20 inches tall, and 14 canisters of propane, 9 inches tall, small enough to fit inside the teddy bears. The man also bought 12 packets of BBs — small, round projectiles usually fired from air guns.

He paid in cash on January 15 at the Wal-Mart in Stevenson Ranch, California, about 25 miles north of Los Angeles. He left in a white GMC or Chevrolet delivery truck.

“After September 11, that purchase warrants that we take a closer look,” FBI spokesman Matthew McLaughlin said. Authorities were notified February 4, McLaughlin said.

Authorities emphasized that the man has committed no crime, but the purchase has raised suspicions and authorities want to question him about it.

At the same time, authorities want Americans to be on the lookout for suspicious packages on Valentine’s Day due to the level of concern over the purchase.

The man was captured on surveillance tape and his picture was included in the alert to law enforcement agencies.
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« Reply #200 on: April 17, 2009, 08:34:32 PM »

Chinese spies put counterfeit chips in U.S. planes
Counter-intelligence official: 'To degrade systems ... at a time of one's choosing'

The Chinese cyber spies have penetrated so deep into the US system — ranging from its secure defence network, banking system, electricity grid to putting spy chips into its defence planes — that it can cause serious damage to the US any time, a top US official on counter-intelligence has said.

“Chinese penetrations of unclassified DoD networks have also been widely reported. Those are more sophisticated, though hardly state of the art,” said National Counterintelligence Executive, Joel Brenner, at the Austin University Texas last week, according to a transcript made available on Wednesday.

Listing out some of the examples of Chinese cyber spy penetration, he said: “We’re also seeing counterfeit routers and chips, and some of those chips have made their way into US military fighter aircraft.. You don’t sneak counterfeit chips into another nation’s aircraft to steal data. When it’s done intentionally, it’s done to degrade systems, or to have the ability to do so at a time of one’s choosing.”

Referring to the Chinese networks penetrating the cyber grids, he said: “Do I worry about those grids, and about air traffic control systems, water supply systems, and so on? You bet I do. America’s networks are being mapped. There has also been experience of both Chinese and criminal network operations in the networks of some of the banks”.
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« Reply #201 on: April 19, 2009, 09:37:55 PM »

Hello Pastor Roger,

Brother, the recent information about spies from various nations should simply make us know how weak and vulnerable we really are. When we find out about things like these and other failures of our government, the politicians simply try to shift focus to something else. This is especially true of the current administration that might as well own the mainstream media. They try to manipulate us like we're puppets. They pull the strings, and we're supposed to move in certain ways.

Not much should surprise us these days. We just don't have sufficient numbers of MORAL representatives to address all of the problems. Things like this happen when representatives have PET AGENDAS that are more important than serving the people and doing their jobs. Just one of the consequences is that we are more weak and vulnerable than ever.
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« Reply #202 on: April 20, 2009, 09:54:48 AM »

Perhaps the real lesson here is we shouldn't be relying on parts and equipment made overseas by countries that are either actively hostile to us or in competition with us. Unfortunately, almost all our electronics are now made in China. Much of our military equipment is made in the US, but uses parts from other countries, and almost all the electronics comes from overseas. How easy it is for them to build spyware right into the chips!

We also shouldn't be using insecure operating systems such as Windows in defense or utility systems. I believe the French already had trouble with a virus in their fighter jets due to this. Probably the best course here is to take a relatively secure system such as Linux and produce a new, more secure version that would just be used in these systems, but not released to the public. That would make it harder for hackers to crack. They also should have their own networks that aren't connected to the internet, or to each other.
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« Reply #203 on: April 20, 2009, 10:59:15 AM »

Perhaps the real lesson here is we shouldn't be relying on parts and equipment made overseas by countries that are either actively hostile to us or in competition with us. Unfortunately, almost all our electronics are now made in China. Much of our military equipment is made in the US, but uses parts from other countries, and almost all the electronics comes from overseas. How easy it is for them to build spyware right into the chips!

We also shouldn't be using insecure operating systems such as Windows in defense or utility systems. I believe the French already had trouble with a virus in their fighter jets due to this. Probably the best course here is to take a relatively secure system such as Linux and produce a new, more secure version that would just be used in these systems, but not released to the public. That would make it harder for hackers to crack. They also should have their own networks that aren't connected to the internet, or to each other.

Exactly right. Our Military did much of the work that is now incorporated into todays commercial technology as far as computers and the internet are concerned. They have the capability of their own operating systems that are completely free from Windows or Linux platforms. They also have the capability of their own network that is completely free from the internet and both should indeed be kept separated for all of the reasons given above. It is completely stupid to do anything else. We may as well package everything up and throw in the silver platter to boot if we do not keep them separate.

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« Reply #204 on: April 20, 2009, 04:32:19 PM »

Hello Pastor Roger, Brother Rhys, and All,

First, Brother Rhys, I agree with you completely. Second, Pastor Roger, I'm happy to hear that we have separate operating systems that aren't so vulnerable to attack. Windows wasn't designed for security at all, and I would hope that all users know this fact. Linux is more secure, but it still wouldn't be appropriate for use in our survival. Unix is even more secure, and they have various levels of encryption that can be used with Unix. Many banks and more serious concerns use Unix, but I still wouldn't want our survival to depend on Unix. I'm familiar with some older operating systems that are more secure, but I'm still happy that our survival doesn't depend on any of them. I would hope and pray that operating systems designed for our survival are at least 10 times more secure than any individual home user could use.
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« Reply #205 on: April 20, 2009, 04:43:50 PM »

It has been 22 yrs since I was in the Navy so I am sure that things have changed significantly and just how it has changed I wouldn't have a clue. Hopefully it has changed for the better instead of worse. I would seriously hope that they maintained the same system setup and just improved on it instead of going into any kind of adaptations to Windows and the internet.

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« Reply #206 on: April 21, 2009, 01:27:53 AM »

It has been 22 yrs since I was in the Navy so I am sure that things have changed significantly and just how it has changed I wouldn't have a clue. Hopefully it has changed for the better instead of worse. I would seriously hope that they maintained the same system setup and just improved on it instead of going into any kind of adaptations to Windows and the internet.



Hello Pastor Roger,

Brother, I think that they did keep it and simply improved it. I have friends who do nothing but programming for the Armed Forces. In fact, it's a pretty big operation, and they don't answer any questions about anything they do. Anything you get from them is very vague, and it must be to keep them out of Leavenworth Federal Prison. I don't have a clue which programming language they might use for what they do, and I don't want to know. They do modularized work that is specialized to the extent that they don't even know how their end product is integrated. This is the way that it should be. It's nobody's business which language they use for programming, and it isn't the business of anyone working there to know how things are integrated. I feel quite certain that anyone asking too many questions or the wrong questions would be dealing with the FBI pretty quick. Again, this is the way it should be, and I would be very upset if they didn't use proper security. Many lives depend on the security they use, so I would report any of their workers who talked too much or WRONG about what they do. It's classified, and it MUST stay that way.
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« Reply #207 on: May 03, 2009, 11:43:33 AM »

Guess how DHS defines who is a terrorist now?
2nd 'domestic extremism' report includes 'alternative media,' 'tax resisters' in lexicon

Two weeks before the U.S. Department of Homeland Security penned its controversial report warning against "right-wing extremists" in the United States, it generated a memo defining dozens of additional groups – animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin – as potential "threats."

Though the "Domestic Extremism Lexicon" was reportedly rescinded almost immediately, Benjamin Sarlin of The Daily Beast recently obtained and published online ( http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2009/04/30/-hsra-domestic-extremism-lexicon_165213935473.pdf ) a copy of the unclassified memo, dated March 26, 2009.

While many of the groups listed in the lexicon – such as Aryan prison gangs and neo-Nazis – may indeed be widely considered extremists, others will likely take offense at being described as a potential "threat."

For example, the memo defines the "tax resistance movement" – also referred to in the report as the tax protest movement or the tax freedom movement – as "groups or individuals who vehemently believe taxes violate their constitutional rights. Among their beliefs are that wages are not income, that paying income taxes is voluntary, and that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which allowed Congress to levy taxes on income, was not properly ratified."

The report, however, continues in its assessment of tax protesters, asserting that members "have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism in an attempt to advance their extremist goals."

Similarly, the lexicon concludes its definition of "black separatists" by asserting, "Such groups or individuals also may embrace radical religious beliefs. Members have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence directed toward local law enforcement in an attempt to advance their extremist goals."

In his blog piece titled "Who You Calling an Extremist?" Sarlin writes, "Partisans leapt to decry the first DHS memo as part of a Democratic conspiracy to marginalize right wingers. But it became clear that DHS's broad descriptions of extremists were symptomatic of an ongoing agency problem that crossed ideological lines."

The lexicon states its purpose is to provide "definitions for key terms and phrases that often appear in DHS analysis that addresses the nature and scope of the threat that domestic, non-Islamic extremism poses to the United States."

Apparently, the DHS analyzes the "threat" level of Internet news websites like WorldNetDaily, for the lexicon defines "alternative media" as "a term used to describe various information sources that provide a forum for interpretations of events and issues that differ radically from those presented in mass media products and outlets."

The term "black power," widely used in a variety of contexts, also merits a definition in the lexicon: "A term used by black separatists to describe their pride in and the perceived superiority of the black race."

The DHS memo also includes precursors to the ill-fated "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment" report, which prompted outrage from legislators and a campaign calling for the resignation of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano.

For example, the lexicon contains virtually the same broad-stroke language the right-wing extremism report used.

"Rightwing extremism," the lexicon defines as those "who can be broadly divided into those who are primarily hate-oriented, and those who are mainly antigovernment and reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. This term also may refer to rightwing extremist movements that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

The lexicon further points to those who oppose driver's licenses for illegal immigrants.

"Anti-immigration extremism," the lexicon defines as "a movement of groups or individuals who are vehemently opposed to illegal immigration, particularly along the U.S. southwest border with Mexico, and who have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism to advance their extremist goals. They are highly critical of the U.S. Government's response to illegal immigration and oppose government programs that are designed to extend 'rights' to illegal aliens, such as issuing driver's licenses or national identification cards and providing in-state tuition, medical benefits, or public education."

Unlike the right-wing extremism report, however, the lexicon includes definitions of extremism across a broad spectrum of issues: anarchy, animal rights extremism, black nationalism, Cuban independence, environmentalism, Jewish extremism, Mexican separatism, right-wing militias, white supremacists, the anti-war movement and more.

Among the more curious groups the DHS appears to be monitoring is the "racial Nordic mysticism" group, defined as "an ideology adopted by many white supremacist prison gangs who embrace a Norse mythological religion, such as Odinism or Asatru."

Among the more comical definitions is the description given of what "racist skinheads" wear, enabling law officers, it appears, to identify skinheads by their preferred brand of footwear:

"Dress may include a shaved head or very short hair," the report states, "jeans, thin suspenders, combat boots or Doc Martens, a bomber jacket, and tattoos of Nazi-like emblems."

Sarlin, who first publicized the memo, reports that a spokesperson for DHS told him the memo was recalled "within minutes" of being issued but declined to offer any details on the reasons for its withdrawal.
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« Reply #208 on: May 04, 2009, 02:47:45 AM »

UM?

I think that I can guess why it was withdrawn:  someone with more common sense than a loon looked at it and asked which insane asylum it came from.

This makes them the laughing stock of all real law enforcement agencies around the world. It appears that everyone is dangerous except far-left loonies who are one step away from being committed. Who knows, maybe a teleprompter got loose, wrote it, and they discovered the rogue teleprompter at the last minute. Regardless, there is a lengthy list of boneheaded actions that indicate we would be better off in hiring the Cub Scouts for Homeland Security. Things are so BAD that it's embarrassing. The only good thing is that the bad guys won't be able to attack until they stop laughing. Until then, Homeland Security will stay away from Islamic militant compounds on our soil and concentrate on law abiding citizens with completely clean records. As an analogy, they will be turning the terrorists at Gitmo loose on the public and watching grandmothers who participated in tea parties.

If this wasn't so SERIOUS and SAD, it would be great material for a comedian. Ooooophs! - Excuse me! - They are comedians - they just don't know it!
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