'We're on the eve of World War III'

[Soldier4Christ]

Ex-Mossad chief urges West to unite, warns of Muslims imposing ideology


JERUSALEM – Global civilization is on the verge of "World War III," a massive conflict in which the Islamic world will attempt to impose its ideology on Western nations, according to Meir Amit, a former director of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency.

Amit, one of the most esteemed figures in the international defense establishment, warned Islamic nations and global Islamist groups will continue launching "all kinds of attacks" against Western states. He urged the international community to immediately unite and coordinate a strategy to fight against the "Islamic war."

"We are on the eve of war with the Islamic world, which will wage a war and all kinds of actions and attacks against the Western world. We already noticed the terrorists in the world hit Spain, England, France. I call it World War III. You must look at it from this angle and treat it wider, not as a problem of terrorism here and there," said Amit, speaking during an exclusive interview with WND's Aaron Klein and ABC Radio's John Batchelor broadcast on Batchelor's national program, for which Klein serves as a co-host. (Listen to the Amit interview.)

Amit served as Mossad chief from 1963 to 1968. He directed some of the most notorious Mossad operations during that time and pioneered many of the tactics currently used by intelligence agencies worldwide. The subject of multiple books and movies, Amit is routinely described as a "living legend." Now in his mid-80s, Amit serves as chairman of Israel's Center for Special Studies.

The former intelligence chief referenced recent terror attacks against Israel, Europe and the United States; Iran's alleged nuclear ambitions; the insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan; and worldwide Muslim riots.

"It looks to me like it is a kind of coordinated or contemplated problem to somehow impose the Islamic idea all over the world," Amit said.

Israel is routinely attacked by Palestinian terror groups. Since December 2000, 993 Israelis have been killed. Spain in March 2004 was struck by a series of coordinated bombings on its commuter train system, killing 192 people. London was rocked last July by bombings on its transportation system. France has been the scene of violent Muslim riots and attacks. And on Sept. 11, 2001, 2,986 people were killed when the U.S. was hit with coordinated terror attacks.

Violent Muslim riots erupted last month in the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon after cartoon images of Muhammad were printed in a Danish newspaper. The riots spread across the Middle East and throughout Europe.

At least 40 people were killed yesterday in a blast north of Mosul in Iraq. Iran and Syria have been accused of aiding the insurgency there and in Afghanistan against U.S. and European troops.

Amit urged Western nations to "unite and work together. Unfortunately, the world is not uniting. China and Russia are problems. This should be taken into consideration."

Both China and Russia have been aiding Iran's nuclear program, which Tehran claims is intended for peaceful purposes only. Russia last month received a delegation of Hamas leaders, and pledged to maintain diplomatic relations with the terror group in spite of efforts by the U.S. and Israel to isolate the newly elected Hamas-led Palestinian government.

Amit said Iran currently poses the most serious threat to the international community.

"The Iranians [are] financing terrorists in Israel and sending money," Amit said. "This is [my country's] immediate problem. But I think the most serious problem is Iran developing nuclear power."

Amit said Israel should not lead a military attack against Iran's suspected nuclear facilities, instead urging support for the course of diplomacy and sanctions.

"The problem of [Iranian] nuclear armaments is not an Israeli problem; it is a worldwide problem. Your question refers to what Israel can do. It shouldn't do anything by itself. It should maybe throw the idea that this is a world problem and all the Western world should unite, join hands and work together," said Amit.

"I am not sure whether a military operation would be the best solution. At least not the first solution. But you can put sanctions on Iran."

With regard to his warnings of a new world war, Amit clarified he was not advocating the international community take measures against all Arab countries:

"I know very well the Arab world. I have many friends in Arab world leaders. Not all of them think the same. They are also split in different groups. ... Although I think they will wage an Islamic war against the Western world, we must take into account they are not one piece. Somehow we must learn the differences between different sections and parts of the Arab world."

[Shammu]

You snagged it again brother, take a look at my next post.

World War 3 

[BernieEOD]

The way I see it:
- Our own abortion clinics kill more American babies than any terrorist
- Our own street gangs kill more Americans than any Terrorist organization
- Our own drug dealers poison more amercans than any ntions chemical weapons
- Our own sexual immorality infects more Americans than anybody'd bio weapons

Sorry, but our biggest threat is from within.

[Soldier4Christ]

While I agree that we indeed have a very big threat "from within" we also have just as big a threat from without. Islam wants and will control the world even though it will be for a short time. During that time there will be more tragedy than you can imagine. I thank God that His mercy is there for us and as Christians we have nothing to fear.

[BernieEOD]

I'm affraid that we are not as innocent as we would like to think. We have a nasty habbit of turning todays allies into tomorrows enemies. When, in our arrogance we brushed asside the Cuban insurgents who helped us in the Spanish-American War, the same movement finally gave us Castro. Ho Chi Minh was our Ally
in WW2, we armed him to fight the Japanese. He turned on us and went to the Soviets for help only after we sided with the French and told him to get back under the thumb of Paris. Osama was our Ally too, as long as he was "Killing commies for Allah" He was ok. After 8 years of Americas answer to Ahab & Jezzabel in the White House who was trying to impose godless liberalism upon the Arabian countries, He began to turn on us. The final strw was when, in 1993, "President Ahab" announed that he was renegging on Bush 41's promise not to establish a permanent pressence in Saudi Arabia. He, for all practical purposes, said "We lied! we are staying here forever!" I have yet to hear any demmand that "We all convert to Islam". The only demand I have heard is that we honor our promise not to establish a permant presence in the Middle East. Oh they might love to occupy us but all they can do it hit us every now & then. So the only way we can "Lose our freedom" would be if we decide to surrender after one too many 9-11's.

[Soldier4Christ]

Even the lamb and the wolf are allies when the forest behind them is on fire. Change the threat and the allies change.

I have yet to hear any demmand that "We all convert to Islam".

Then you are not listening. One of the head leaders of The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) made just that  statement as their objective at a conference right here in the U.S. He reitereated exactly what the koran says, that the infidels of the U.S. must convert to islam or be destroyed. This is also the stated objective of the Iranian leader, Hamas, Hezbollah, and more islamic groups. Hezbollah by the way has a fairly large group already on American soil and CAIR has many members that has known ties to Hamas. Many of these groups also hold positions in the ACLU.

[Shammu]

I have yet to hear any demmand that "We all convert to Islam".

Then you haven't READ the news lately.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.

Following a meeting with Sultan Jamalullail I, the supreme head of the federation of nine states where Islam was proclaimed the state religion, he pontificated: “The world will be in the hands of Islam over the next few years.”

You also haven't read the Koran..........

4.144: O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
9.5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The following statement from Usama bin Laden and his associates purports to be a religious ruling (fatwa) requiring the killing of Americans, both civilian and military.

World Islamic Front Statement

Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.

The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since Allah made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

    First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

    If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

    Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

    So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

    Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on Allah, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."

On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty Allah: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

[BernieEOD]

And how many Midevil Priests issued the proclamation "be baptised or be burned at the stake? I do believe that Scripture says "There are non rightous, not a one" That includes us. Show one tape where Bin Laden makes this demand. If Islam will spread here ,it is not from Al Quieda but from within. Here in CA, we had Muslim kids smash all the bottles in several liquor stores. A follow up report states that Islam is the fastest growing movement in the Black community. The reason? As one Muslim leader stated. "Our #1 souce of converts are Black women who are sick & tired of having 5 or 6 children from 5 or 6 different men. Black men who are sick and tired of having 5 or 6 child suppor payments. All this time, your churches have been saying "Go ahead! we are under Grace! just use a condom!" We are the only ones who firmly say "This is not right! You need to stop it!"

Invading other nations and imposing our opostasy will only inflame the situation.
They say "Convert or die" You say Convert or we bomb you!"
I will continue to talk kids out of joining and for those who changed their mind, will help them cancel thier enlistments.

[Shammu]

And how many Midevil Priests issued the proclamation "be baptised or be burned at the stake?

How long ago was that? This is now, not yesterday.

[Soldier4Christ]

Bernie this is a Christian web site and you will not push your Muslim agenda here.

[BLAD]

All this time, your churches have been saying "Go ahead! we are under Grace! just use a condom!" We are the only ones who firmly say "This is not right! You need to stop it!"

I guess Bernie you are not a Christian, which you are trying to project.  We are known by our fruit not on what we are trying to project.

As Christians we promote purity of individuals not like your statements above.  Your statement is being used by the secular world not us - Christians.

Invading other nations and imposing our opostasy will only inflame the situation.
They say "Convert or die" You say Convert or we bomb you!"
I will continue to talk kids out of joining and for those who changed their mind, will help them cancel thier enlistments.

I believe, these statement of your's is more appropriately  use in one of the News i just read about a men who is A Christian.  The court is saying convert back to islam or die.   We do not impose our faith; we try to beg people to see their sin, repent and  Jesus Christ our savior.  But impose... No... It is your choice... people choice.


So, please don't try to say something that is not. And i believe, correct me if i am wrong, you are a muslim.

[Shammu]

So, please don't try to say something that is not. And i believe, correct me if i am wrong, you are a muslim.

He can't answer you, cause he is gone. Blad, you been around long enough to know, these type of fools don't last long here.   Pastor Roger, and I got him mad enough to reveal he was muslim.

[at_the_Cross]

Pastor Roger, and I got him mad enough to reveal he was muslim.

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 

[Soldier4Christ]

Show one tape where Bin Laden makes this demand.

A statement attributed to al-Qaeda threatened more attacks in New York and Washington unless America stops supporting Israel and converts to Islam, an Arab TV reporter said. That was a day after the TV station broadcast an audiotape purportedly made by Osama bin Laden.

[at_the_Cross]

He can't answer you, cause he is gone. Blad, you been around long enough to know, these type of fools don't last long here.   Pastor Roger, and I got him mad enough to reveal he was muslim.

A statement attributed to al-Qaeda threatened more attacks in New York and Washington unless America stops supporting Israel and converts to Islam, an Arab TV reporter said. That was a day after the TV station broadcast an audiotape purportedly made by Osama bin Laden.

Why do you make amends when they're unable to post?


Matthew 13:24-30 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.