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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2006, 11:55:27 AM »

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God used Job as an example to show Satan that people who follow Him do not get upset and kill in His name; rather they trust Him to handle things.


Something that I want you to think about in regards to this statement. You indicate that we should do nothing and have complete faith in God to take care of us. In regards to this I want to refer to the below scriptures.

Mat 6:25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Mat 6:26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

Do you or someone in your household go out and work for a living or do you sit at home doing nothing, expecting God to provide everything for you? Or do you say "that is different, it isn't the same thing, we have to work to take care of ourselves"?

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2006, 11:57:49 AM »

I’ve been taught that ‘turn the other cheek’ has to do with insults.  In culture at that time in history, a slap was the greatest insult a man could dish out.  I believe Jesus was teaching us to ignore insults (as opposed to allowing actual physical abuse). 
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2006, 01:51:08 PM »

Hello Sam,

I think that it's fine for you to be a pacifist - that's no problem at all, even though you have your Biblical references terribly confused. Regardless, it's still fine for you to be a pacifist - others will take up the duty of protecting you and your family. However, pacifists don't call names, nor do they even hint at calling names, so you will need to stop doing that. You really aren't unique, as many have made the same mistakes with the Holy Bible that you are making. You are grossly misusing portions of Scripture that deal with disputes, insults, civil affairs, payments of debts, violation of bargains and/or contracts, and all sorts of other problems that had nothing to do with defending life and family.

Sam, it's still just fine for you to be a pacifist, but pacifists don't stir trouble, nor do they call people names who disagree with them. The most mighty warriors in human history were Christians, and that includes the present. A large percentage and maybe a majority of our Armed Forces are Christians. A fairly large percentage of police officers are Christians, even the vast majority in many police departments. They don't have a battle or problem with conscience or the Holy Bible at all, but it's fine for you to if you wish. King David, a man after God's own heart, was a mighty warrior, and the same is true for God's children in all ages. You simply need to pay your respects and stay out of their business. You also need to give thanks that men and women of sufficient courage have paid for every freedom you enjoy, including the freedom to worship. Last and greatest, the Second Coming of Christ will be HIM with a terrible swift sword, not a plowshare.

When you pray for God to watch over your family, the answer will probably be men and women of sufficient courage to do the job whether you wish to do the job or not.  AND, many of those men and women will be Christians. Just give thanks, and don't call them names. Sam, it appears that you are spending considerable time with an agenda to name call and criticize those who place their very lives on the line for the good and protection of others. I completely understand your errors with the Holy Bible, and I still respect your opinion and your right to be a pacifist. BUT, I do not respect your criticism and name calling of those who protect you and preserve your freedoms. Biblically, your time would be better spent in thanks and praying for those who put their lives on the line for others.

Sam, it's quite possible that the time will come where you will have a choice of watching your family die or using the backbone that God gave you to defend them. The choice to defend them will NOT be against Biblical teaching, but that decision will be completely up to you. Many of the Christians on this forum did put their lives on the line as a career, and it will NOT be up to you to call them names or disrespect them.


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Psalms 23:4 NASB  Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2006, 11:12:52 PM »

Since my last post I have been reading-up on Islam and the Koran.  I feel I need to recant what I said. I was ignorant. I assume you must all know what I did not: Muslims will kill us all. Period. We must fight them, even fight them first, or there will be none of us left to defeat them. Sure, the next life will sort things out, but we have children that do not deserve to be slaughtered.
I'm going to be away for awhile, praying.  Sorry for any offense I may have given. I meant none.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2006, 12:21:03 AM »

Since my last post I have been reading-up on Islam and the Koran.  I feel I need to recant what I said. I was ignorant. I assume you must all know what I did not: Muslims will kill us all. Period. We must fight them, even fight them first, or there will be none of us left to defeat them. Sure, the next life will sort things out, but we have children that do not deserve to be slaughtered.
I'm going to be away for awhile, praying.  Sorry for any offense I may have given. I meant none.

It's a real Christian's heart that is willing to admit when we are wrong, and apologize like you did Sam.
Please don't feel like you have to leave for any length of time, afterall, this did turn into a positive learning experience for you in the least right?

Some of us here, myself included, have posted things with a bit of an aggressive flavor. It's the people who continue to do this that we worry about Sam, you have shown that you are not one of those. We all make mistakes, and as long as we try our very best to be reasonable, and in line with the Bible, we will do just fine.

I have admitted when I was wrong here a few times, and I have had to apologize a few times as well. The main thing is that I always have my heart tuned into King Jesus, and He guides me to the truth, and He humbles me when I need it.

Looking forward to your next post Sam.

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2006, 01:52:09 AM »

Since my last post I have been reading-up on Islam and the Koran.  I feel I need to recant what I said. I was ignorant. I assume you must all know what I did not: Muslims will kill us all. Period. We must fight them, even fight them first, or there will be none of us left to defeat them. Sure, the next life will sort things out, but we have children that do not deserve to be slaughtered.
I'm going to be away for awhile, praying.  Sorry for any offense I may have given. I meant none.
Sam, if you want more reading, you can find it right here. Peaceful religion isn't spelled Islam

I myself have been wrong, just ask BRNZ.
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2006, 11:11:53 AM »

Hi Sam,

I agree with the others. No need to leave for any length of time. We are all capable of making mistakes and it does take a strong person to admit when they have been wrong.

Yes, our children are in danger. When we face such evil as we do in this world we must do what we can to stand up against it. As for being the first to fight them that decision is not here as they have already made the first move on that a very long time ago. The first thing that we must do is as you just said we must turn to prayer about this matter.

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