When a crying baby is not 'alive'

[Mr. 5020]

Link to Article

Excerpt from article
A baby's cry is not necessarily proof of life.

So concluded Illinois Circuit Court Judge Karen Thompson last November when she acquitted a mother previously convicted in two prior trials of murdering her newborn daughter.

Does this give you a nasty feeling in your gut?  How much longer can pro-choicers push back the "being alive" line?

[nChrist]

Oklahoma Howdy to Mr. 5020,

Thanks for the link to the article. I think that all pro-choicers should read this article and others. It is sickening how some folks think about the gift of life from Almighty God. That life is given by God and that life belongs to God.

In Christ,
Tom

[Left Coast]

So sad

[Psalm 119]

Mr. 5020,

Thank you for posting this link. Yes, we no longer on the "slippery slope" we are falling off the cliff.

I noticed the poll results indicate that 100% believe that life begins at conception.

My question is "Why do Christians who believe that life begins at conception continue to use abortifacients, such as the pill and the I.U.D.? ( which destroy's life)

Do we practice what we preach?

Psalm 119

[Symphony]

   

[Mr. 5020]

Mr. 5020,

Thank you for posting this link. Yes, we no longer on the "slippery slope" we are falling off the cliff.

I noticed the poll results indicate that 100% believe that life begins at conception.

My question is "Why do Christians who believe that life begins at conception continue to use abortifacients, such as the pill and the I.U.D.? ( which destroy's life)

Do we practice what we preach?

Psalm 119

Not usually.

[Heidi]

Only on a Christian Forum will the results of this poll be 100%. It just goes to show how deceived we can all be about the truth without God. I write screenplays and have been seriously considering writing one for "Lifetime TV" entitled, "A Living Miracle" about the abortion issue. But I'm not sure the country is ready for it yet which means it has to be produced by a Christian Production Company. Unfortunately (and fortunately) they're swamped by scripts at the moment, but i would really like ot appeal to the non - Christians. I am currently writing an article about stay-at-home-moms in a local women's magazine, but even the editor of that one was reluctant to stir up the controversy. But, as Christ prophesied, His beliefs will not be popular.

[twobombs]

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world , that we should be holy and without blame before him in love

[Saved_4ever]

Umm IUD's are certainly not very popular.  In fact most people I have talked to don't even know what one is.  

Secondly how in the world is "the pill" destroying life?  Unless of course you are talking about some other pill.

[ebia]

Secondly how in the world is "the pill" destroying life?  Unless of course you are talking about some other pill.

The contraceptive pill is not 100% effective at preventing conception.  Most (if not all) forms, therefore, are also designed to prevent implantation of the embryo in the womb if and when conception does occur.

[shugotenshi]

So, basically if the baby was still attached, it's not alive?  Wow...what has this world come to.  Many prayers my brothers and sisters...many prayers...

[Allinall]

I actually have to agree with ebia on this one.  The pill works to avoid impregnation, not pregnancy, with noteable if not sickening acceptions.  To attribute all pills as being abortive is ignorant.  They simple do not allow fertilization.  If there is no fertilization, the female's body aborts the eggs according to a regular cycle.  It is abortion when God grants like and man takes that life.

And pill or no pill, I've known too many people who found that they can't stop God from giving life.  I tend to think that He does so in order that we don't begin to think we've got the "life" thing under our control.  

[Psalm 119]

Dear Saved 4-Ever and Allinall,

The pill does cause early abortions by changing the lining of the edometrium (uterus) so that a "fertilized egg" (conception) will not adhere. The pill has two properties....prevention of pregnancy, and when that fails prevention of implantation. The patient sheet that comes with the pill is very clear on this. It's usually defined as "breakthrough". Rather than me babbling on; please take the time to educate yourselves by clicking on to this site. There are 18 articles regarding this matter. Some written by Dr's and Pharmacists.

http://home.swbell.net/birons/birthctl.htm

Psalm 119

[Heidi]

I have a question. Would God allow the people He has chosen from the beginning to be aborted?

[Psalm 119]

I have a question. Would God allow the people He has chosen from the beginning to be aborted?

Heidi,

Jeremiah 1:4 states that God knew Jeremiah (as He does all of us) before He formed him in the womb.

I believe with all my heart that God knows each person before He formed them. He has decided long ago how many children He would give us. Can man thwart God's plans?; no. Will God allow it; yes.

For example God may want a certain Christian couple to have 3 children; another couple 5, another 10. If that couple goes out of God's design and they are sterilized, or abort their children through abortifacients, then they have stepped out of bounds.

Children are a gift from God....blessed is the man who has his quiver full of them.

It really comes down to trusting and obeying the Lord. He will not give us more than we can bear.

Love,
Psalm 119