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« on: August 21, 2007, 11:05:46 AM »

Want the next big energy source? Dig in the weeds

Plants that can be grown for fuel are often touted as a vast, clean energy source - except by those who say precious food is being diverted into gas tanks, and that biofuel crops are using up dwindling land and water.

Enter willow, hemp and switchgrass.

Scientists say research into a new generation of biofuel sources could yield cheap energy supplies that do not compete with food crops -- or with nature -- for water or space.

The day may be decades away, but some say plants might even cover a large share of the world's energy needs.

Goran Berndes, a researcher at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden, says the list of possible plants goes far beyond the established crops such as corn, maize and sugar cane that are already grown commercially for fuel uses.

"Bioenergy is much broader," he said. "Most people working in bioenergy expect other crops to dominate in the long term."

One promising energy source is the willow, a northern plant used to make baskets and sport bats. Others include hemp, known for its rope-making and mind-altering qualities, and switchgrass, a reedy plant found in the U.S. Midwest.

A new crop that is being used already is jatropha, a resilient, oil-rich, tropical plant that can be grown on waste land and even introduces nutrients to the soil. Its oil is already used in India to power diesel cars and turbines.

 Jatropha has grabbed headlines because it avoids the biggest controversy surrounding biofuels: the ethical debate over whether agricultural resources should be used for energy when millions across the planet go hungry.

This can mean using up water as well as land -- a reminder that biofuel crops themselves can carry severe risks for the environment, especially if hitherto unfarmed land is converted to agriculture with large amounts of fertiliser and irrigation.

The International Water Management Institute, which led a five-year global study on water involving more than 700 researchers, found that if China and India pursued their current biofuel plans, they faced water scarcity by 2030.

LET IT RAIN

Berndes has built models that try to peer even further into the future, assuming that crop yields will continue to climb as agricultural science advances, and new biofuel crops will become more productive.

One scenario -- highly optimistic, perhaps, but theoretically possible -- suggests that an area of agricultural land twice the size of Mexico could become surplus to current requirements by 2050.

If this were all used to grow biofuels, it could yield 400 exajoules of energy -- almost the equivalent of the world's current energy consumption.

Of course, such scenarios are hugely complex, and it is not merely a question of finding enough land.

 The assumed higher crop yields are likely to tax the environment harder by requiring more irrigation and fertilisation. "If you need less land, you cannot be sure you need less water," Berndes says.

Hence the need to ensure that the new generation of biofuel crops are not also hungry for scarce resources -- for instance getting their water from rain rather than irrigation.

And they will need to be commercially attractive.

"You have many different ways of producing transportation fuels from these new biomass sources that are not there yet commercially," he said.

BUSINESS BUDDIES

At least one business sector is prepared to lobby for biofuel crops that do not compete so hard with food production.

Nestle (NESN.VX: Quote, Profile, Research), the world's largest food company, says the subsidies being applied to current biofuel crops are distorting the market and pushing up the prices of food crops, and that second-generation biofuels could be an answer.

"If it works, and if it can be made to work economically, that certainly would be -- both from an environmental and from an economic point of view -- a much better solution than this strong focus on the current first-generation food crop biofuels," said Claus Conzelmann, Nestle vice president for safety, health and the environment.

But there are those who say the entire debate is misguided.

 Vaclav Smil, a professor at the University of Manitoba, says that with relatively straightforward changes to the cars we drive, we could do without extra energy altogether.

"I'm astonished that people even think about biofuel," Smil told a conference in Stockholm. "Do we need more biofuels to feed our cars? We don't."
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 11:08:09 AM »

Brother Tom, it appears you're not far off with that fungus and mold growth.  Wink

Islandboy, stop pulling those weeds. You're destroying a valuable fuel source.

I think that I'm going to stop cutting and burning the switch grass here and try to locate a market for it.


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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 07:26:41 PM »

Brother Tom, it appears you're not far off with that fungus and mold growth.  Wink

Islandboy, stop pulling those weeds. You're destroying a valuable fuel source.

I think that I'm going to stop cutting and burning the switch grass here and try to locate a market for it.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




 Grin Grin Grin  Stop weeding all of you!!  Smiley

It's about time that alternative fuels are made.  We shouldn't have to depend on Middle Eastern oil.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 07:30:42 PM »

If the environmentalists would back off of things we wouldn't have to depend on foreign oil now. The biggest oil supply in the world is on American land that the tree huggers won't allow to be drilled.

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 07:47:54 PM »

And I have all that pasture grass, growing in my pasture. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 08:42:28 PM »

And I have all that pasture grass, growing in my pasture. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Weed Power.

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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2007, 08:44:45 PM »


Weed Power.


No Grass Power.........................
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 09:37:04 PM »

Read the OP. It's weeds that will be the source of energy. Weed Power!

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 01:03:17 AM »

Read the OP. It's weeds that will be the source of energy. Weed Power!





Flower Power..........

that should take you back to the 60's.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 01:05:26 AM »

I think those flowers are a bit wilted now.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 01:10:42 AM »

I think those flowers are a bit wilted now.

 Cheesy Cheesy

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I love your laughing dog!!  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2007, 01:51:25 AM »

I love your laughing dog!!  Smiley
Do you remember "Mutty" from wacky racers?  That who the dog is............. Grin
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Do you remember "Mutty" from wacky racers?  That who the dog is............. Grin

No, I don't remember Mutty....where have I been?  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2007, 01:58:23 AM »

No, I don't remember Mutty....where have I been?  Cheesy

remember the Wackey Racers, on Saturday morning cartoons?  This was on back in the early 70's, if I remember right.
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