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To note the date mentioned here of 1913. From the period 1895 until just before 1930 there was extreme cold world wide with scientists warning of an impending ice age. In the 1930's is when there was a reversal of increased heat and sunspot activity that aided in the "Dust Bowl" experienced in the U.S.
For further information on cyclical heat cold patterns see The 2009 Old Farmer's Almanac.
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Global Warming alarmist Lewis Gordon Pugh attempts to kayak to the North Pole in order to prove that the Arctic area has opened up and is passable. He reached 81N and got stuck in the ice and the sea was frozen solid past that point. Not being able to go any further he had to give up his quest. 81N is the same place that the ice shelf reached in 1980 showing that the sea is not more open than it was then.
I love it when people think that they know more than God and then get proven wrong.
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Brothers and Sisters,
The Bible says that there will be global warming in the future, but it isn't listed as just warming. Everything will be burned completely up, and there will be a new heaven and earth.
What man needs to know is quite SIMPLE and already detailed in the HOLY BIBLE! The BIBLE has one overwhelming PRINCIPLE that man has so far REJECTED:
ALMIGHTY GOD THE CREATOR IS IN CHARGE!
HE WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED, PRAISED, AND WORSHIPED by those who LOVE HIM. Those who ignore, mock, reject, and disobey HIM will spend eternity being punished in the fires of HELL.
NOW - let's go back to an overwhelming TRUTH - GOD is in CHARGE.
GOD DISPENSES ALL!
At the present, HE causes the rain to fall on the good and the evil. GOD does as HE pleases in Heaven and on earth.
GOD has told HIS Children that belong to CHRIST what eternity will be like. The descriptions are brief and wonderful beyond human imagination. GOD has told evil mankind what their eternity will be like - the horror of eternal punishment in fire! NOW - let's go back to the overwhelming TRUTH again - GOD is in CHARGE! GOD had and has every right to demand what will be done and prescribe punishment for those who refuse and reject HIM. The only unpardonable sin is rejection of JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOUR!
ONE MUST ACCEPT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS VERY GOD! IT'S NOT SMART TO DENY, REJECT, MOCK, AND IGNORE THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE!
GOD will be given all GLORY and HONOR - and that's the way things should have been since the beginning.
HE WILL NOT BE DENIED THAT HE IS THE LORD OF LORDS, THE KING OF KINGS, THE GREAT I AM, THE CREATOR!
Evil mankind will learn this lesson the hard way soon. Just a tiny bit of common sense from mankind should give more than a hint that the MASTER AND CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE WILL NOT BE DENIED! We are living in a day and age that appears to be near the end of GOD'S Patience with mankind.
EVERY WORD OF PROPHECY AND EVERY PROMISE OF GOD WILL BE FULFILLED PERFECTLY!
Forget about fearing Al Gore and so-called global warming! What you really need to do is:
ACCEPT CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOUR AND LOVE GOD! GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING ELSE!
After all, GOD is the CREATOR and IN CHARGE!
GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN CHARGE!
Love In Christ,
Tom
Favorite Bible Quotes 377 - Psalms 118:24 This is the day which the
LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on September 08, 2008, 12:57:39 AM
I love it when people think that they know more than God and then get proven wrong.
Yep. Gotta love it!
I was reading an editorial yesterday in the Seattle Times by a professor at Seattle Pacific U. He was berating Palin for all kinds of things including her non action and non belief in Global Warming.
Sorry Prof. That just makes me like her all the more!!
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Global Warming’s Kaput; 2008 Coolest in 5 Years
September 8, 2008 1:10 PM
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The global warming theory is going into the freezer, some climate experts say.
The first half of this year was the coolest in at least five years, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). And the global warming that has taken place during the past 30 years is over, says geologist Don J. Easterbrook, a professor emeritus at Western Washington University.
Easterbrook, who has written eight books and 150 journal publications, predicts that temperatures will cool between 2065 and 2100 and that global temperatures at the end of the century will be less than 1 degree cooler than now. This is in contrast to other theories saying that temperatures will warm by as much as 10 degrees by 2100.
In March, Easterbrook said he was putting his “reputation on the line” by predicting global cooling.
“The average of the four main temperature measuring methods is slightly cooler since 2002 [except for a brief el Niño interruption] and record breaking cooling this winter. The argument that this is too short a time period to be meaningful would be valid were it not for the fact that this cooling exactly fits the pattern of timing of warm/cool cycles over the past 400 years,” Easterbrook wrote on March 1.
Added to his assertion was the WMO revelation that the first half of 2008 was the coolest for at least five years and that the rest of the year almost will certainly be cooler than recent years, although temperatures remain above the historical average.
The global mean temperature to the end of July was 0.28 degrees Celsius above the 1961-1990 average, Britain’s Met Office Hadley Centre for climate change research said Wednesday. That would make the first half of 2008 the coolest since 2000. Chillier weather this year is partly because of a global weather pattern called La Nina that follows a periodic warming effect called El Nino.
"We can expect with high probability this year will be cooler than the previous five years," said Omar Baddour, responsible for climate data and monitoring at the WMO. "Definitely the La Nina should have had an effect, how much we cannot say. Up to July 2008, this year has been cooler than the previous five years at least. It still looks like it's warmer than average."
Also snowing on the global warming enthusiasts is the highly respected “Farmer's Almanac,” which predicts that the coming winter will be “catastrophic” because of bitter cold weather.
People worried about the high cost of keeping warm this winter will draw little comfort from the prediction of below-average temperatures for most of the U.S., says the 192-year-old publication, famed for its accuracy of 80 percent to 85 percent.
"Numb's the word," the almanac’s 2009 edition says, adding that at least two-thirds of the country can expect colder-than-average temperatures, with only the far West and Southeast in line for near-normal readings.
"This is going to be catastrophic for millions of people," the almanac's editor, Peter Geiger, told The Associated Press, noting that the frigid forecast combined with high prices for heating fuel is sure to compound problems households will face in keeping warm.
The almanac predicts above-normal snowfall for the Great Lakes and Midwest, especially during January and February, and above-normal precipitation for the Southwest in December and for the Southeast in January and February, the almanac states. Also, the Northeast and the mid-Atlantic regions can expect an unusually wet or snowy February.
Ivy League geologist Robert Giegengack, a professor of Earth and environmental science at the University of Pennsylvania, told phillymag.com that the history over the last 1 billion years on the planet reveals "only about 5 percent of that time has been characterized by conditions on Earth that were so cold that the poles could support masses of permanent ice."
Giegengack also noted that, "for most of Earth's history, the globe has been warmer than it has been for the last 200 years. It has rarely been cooler."
Further ammunition for global warming skeptics came from south of the border, where a Mexican scientist warns that Earth will enter a “little ice age” for up to 80 years because of a decrease in solar activity.
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics at Mexico’s National Autonomous University, predicts that the ice period will begin in about 10 years.
Predictions of a gradual increase in temperatures called global warming are erroneous, Velasco Herrera told a conference at the Centre for Applied Sciences and Technological Development regarding predictions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
The IPCC models and forecasts are wrong because they are based only on “mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity," he said.
The phenomenon of climate change should include other kinds of factors, both internal, such as volcanoes and human activity, and external, such as solar activity, he said.
"In this century, glaciers are growing," as seen on the Perito Moreno mountain in the Andes; on Mount Logan, the highest mountain in Canada; and on Franz-Josef Glacier, New Zealand, Velasco Herrera said.
Satellite data indicate that a period of global cooling may have begun in 2005, he said.
Global Warming’s Kaput; 2008 Coolest in 5 Years
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Instead of regularly using "global warming" or "global cooling" the buzzword has been switching to "climate change". If the topic is anamorphic, they cannot be pinned down and can use the exact same data for a different argument ad nauseum, and the agenda rolls on.
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Quote from: DreamWeaver on September 10, 2008, 08:34:10 AM
Instead of regularly using "global warming" or "global cooling" the buzzword has been switching to "climate change". If the topic is anamorphic, they cannot be pinned down and can use the exact same data for a different argument ad nauseum, and the agenda rolls on.
All that Al Gore and his ilk can do now is attempt to save face (if they have any face left).
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Cleared: Jury decides that threat of global warming justifies breaking the law
The threat of global warming is so great that campaigners were justified in causing more than £35,000 worth of damage to a coal-fired power station, a jury decided yesterday. In a verdict that will have shocked ministers and energy companies the jury at Maidstone Crown Court cleared six Greenpeace activists of criminal damage.
Jurors accepted defence arguments that the six had a "lawful excuse" to damage property at Kingsnorth power station in Kent to prevent even greater damage caused by climate change. The defence of "lawful excuse" under the Criminal Damage Act 1971 allows damage to be caused to property to prevent even greater damage – such as breaking down the door of a burning house to tackle a fire.
The not-guilty verdict, delivered after two days and greeted with cheers in the courtroom, raises the stakes for the most pressing issue on Britain's green agenda and could encourage further direct action.
Kingsnorth was the centre for mass protests by climate camp activists last month. Last year, three protesters managed to paint Gordon Brown's name on the plant's chimney. Their handi-work cost £35,000 to remove.
The plan to build a successor to the power station is likely to be the first of a new generation of coal-fired plants. As coal produces more of the carbon emissions causing climate change than any other fuel, campaigners claim that a new station would be a disastrous setback in the battle against global warming, and send out a negative signal to the rest of the world about how serious Britain really is about tackling the climate threat.
But the proposals, from the energy giant E.ON, are firmly backed by the Business Secretary, John Hutton, and the Energy minister, Malcolm Wicks. Some members of the Cabinet are thought to be unhappy about them, including the Foreign Secretary, David Miliband, and the Environment Secretary, Hilary Benn. Mr Brown is likely to have the final say on the matter later this year.
During the eight-day trial, the world's leading climate scientist, Professor James Hansen of Nasa, who had flown from American to give evidence, appealed to the Prime Minister personally to "take a leadership role" in cancelling the plan and scrapping the idea of a coal-fired future for Britain. Last December he wrote to Mr Brown with a similar appeal. At the trial, he called for an moratorium on all coal-fired power stations, and his hour-long testimony about the gravity of the climate danger, which painted a bleak picture, was listened to intently by the jury of nine women and three men.
Professor Hansen, who first alerted the world to the global warming threat in June 1988 with testimony to a US senate committee in Washington, and who last year said the earth was in "imminent peril" from the warming atmosphere, asserted that emissions of CO2 from Kings-north would damage property through the effects of the climate change they would help to cause.
He was one of several leading public figures who gave evidence for the defence, including Zac Goldsmith, the Conservative parliamentary candidate for Richmond Park and director of the Ecologist magazine, who similarly told the jury that in his opinion, direct action could be justified in the minds of many people if it was intended to prevent larger crimes being committed.
The acquittal was the second time in a decade that the "lawful excuse" defence has been successfully used by Greenpeace activists. In 1999, 28 Greenpeace campaigners led Lord Melchett, who was director at the time, were cleared of criminal damage after trashing an experimental field of GM crops in Norfolk. In each case the damage was not disputed – the point at issue was the motive.
The defendants who scaled the 630ft chimney at Kingsnorth, near Hoo, last year were Huw Williams, 41, from Nottingham; Ben Stewart, 34, from Lyminge, Kent; Kevin Drake, 44, from Westbury, Wiltshire; Will Rose, 29, from London; and Emily Hall, 34, from New Zealand. Tim Hewke, 48, from Ulcombe, Kent, helped organise the protest.
The court heard how, dressed in orange boiler suits and white hard hats bearing the Greenpeace logo, the six-strong group arrived at the site at 6.30am on 8 October. Armed with bags containing abseiling gear, five of them scaled the chimney while Mr Hewke waited below to liaise between the climbers and police.
The climbers had planned to paint "Gordon, bin it" in huge letters on the side of the chimney, but although they succeeded in temporarily shutting the station, they only got as far as painting the word "Gordon" on the chimney before they descended, having been threatened with a High Court injunction. Removing the graffiti cost E.ON £35,000, the court heard.
During the trial the defendants said they had acted lawfully, owing to an honestly held belief that their attempt to stop emissions from Kingsnorth would prevent further damage to properties worldwide caused by global warming. Their aim, they said, was to rein back CO2 emissions and bring urgent pressure to bear on the Government and E.ON to changes policies. They insisted their action had caused the minimum amount of damage necessary to close the plant down and constituted a "proportionate response" to the increasing environmental threat.
Speaking outside court after being cleared yesterday, Mr Stewart said: "This is a huge blow for ministers and their plans for new coal-fired power stations. It wasn't only us in the dock, it was the coal-fired generation as well. After this verdict, the only people left in Britain who think new coal is a good idea are John Hutton and Malcolm Wicks. It's time the Prime Minister stepped in, showed some leadership and embraced the clean energy future for Britain."
He added: "This verdict marks a tipping point for the climate change movement. When a jury of normal people say it is legitimate for a direct action group to shut down a coal-fired power station because of the harm it does to our planet, then where does that leave Government energy policy? We have the clean technologies at hand to power our economy. It's time we turned to them instead of coal."
Ms Hall said: "The jury heard from the most distinguished climate scientist in the world. How could they ignore his warnings and reject his leading scientific arguments?"
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Global warming stupidity running amok!
These jurists need to be given time. If not in prison then at least working to repair the damage done by these criminals. On second thought they need to be kept away from there as they would probably just do more damage anyway, but they should be made to pay for part of the damages done.
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on September 12, 2008, 04:08:28 PM
Global warming stupidity running amok!
These jurists need to be given time. If not in prison then at least working to repair the damage done by these criminals. On second thought they need to be kept away from there as they would probably just do more damage anyway, but they should be made to pay for part of the damages done.
Brother,
I think this is just another sign of the wild and insane times we live in. If one thinks they've heard and seen just about everything, they just need to wait a couple of days.
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This shouldn't be much of a problem for Al Gore - since he claims to have INVENTED THE INTERNET!
YES - global warming has been exposed as the biggest CON GAME in history - but Al's still making money with it. His cohorts in crime haven't given up yet in selling this either. People who don't BELIEVE AL'S CON GAME are viewed as less than intellectual in many circles. YES - it's used as a litmus test for intelligence. If you don't believe Al, you aren't very smart. In the meantime, Al and his co-conspirators are still making BIG MONEY! So, CRIME DOES PAY - at least in Al's case.
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Arctic Sea Ice Melt Season Officially Over; ice up over 9% from last year
We have news from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). They say: The melt is over. And we’ve added 9.4% ice coverage from this time last year. Though it appears NSIDC is attempting to downplay this in their web page announcement today, one can safely say that despite irrational predictions seen earlier this year, we didn’t reach an “ice free north pole” nor a new record low for sea ice extent.
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The Arctic sea ice cover appears to have reached its minimum extent for the year, the second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era. While above the record minimum set on September 16, 2007, this year further reinforces the strong negative trend in summertime ice extent observed over the past thirty years. With the minimum behind us, we will continue to analyze ice conditions as we head into the crucial period of the ice growth season during the months to come.
Despite overall cooler summer temperatures, the 2008 minimum extent is only 390,000 square kilometers (150,000 square miles), or 9.4%, more than the record-setting 2007 minimum. The 2008 minimum extent is 15.0% less than the next-lowest minimum extent set in 2005 and 33.1% less than the average minimum extent from 1979 to 2000.
The spatial pattern of the 2008 minimum extent was different than that of 2007. This year did not have the substantial ice loss in the central Arctic, north of the Chukchi and East Siberian Seas. However, 2008 showed greater loss in the Beaufort, Laptev, and Greenland Seas.
Unlike last year, this year saw the opening of the Northern Sea Route, the passage through the Arctic Ocean along the coast of Siberia. However, while the shallow Amundsen’s Northwest Passage opened in both years, the deeper Parry’s Channel of the Northwest Passage did not quite open in 2008.
A word of caution on calling the minimum
Determining with certainty when the minimum has occurred is difficult until the melt season has decisively ended. For example, in 2005, the time series began to level out in early September, prompting speculation that we had reached the minimum. However, the sea ice contracted later in the season, again reducing sea ice extent and causing a further drop in the absolute minimum.
We mention this now because the natural variability of the climate system has frequently been known to trick human efforts at forecasting the future. It is still possible that ice extent could fall again, slightly, because of either further melting or a contraction in the area of the pack due to the motion of the ice. However, we have now seen five days of gains in extent. Because of the variability of sea ice at this time of year, the National Snow and Ice Data Center determines the minimum using a five-day running mean value.
Ongoing analysis continues
We will continue to post analysis of sea ice conditions throughout the year, with frequency determined by sea ice conditions. Near-real-time images at upper right will continue to be updated every day.
In addition, NSIDC will issue a formal press release at the beginning of October with full analysis of the possible causes behind this year’s low ice conditions, particularly interesting aspects of the melt season, the set-up going into the important winter growth season ahead, and graphics comparing this year to the long-term record. At that time, we will also know what the monthly average September sea ice extent was in 2008—the measure scientists most often rely on for accurate analysis and comparison over the long-term.
Notice that they are basing all this global warming data on record-keeping that began in 1979. There is no records for ice sea extent prior to that. There are Captains logs of various ships that have shown that they were able to get closer than the failed kayak crew did this year and that was long before the man made CO2 of the industrial age.
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