Abortion #1 killer of blacks, says Tennessee pastor

[Soldier4Christ]

Angel,

I'm not trying to make you angry or hurt your feelings, but I'll have to state the truth.

GOD and the Holy Bible are quite clear and blunt on this issue. It isn't our judgment if GOD has already made the judgment and given it to us in HIS WORD.

The RIGHT THING is many times very difficult to do and something we might not want to do. We can ask the simple question: Will GOD accept our excuse for disobeying HIM? The answer is "NO", so it now becomes a matter of praying for forgiveness.

We certainly wouldn't want to encourage others to disobey GOD, especially when there are options to obey HIM. I would be talking about things like adoption. Christians discuss options like this all of the time in an effort to please GOD and end the murder of babies.

The babies do belong to GOD, and they are NOT things or something we can decide life or death for. ONLY GOD does this, and ONLY GOD has this right.

NOW, let's talk about the ultimate TRUTH of GOD and HIS WORD. There are many people who don't like GOD'S WORD because it is GOD telling us what to do in all parts of our lives. GOD is our CREATOR, and HE has every right to tell us what to do in all parts of our lives. When we disobey HIM, it isn't a matter of bargaining or excuses, rather a matter of praying for forgiveness. There is no irony that this is really the only way to obtain peace in our hearts. We can know that GOD has forgiven us and give thanks that HE has.

In the case of abortion, Christians can and should share the truth. Christians can also share options to obey GOD. We should know that many thousands of couples can't have children, and many of them have prayed for years that GOD would make it possible for them to adopt a child. Many of these couples would make wonderful parents, and that would make the couple and GOD happy.

Love In Christ,
Tom

 

Amen!

[angel]

Amen!

please dont think that i am being nasty as i dont mean this like that, but when you are a man and looking at issues like this it is only natural that you cannt understand the trauma that a woman goes through  when making the choices.

while i agree that life is precious and a gift as well for many. for some it can be the most traumatic things a woman can go through. in fact carrying the child and then giving it  up for adoption can be worse than a abortion for the mother to be, even tho i know of many that would to make wonderful parents but are unable to have children themselves sadly.

i spent months asking for forgivenes when i had my abortion even tho i wasnt really given any choice in the matter, even now it hurts still and this is a few years on.

 guys while i respect your opinions and your comments i am sorry but i have to say that you are looking at it as well from a mans perspective as well as a scriptual perspective. 

while i would never encourage anyone to go against the scriptures i do believe that we all have choices to make in life and this for me was the hardest thing i ever had to do, and i pray i never go through the heart ache like that again.

i agree that many dont like to listen to gods word but he himeslf gave us the choice to listen to him or not to, and it is up to us what we do in that matter!
 
me i would love to have another child but after my abortion i found out that it was my last chance to have children, so every day i ask myself if i made the right choice to terminate and put my 2 sons, now aged 6 and 8, first!  personally i dont know and i will never know and yes i am heart broken each time i hear another family member being excited as i wish i was to, but that is what my lord has chosen for me and i accept that! some times i wonder if it was a punishment from him for past wrongs.  i know that one day i will find out and who knows perhaps a miracle will happen and my prayers will be answered but only my lord knows the answer to that.   

i genuinly dont mean to sound nasty on this matter and if it comes across like that then i apologise but it is a subject that is close to my heart

love to you

jo

didnt realise you had such an issue with a word used so have amended it, apologies but it was done in the moment and typed as i thought at the time

[Soldier4Christ]

As has been said before this is not a man's point of view it is God's. There are several women that have posted in this thread that have disagreed with you also and it is based simply on God's word.

i agree that many dont like to listen to gods word but he himself gave us the choice to listen to him or not to, and it is up to us what we do in that matter!

While it is true that He gives us the choice to listen to Him or not we also must answer for the decisions that we make especially when we knowingly make the wrong choice and abortion is in fact a wrong choice and it is not a matter of being from a womans point of view or a mans. It is God's point of view that matters. This is the plain blunt truth.

Yes, it is hard for a woman to have a child under any circumstance, harder in some than others. It is even harder on a woman to have an abortion, physically, mentally and spiritually. There are many women that will attest to that.

Yes, God will forgive us of our sins as long as we go to Him and are truthfully sorry for those sins. Thank God He is a merciful God.

This is a subject that should be close to the heart of all Christians and to put it quite bluntly it should be one that Christians stand up against not giving excuses for it. It is God's word.

[Brother Jerry]

Amen PR.


Angel,

While I do not judge you.  One thing that I wish to point out for other readers.  You mention that it is difficult for many women and such to go through. 
While I would agree that for someone who has roots in a Christian background that is true.  However since Roe v Wade there have been about 40,000,000 abortions.
Last year there were 98,000 rapes (and that is a .8% increase from last year). 
Roe v Wade was in 1973.  So since RvW there has been 1.176 million abortions per year. 
I do not have the numbers but I am also sure that life threatening issues to mother or child do not account for even half of those numbers.  So based on that a majority of abortions can be seen as the "easy" choice of the parent(s) deciding they do not want that baby.

Again I am not saying that this is you or anything of that nature.  I am sure we disagree on the actual issue...however I did want to point out that abortion has become an "easy" out for many women.

[Soldier4Christ]

Amen, brother and those figures that you gave only pertain to those in the U. S. and do not include abortions in other countries which are also on the incline.

angel,

Again I want to reiterate that no one here is pointing a finger at you and saying "You have sinned" we are simply pointing to the Bible and saying that it tells us all very clearly that God says abortion is sin.

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

I simply want to repeat or restate several things for clarity:

This is NOT a man versus woman issue.

This is NOT an issue for men or women to decide.

This is an issue already decided by ALMIGHTY GOD, and that's the end of the story.

It really doesn't matter what individual opinions are on this matter, and the opinion coming from a man or a woman is a moot issue. GOD could care less what the opinions are of HIS Creation.

There is NO argument with GOD, and GOD could care less about Roe vs. Wade. It means nothing to GOD except disobedience.
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My Opinion:

NOW, I'll state a personal opinion, and I think that I could easily find hard evidence to back up my opinion. Only a tiny percentage of abortions involve the potential death of the mother if the baby is born. Almost all abortions are to avoid responsibility, avoid embarrassment for a baby born out of wedlock, OR FOR SIMPLE CONVENIENCE PURPOSES! Abortion is mass murder, and I think that the women, nurses, and doctors participating in abortion should be tried for murder.

My Opinion:

There probably are a percentage of women getting abortions who don't understand what they are doing when they decide to get an abortion. Further, the current system doesn't allow them to be informed or educated about what they are really doing. Most generally, our public doesn't know or understand the procedures and issues involved, regardless of whether they believe in GOD or not. There are many secrets that the abortionists, feminists, and ultra-liberals don't want the public to know about abortions. These secrets need to be revealed in graphic detail. Those wanting an abortion, legal or illegal, should be forced to watch a video or actual abortion to understand what they are considering. However, this information is withheld from them because they might change their mind!! Tell them everything and show them everything!! Don't let them wonder about what they are wanting to do - let them KNOW about what they are wanting to do!!

Show the public the graphic proof that unborn babies feel horrible pain when they are aborted!!

Show the public what's done with the bodies of these aborted babies!!

Show the public close-up actual abortions and let everyone know what abortion really is!!

Whatever is done with the aborted baby, make the mother be involved in the disposal!!

In conclusion, many people who make tons of money from abortions don't want the general public to know ALL the TRUTH about abortions!! If the general public was TOTALLY informed, that would be a very dangerous situation for the abortion industry!! With COMPLETE EDUCATION, one could take GOD and the Holy Bible out of the issues, and the vast majority of the public would demand that abortions end!! It boils down to being torture, inhumane, barbaric murder!!
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Please let me make one more statement - my opinion means absolutely NOTHING! GOD has already spoken on this issue.