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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2009, 11:30:56 PM »

Some say the penticostals are growing by leaps and bounds! I've read that in the last five years their numbers have increased by 30%!
   I believe that any two people can invoke the power of the Holy Spirit.
   I believe that if any 2 people ask God for anything that is good in the name of Jesus Christ it will be granted even though the people who asking for the
   miracles are not necessarily going to heaven.
   I was just wondering if any one else shared this belief?

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WELCOME!


First, you've already been given excellent answers by Pastor Roger. Second, No, I do not believe this. I think that the vanity of man - instead of the Glory of God - is responsible for most thinking like this.

God does as He pleases in Heaven and on earth, and He still answers prayer according to His Perfect Will. All Glory must go to God and none to men. It's all very simple. Lastly, it's very sad that some people must have signs and wonders to have faith in God. Such is the nature of men that they will accept counterfeit signs and wonders, so what many are seeing and doing is not of God. Along the way, the vanity and money of man is the key - not God.

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2 Corinthians 3:4-5 ASV  4  And such confidence have we through Christ to God-ward: 5 not that we are sufficient of ourselves, to account anything as from ourselves; but our sufficiency is from God;
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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2009, 02:36:03 AM »

Mt. 18:19 "Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask it will be done for them by the Father in heaven.
                for where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

                    In other words all we have to do is agree with another person that what we are asking for is good and in accordance
with what Jesus taught us.
        It doesn't really matter if we"re going to heaven or hell.
       And it goes without saying the Father's name will still be glorified.

               
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2009, 03:28:47 AM »

Mt. 18:19 "Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask it will be done for them by the Father in heaven.
                for where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

                    In other words all we have to do is agree with another person that what we are asking for is good and in accordance
with what Jesus taught us.
        It doesn't really matter if we"re going to heaven or hell.
       And it goes without saying the Father's name will still be glorified.

               

Wrong! One needs a basic start in trying to understand the Bible, knowing who the speaker is, knowing the intended audience, understanding the historical setting, understanding the purpose, etc., etc., etc. Taking a Bible Verse out of context and trying to form a doctrine results in a gross misunderstanding of the Holy Bible, especially if one forming that doctrine is lost or is a baby Christian with little or no knowledge of the Holy Bible. These false doctrines also hurt the Lord's Work because they aren't true and don't work. As an example, you aren't an Apostle directly appointed by God, and God has NOT given you any supernatural powers. The office of Apostle was closed by God almost 2,000 years ago, and that's the time that you're trying to talk about.

The Holy Bible also talks about people being able to drink poison and bit by deadly snakes without being hurt. DON'T TRY IT! You aren't one of the people God was talking to, nor will you be.

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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2009, 09:38:48 AM »

Mt. 18:19 "Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask it will be done for them by the Father in heaven.
                for where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

                    In other words all we have to do is agree with another person that what we are asking for is good and in accordance
with what Jesus taught us.
        It doesn't really matter if we"re going to heaven or hell.
       And it goes without saying the Father's name will still be glorified.


Hello again Jocko,

One verse out of many that is about the care of the church. Jesus is specifically teaching the Apostles about the organizing and establishing of the church and not about all prayers of everyone. As Brother Tom said, It is a dangerous thing to take just one verse and attempt to build a full doctrine on it when there is no foundation for that doctrine to start with.

I gave you many verses that state that there are times that God Himself said that He will turn a deaf ear toward the unrighteous and will not hear their prayer in those circumstances yet you are still stuck on believing differently. This verse is erroneously used and consistently so by the name it and claim it followers. The exact same people that teach that man has a free will, yet in this teaching it has God not having the free will to do as He pleases rather being forced to do as man wants Him to do.

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