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« on: February 08, 2007, 11:11:51 AM »

ACLU: Remove Commandments from Florida courthouse
'They don't seem to have a plaintiff. That's a big hurdle for them to get past'

CROSS CITY, Fla. — The American Civil Liberties Union is suing to force rural Dixie County to remove a hulking Ten Commandments monument from the courthouse steps.

The 5-foot-tall, 6-ton black granite monument stands in front of a building for the courthouse, the elections supervisor office, the tax collector and other public offices. The lawsuit filed in federal court Tuesday said the monument heaps on its religious message with the inscription "Love God and Keep His Commandments" in large capital letters at its base.

The Dixie County Commission approved the monument, donated by a local businessman, in January 2006 and it was placed on the courthouse steps in November. The county is on the Gulf Coast north of Tampa.

"Dixie County is, in effect, thumbing its nose at the Constitution by putting up this display," ACLU attorney Glenn Katon said.

Dixie County commissioners and the county attorney did not return several phone and e-mail messages left by the Associated Press on Wednesday.

"It's a great thing," Commission Chairman James Valentine told the St. Petersburg Times last month. "I believe in the Ten Commandments. I stand for it. It didn't cost the county a dime."

The lawsuit says the monument violates the First and 14th Amendments because it is not part of a historical display and because the uniquely Christian message of the Ten Commandments on a government building could intimidate people with different religious beliefs.

The suit was filed on behalf of the organization, not an individual plaintiff. The ACLU said it has "half a dozen" members in the north Florida county, but declined to name any residents who might testify in the case.

"This lawsuit is likely to be very unpopular lawsuit within Dixie County," said Florida ACLU Executive Director Howard Simon.

An initial effort to challenge the legality of the Dixie County monument fizzled because activists couldn't find a resident willing to sue.

The lack of an individual plaintiff may doom the case, said Brian Rooney, a spokesman for the nonprofit Thomas More Law Center, which has offered free legal aid to the Dixie County Commission. Commissioners had not yet asked the center to represent them Wednesday afternoon.

"It's interesting that they don't seem to have a plaintiff," Rooney said. "Once we get involved in the meat of the case, that's the first thing we're going to find out. Is there a case or controversy at all? That's a big hurdle for them to get past."

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that religious displays are not inherently unconstitutional and must be considered on a case-by-case basis. Last year, the high court allowed the Ten Commandments to be displayed outside the Texas state Capitol but not inside two Kentucky courthouses, where the justices said the displays promoted a religious message.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2007, 11:14:35 AM »

The ACLU is really desperate taking on cases against Christianity without a plaintiff. It is just one more feather in their cap proving their ultimate goal of whiping out any public display of Christianity, attempting to shove us into oblivion.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 10:00:23 AM »

Yep.  Once more into the breach.  You sometimes wonder what will it take to topple the ACLU?  When are they going to step on the wrong person's toes?  If Bill Gates were a loudly professed Christian and they said that the windows logo looked to much like a cross....would that be enough?  Gates could bury them in legalities...his team is good at that.   Has enough money to keep it going for a long long time.  sigh.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 07:41:12 AM »

I heard a rumor said "ACLU goal is to bring communist" Most of us know what happen to a follower living under communist country.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 09:20:19 AM »

That's not a rumor, Al.

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