In the news - muslims......

[nChrist]

Brother Roger,

I was with my children for dinner tonight, so I missed most of this. I have tried to watch a few news spots on this over the last hour. The attacks are by absolute cowards who simply killed innocent people, hoping that most of them were American or British. They obviously didn't do any good for themselves or anyone else. The last I heard indicated some experts thought the actions were directed from outside of India by folks who might also want to hurt India. After all, one of the first results of cowardly attacks like this will be decreased tourism and trade, so these actions are likely to hurt the Indians the worst. This is the reasoning experts used in their thinking that groups inside India are much smarter than this. My first thoughts involved desperate and beaten terrorists who are being exterminated wherever they go. They are simply providing more evidence why they need to be wiped out completely. This would be quickly possible if the entire world decided to be rid of them.

I did hear that Alan Colmes was leaving, and I won't be missing him. Bluntly, I have a hard time listening to far left stuff and turn the show on for Sean Hannity.

[Soldier4Christ]

Sean Hannity is the reason that I watch the show. When Colmes comes on I usually turn the volume down to where I can't hear him. This time though I wasn't near the volume control.

There is a blogger that calls himself ultrabrown that is in the middle of this. He has been giving a continuous update on the situation from what he can see and from what is on the local news there. He has a streaming video on his site but it is in the local language which I don't know. He has been translating bits and pieces of it into English.

This part is definitely tells the whole story:

A Turk calling into CNN said his parents at the Taj told the terrorists they were Muslims, prayed in front of them, and were assured they wouldn’t be harmed if they stayed in their rooms and locked their doors.

Yes, ultrabrown also reported that there were some foreign muslims that were a part of this attack. muslims have been trying to take control of India for quite some time now.

[Shammu]

Commandos storm Mumbai Jewish center
Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:44pm EST

By Krittivas Mukherjee

MUMBAI (Reuters) - Heavy gunfire erupted on Friday after Indian commandos were dropped by helicopter onto the roof of a Jewish center in Mumbai, where suspected Islamist militants are holding at least 10 Israelis, a Reuters witness said.

Television reports said it was the start of an assault by the para-military National Security Guard to flush out the militants.

The Jewish center was one of three pockets in the country's financial capital where Indian forces were battling die-hard militants, more than 24 hours after the band of heavily armed fighters killed at least 121 people in coordinated attacks.

The Reuters witness said troops fired into the Jewish center, apparently to provide cover, as commandos rappelled down ropes from helicopters that made at least three sorties. Television showed the commandos taking up positions on the roof.

The building is in a crowded part of the city, making a frontal assault difficult.

Police said militants were still holed up as well at the Taj Mahal hotel and the nearby Oberoi-Trident hotel along with an unknown number of hostages.

A Reuters witness said commandos also entered the Oberoi-Trident on Friday morning, although there were no immediate signs of fighting.

Mumbai, a city of 18 million, is the nerve-center of India's growing economic might and home to the "Bollywood" film industry.

Hindu-dominated India, which has a sizeable Muslim minority, has been hit by militant attacks for decades. But this strike seemed aimed at crippling its ability to draw foreign investment.

Its markets closed on Thursday because of the attacks but India's market regulator said he had asked stock exchanges to be ready to trade on Friday, with a final decision to be made later.

PINNING BLAME

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh pinned blame for the attacks on militant groups based in India's neighbors, usually an allusion to Pakistan, raising prospects of renewed tension between the nuclear-armed rivals.

He warned of "a cost" if these nations did not take action to stop their territory being used to launch such attacks.

An estimated 25 men armed with assault rifles and grenades -- at least some of whom arrived by sea -- had fanned out across Mumbai on Wednesday night to attack sites popular with tourists and businessmen, including the city's top two luxury hotels.

Police said at least seven of the attackers were killed and nine suspects had been taken into custody. They said 12 policemen were killed, including Hemant Karkare, chief of the police anti-terrorist squad in Mumbai.

At least six foreigners, including one Australian, a Briton, an Italian and a Japanese national, were killed. Scores of others were trapped in the fighting or were being held hostage.

Police said 279 people were wounded.

PAKISTAN GROUP

The Hindu newspaper said at least three of the attackers taken into custody were members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba group, based in Pakistan.

The group made its name fighting Indian rule in disputed Kashmir, and has been closely linked in the past to the Pakistani military's Inter Services Intelligence agency, the ISI.

Lashkar-e-Taiba has denied any role in the attacks.

"It is evident that the group which carried out these attacks, based outside the country, had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the commercial capital of the country," Prime Minister Singh said on Thursday.

"We will take up strongly with our neighbors that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated, and that there would be a cost if suitable measures are not taken by them," he said in a televised address.

Pakistan, condemning the assault, promised full cooperation.

The militants appeared to specifically target Britons, Americans and Israelis, witnesses said.

World leaders including U.S. President-elect Barack Obama condemned the incident.

The attacks brought the biggest chaos to the city since serial bombings in 1993, blamed on the city's Muslim crime syndicates, killed 260 people and injured hundreds.

Commandos storm Mumbai Jewish center

[Shammu]

High-Seas Pirates Increasingly Working With Jihadis
By MAJ. W. THOMAS SMITH JR
November 26, 2008

They are hardly the bejeweled, Jolly Roger flying buccaneers we've come to associate with of the Golden Age of Piracy (1692-1725). But 21st century pirates operating on the high seas are every bit as dangerous as their romanticized forebears. They are far more tech savvy. And experts contend they may be increasingly coordinating efforts with Islamist terrorists, particularly those pirates operating in the Indian Ocean off the East African coast of Somalia and in the heavily trafficked Gulf of Aden.

In the December 2008 issue of Armed Forces Journal, Peter Brookes, a former CIA operations officer who also served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for Asian and Pacific affairs, writes: "While maritime terrorism and piracy aren't the same, they could overlap, especially when it comes to targets and techniques, providing opportunities for collaboration."

Dominick Donald, chief analyst for London-based Aegis Defense Services, agrees. "Al-Shabaab [a Somalia-based, al-Qaeda-linked terrorist organization so-designated by the U.S. state department] is at least tolerating piracy, and may be doing more," Donald said Monday during a panel discussion on piracy hosted by the Washington, D.C.-based Heritage Foundation.

J. Peter Pham – also on the panel, but in an exclusive conversation with Middle East Times – says that, to date, Islamists in Somalia like al-Shabaab may not yet be "directly involved" in acts of piracy. "But we do know they [the Islamists] have received money from the pirates in exchange for looking the other way when it comes to pirate activities, and for allowing the pirates to bring hijacked vessels into ports like Kismayo which the Islamists control."

Pham, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, adds, pirates have "done favors for the terrorists like bringing in weapons and materiel and foreign jihadists into Somalia." And evidence cited by more than one analyst indicates the Islamists in Somalia have been paid to provide training in both weapons and tactics to the pirates.

"Both pirates and Islamists are clearly benefiting from one another," Pham says. "Not only is money changing hands, but the Islamists are piggy-backing on the pirates' ability to travel at sea."

Pham refers to this collaboration as "a tactical alliance," and says "an operational alliance" may be forthcoming. At the very least, the Islamists – with pirate assistance – may be developing a maritime capability.

"Some analysts point to credible intelligence indicating al-Shabaab is developing a maritime capacity similar to the maritime capacity that the Tamil Tigers had off Sri Lanka," says Pham. "If that happens, it will be a major deterioration of the situation."

The most recent statistics (released October 2008) by the International Maritime Bureau indicate nearly 200 reported incidents of piracy worldwide - with Somalia, Nigeria, and Indonesia being the top-three hotspots respectively - from January through September 2008. Those same statistics show 63 attacks off Somalia. Attacks since increase the numbers to nearly 100 ships attacked off Somalia this year, including 39 ships hijacked and at least 17 still in the hands of pirates.

The problem for naval forces tasked with combating pirates is three-fold. First: counter piracy efforts often take a back seat to more pressing concerns on the high seas. Navies in 2008 already have their hands full with global counterterrorism operations and – in the case of the U.S. Navy – ongoing sealift ops, as well as the monitoring of the exercises and operations of other navies.

Second: the oceans cover over 70 percent of the earth. Sixty percent of those oceans are the vast free-to-roam international waters, and pirates are extending their reach farther out into those waters.

Third: modern-day pirates - operating in speedboats launched from remote bases or mother ships (seized and converted freighters) - are almost always well-equipped with GPS receivers, computers, satellite phones, rangefinders and powerful telescopes, light and heavy machineguns, and rocket-propelled grenades; basically the same technology available to terrorists.

And the consensus among experts like Pham is that "it's going to get worse before it gets better."

High-Seas Pirates Increasingly Working With Jihadis

[Shammu]

Al-Qaida No. 2 to US: Overcome meltdown with Islam

Nov 28, 6:44 AM (ET)


CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader appeared in a new video posted Friday calling on Americans to embrace Islam to overcome the financial meltdown, which he said was a consequence of the Sept. 11 attacks and militant strikes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Ayman al-Zawahri, whose 80-minute recording touched on a number of subjects, also lashed out at Afghanistan's government and said any U.S. gains in Iraq will be temporary.

Zawahri's new recording came in the form of a question-and-answer session with an off-camera interviewer.

Appearing in a white turban and robe, Zawahri discussed the roots of the U.S. economic crisis. He said it was a repercussion of the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, and that the crisis would continue "as long as the foolish American policy of wading in Muslim blood continues."

"The American economy was afflicted by a downturn and loss of investor confidence in the market following the events of Sept. 11," he said.

"The modern economy has been destroyed by the strikes of the mujahedeen (in Iraq and Afghanistan) and usury," he said, using the Arabic term for holy warriors.

Under Islamic Sharia law, usury, like drinking alcohol, is among the grand sins.

Zawahri then called on the American people to "embrace Islam to live a life free of greed, exploitation and forbidden wealth."

He also dared President George W. Bush to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan and the region.

"I tell Bush: the dogs of Afghanistan have yet to eat their fill of the flesh of the Americans," Zawahri said. "I challenge you, if you're really a man, to send the entire American army to Pakistan and the tribal regions."

Zawahri's new tape came about a week after his last message, which he used to accuse U.S. President-elect Barack Obama of turning his back on his black heritage to gain power.

Osama bin Laden's top lieutenant did not refer to the attacks in Mumbai, India, late Wednesday and early Thursday that killed scores.

Intelligence analysts said the violence carried trademarks of al-Qaida but evidence has been pointing to homegrown terrorists. A little known suspected Islamic militant group has claimed responsibility.

Zawahri also labeled Afghan President Hamid Karzai's recent attempt to negotiate with Taliban insurgents a sign of his government's weakness. He also accused the United States of giving phony reports of success in the turbulent region, maintaining the Americans are doomed to fail in Afghanistan and the tribal areas of Pakistan.

Discussing Iraq, Zawahri said that U.S. gains are temporary. He also stressed that that Sunni Awakening Councils - former insurgents who have revolted against al-Qaida - will not be accepted by the Shiite majority government.

Zawahri spoke out against charges al-Qaida has killed innocent civilians, calling the reports Western propaganda.

Zawahri, an Egyptian, also took aim at Egypt's government, blaming it for the blockade of the Gaza Strip because it has kept its border with the territory sealed. Israel has also sealed crossing points because of Palestinian rocket fire.

Zawahri called on Egyptian students and workers to stage a general strike to demand the lifting of the siege on Gaza.

"What is the problem if everybody goes on strike in Egypt and announces that they are blockading themselves in their houses until the government lifts the blockade from our brothers in Gaza?" he said.

Al-Qaida No. 2 to US: Overcome meltdown with Islam

[Shammu]

No thank you, I'll take Jesus and His love for us over satan.

Ayman al-Zawahri, I hate to tell you but, your god, satan is doomed. That's just the way the story reads!!

[Soldier4Christ]

Mumbai terror siege ends
Indian commandos storm hostage hotel, kill last remaining gunmen

Two and a half days after teams of suspected Islamist terrorists began their brutal attacks across India's financial capital, their final standoff at the Taj Mahal hotel is over after Indian commandos took the building by force and killed the last remaining gunmen holed up at the hotel.

Shantaram Jadhav, an official at Mumbai's disaster control office, says 195 people have been killed and 295 wounded. Jadhav says "the death toll is likely to rise because there are still bodies in our vans that are being brought into hospitals." Eighteen foreigners, including six Americans, were killed.

The hotel was the final terror hotspot Saturday morning, with Indian authorities already appearing to have regained control over the rest of the city after the wave of attacks launched late Wednesday night. Security officials told FOX News' sister network Sky News that all hostages had been freed from the hotel.

Even as the battle ended, Indians began burying their dead, many of them security force members killed fighting the gunmen.

In the southern city of Bangalore, black-clad commandos formed an honor guard as the flag-draped coffin of Maj. Gen. Unnikrishnan, who was killed in the fighting at the Taj, passed by. "He gave up his own life to save the others," said Dutt.

Bhushan Gagrani, the Maharashtra state government spokesman, told The Associated Press at least 11 gunmen had been killed and one captured alive after the attack that shook the city and the country.

On Saturday the Indian navy said it was investigating whether a trawler found drifting off the coast of Mumbai, with a bound corpse on board, was used in the attack.

Navy spokesman Capt. Manohar Nambiar said the trawler, named Kuber, had been found Thursday and was brought to Mumbai. Officials said they believe the boat had sailed from a port in the neighboring state of Gujarat.

Indian security officers believe many of the gunmen may have reached the city using a black and yellow rubber dinghy found near the site of the attacks.

As daylight dawned Saturday, the sound of explosions and gunfire continued to emanate from inside the hotel, and a new fire broke out and raged through parts of the building's lower floors. Indian forces went through the large building room by room in an effort to root out the terrorists, and as the operation came to an end, India's NDTV reported, one terrorist was caught, another was killed and hand grenades and an AK-47 were recovered.

The lingering alarm there was a far cry from the broader, fast-evolving massacre that struck India's financial capital late Wednesday night. A little-known group calling itself Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility early on, though Indian authorities and some other security analysts are pointing fingers at a group or groups with roots in Pakistan.

"According to preliminary information, some elements in Pakistan are responsible for Mumbai terror attacks," Pranab Mukherjee, India's foreign minister, told reporters in the western city of Jodhpur, though he declined to identify any evidence.

Pakistan, India's cross-border rival, has denied that its government had anything to do with the attacks. Pakistani leaders have called on the two countries to work together to combat terrorism, and Pakistan has pledged to send its spy chief, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha, to India to help probe the attacks.

Orange flames and black smoke engulfed the landmark 565-room Taj Mahal hotel after dawn Saturday as Indian forces ended the siege there in a hail of gunfire, just hours after elite commandos stormed a Jewish center and found at least eight hostages dead.

The New York-based Chabad-Lubavitch movement confirmed Friday that two New Yorkers, Rabbi Zalman Schmotkin and his wife, Rivka, were among the dead. The couple's toddler son, Moshe Holtzberg, was taken out of the center by an employee and is now with grandparents.

Two more Americans, Alan Scherr, 58, and daughter Naomi, 13, were identified as being among the dead in the attacks, killed while in a Mumbai cafe Wednesday night. The pair were part of a meditation group called the Synchronicity Foundation that was visiting India. Two other Americans with the group were injured.

President Bush issued a statement on Friday, saying the wounded were in his thoughts and prayers.

"My administration has been working with the Indian government and the international community as Indian authorities work to ensure the safety of those still under threat. We will continue to cooperate against these extremists who offer nothing but violence and hopelessness," Bush said.

The FBI is sending a team of agents to India to help investigate, and a second group is on alert if needed.

Indian security officials, meanwhile, declared the siege over Friday at the Oberoi hotel after commandos killed the two last gunmen inside.

"The hotel is under our control," J.K. Dutt, director general of India's elite National Security Guard commando unit, told reporters, adding that 24 bodies had been found. Dozens of people — including a man clutching a baby — had been evacuated from Oberoi earlier Friday.

Some hotel guests were still believed to be in their rooms. "They are still scared, so even when we request them to come out and identify ourselves, they are naturally afraid," said Dutt.

"I'm going home, I'm going to see my wife," said Mark Abell, with a huge smile on his face after emerging from the hotel. Abell, from Britain, had locked himself in his room during the siege.

But outside the Taj Mahal, a FOXNews.com reporter said there were several explosions believed to be grenades and intensifying gunfire, and that fires had broken out inside the building.

"It's just a matter of a few hours that we'll be able to wrap up things," Lt. Gen. N. Thamburaj told reporters Friday morning, but the standoff and the search of the hotel continued well into the night.

Indian forces expanded their investigation to the sea because the gunmen apparently came to Mumbai by boat. Authorities stopped a cargo ship off the western coast of Gujarat that had sailed from Saudi Arabia and handed it over to police for investigation, said Navy Capt. Manohar Nambiar said.

They also stopped a cargo ship that had come to Mumbai from Karachi, Pakistan, but released it when nothing suspicious was found on board.

The British government, meanwhile, was investigating whether some of the attackers could be British citizens with links to Pakistan or the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir, a British security official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of his work.

The gunmen were well-prepared, apparently scouting some targets ahead of time and carrying large bags of almonds to keep up their energy.

"It's obvious they were trained somewhere. ... Not everyone can handle the AK series of weapons or throw grenades like that," an unidentified member of India's Marine Commando unit told reporters, his face wrapped in a black mask. He said the men were "very determined and remorseless" and ready for a long siege. One backpack they found had 400 rounds of ammunition inside.

He said the Taj was filled with terrified civilians, making it very difficult for the commandos to fire on the gunmen.

"To try and avoid civilian casualties we had to be so much more careful," he said, adding that hotel was a grim sight. "Bodies were strewn all over the place, and there was blood everywhere."

India has been shaken repeatedly by terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants in recent years, but most were bombings striking crowded places: markets, street corners, parks. Mumbai — one of the most populated cities in the world with some 18 million people — was hit by a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people.

India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars over Kashmir. U.S. officials are concerned about a flare-up in animosity similar to one that occurred after Pakistani militants attacked the Indian parliament in December 2001, officials said.

Underscoring those fears, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has called the foreign minister of India twice, along with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, since the crisis began.

"There were very worrying tensions in the region," said Gordon Duguid, a State Department spokesman. "She was calling the president of Pakistan to get his read on how those tensions might be affected."

[nChrist]

No thank you, I'll take Jesus and His love for us over satan.

Ayman al-Zawahri, I hate to tell you but, your god, satan is doomed. That's just the way the story reads!!

AMEN!

The end of the story is already written, and it won't be changed!

Love In Christ,
Tom

2 Corinthians 3:2-3 NASB  You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

[Shammu]

Hundreds Dead in Postelection Riots in Nigeria

Saturday , November 29, 2008

JOS, Nigeria  —
Death toll in Nigeria sectarian riots rises to at least 153 as bodies arrive at town mosque.

Mobs behind Nigeria's worst sectarian fighting in years burned homes, churches and mosques Saturday in a second day of riots.

Twenty bodies bearing fresh wounds were prepared for burial at the Jos central mosque as troops sent to restore calm received orders to shoot any troublemakers on sight.

Authorities imposed an around-the-clock curfew in the hardest-hit areas of the central Nigerian city, where traditionally pastoralist Hausa Muslims live in tense, close quarters with Christians from other ethnic groups.

The fighting began as clashes between supporters of the region's two main political parties following the first local election in the town of Jos in more than a decade. But the violence expanded along ethnic and religious fault lines, with Hausas and members of Christian ethnic groups doing battle.

The hostilities mark the worst clashes in the restive West African nation since a 2006 outbreak left 127 people dead.

Angry mobs gathered Thursday in Jos after electoral workers failed to publicly post results in ballot collation centers, prompting many onlookers to assume the vote was the latest in a long line of fraudulent Nigerian elections.

Riots flared Friday morning and at least 15 people were killed in the violence. Local ethnic and religious leaders made radio appeals for calm on Saturday, and streets were mostly empty by early afternoon.

Jos, the capital of Plateau State, has a long history of community violence that has made it difficult to organize voting. Rioting in September 2001 killed more than 1,000 people.

The city is situated in Nigeria's "middle belt," where members of hundreds of ethnic groups commingle in a band of fertile and hotly contested land separating the Muslim north from the predominantly Christian south.

The latest violence is the worst since the May 2007 inauguration of President Umaru Yar'Adua, who came to power in a vote that international observers dismissed as not credible.

Few Nigerian elections have been deemed free and fair since independence from Britain in 1960, and military takeovers have periodically interrupted civilian rule.

More than 10,000 Nigerians have died in sectarian violence since civilian leaders took over from a former military junta in 1999. Political strife over local issues is common in Nigeria, where government offices control massive budgets stemming from the country's oil industry.

Hundreds Dead in Postelection Riots in Nigeria

[Soldier4Christ]

Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in Catholic schools, say church leaders

Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, church leaders have said.

The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.

The demands go way beyond legal requirements on catering for religious minorities.

But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith - want to answer critics who say religious schools sow division.

The recommendations were made in a document, Catholic Schools, Children of Other Faiths and Community Cohesion.

'If practicable, a room (or rooms) might be made available for the use of pupils and staff from other faiths for prayer,' the bishops said.

'Existing toilet facilities might be adapted to accommodate individual ritual cleansing which is sometimes part of religious lifestyle and worship.

'If such space is not available on a permanent or regular basis, extra efforts might be made to address such need for major religious festivals.'

The Islamic cleansing ritual, called 'Wudhu', is carried out by Muslims before they pray.

Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

Wudhu involves washing the face, hands, arms and feet three times each, gargling the mouth three times and washing the neck and inside the nose and ears. Some Muslims also wash their private parts.

Catholic schools would need to install bidets, foot spas and hoses to facilitate such extensive cleansing rituals, Muslims say.

Daphne McLeod, a former Catholic head teacher from south London, said it would be 'terribly expensive' for the country's 2,300 Catholic primary and secondary schools to provide ritual cleansing facilities.

She said: 'If Muslim parents choose a Catholic school then they accept that it is going to be a Catholic school and there will not be facilities for ritual cleansing and prayer rooms.

'They do their ritual cleansing before they go to a mosque, but they are not going to a mosque.

'I don't think the bishops should go looking for problems. Where will it stop?'

But Majid Khatme, a Muslim who sent his children to a London Catholic school, said he was delighted by the gesture.

'It is very kind of the bishops if they give this facility for Muslims to pray,' he said.

'I would love to send a letter of thanks to the bishops, really. If they do this all Muslims in Britain will be thankful to the Catholic Church to have facilities to pray. It is very, very encouraging.'

The recommendations have been approved by Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham and the favourite to succeed Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor as Catholic primate.

But it would be up to governing bodies of each school to decide whether to act on the guidance.

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Now the Catholic Church of England wants to cater to a religion that would happily burn every church and bible, then kill those at the churches and caught with those bibles. I wonder if Muslim leaders will offer Christian prayer rooms for those non-muslims who want to attend a Muslim school? Yeah, I know, that was pretty stupid to even postulate.

Amazingly, they RoP did not even have to threaten the Church. The bishops seem to be just dhimmying up.

[David_james]

Please Jesus, take us home

[Shammu]

Please Jesus, take us home

AMEN brother, I'm ready to leave this wicked world.

[Shammu]

UK Muslim leader: "In an Islamic state, non-Muslims will have to wear a sign to show what they are – it should say Kaffir. We won’t discriminate on height, race or appearance but we will discriminate on faith."

December 2 2008

(There is also video at this site. DW)

"The subject peoples," [i.e., the dhimmis] according to a manual of Islamic law endorsed by Al-Azhar University in Cairo, must "pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)" and "are distinguished from Muslims in dress..." ('Umdat al-Salik, o11.3).

"Terror Cops Fear 'Mumbai Attack' In UK," by Tom Savage and Josh Layton for the UK Daily Star tabloid, December 2 (thanks to all who sent this in):

    RANTING Anjem Choudary launched an astonishing anti-British tirade as terror experts warned yesterday of a Mumbai-style massacre in Britain.

    The hate preacher called for apartheid in the UK just days after backing the killers in India. And his supporters threatened to unleash “blood on the streets”. [...]

    Choudary, 41, spoke at a packed public meeting called “Not So Great Britain”.

    It was held at a council-owned arts centre in Southall, Middlesex, by Islam4UK.com – a website he founded with banned hate preacher Omar Bakri Mohammad.

    Filthy

    He branded Britain “filthy”, accused children of being “prostitutes” and demanded non-Muslims wear signs like the Nazis forced on the Jews in WWII.

    Crazed Choudary said: “In Britain there are 230 rapes every day, that’s 10 per hour. Supermarkets are selling poles for little children so they can become prostitutes when they grow up. There’s no comparison between our way of life and theirs.

    “In an Islamic state, non-Muslims will have to wear a sign to show what they are – it should say Kaffir. We won’t discriminate on height, race or appearance but we will discriminate on faith.” Earlier, Bakri spoke via videophone from Lebanon.

    Meanwhile, one of Choudary’s henchmen at Islam4UK, which has close links to banned group al-Muhajiroun, warned: “You will know when the Muslims have ignited an insurrection when there is blood on the streets of London and New York like there is blood on the streets of Fallujah and Mumbai.”...

UK Muslim leader: "In an Islamic state, non-Muslims will have to wear a sign to show what they are – it should say Kaffir. We won’t discriminate on height, race or appearance but we will discriminate on faith."

[Shammu]

Sound alot like Hitler, in World War 2 doesn't it. Least that's the first thing that came to my mind when I read that. A yellow Star of David to I.D. the Jewish people.

Freedom of speech is one thing inciting violence and encouraging a bloodbath is another. Why does the UK tolerate this islamic jerk and his followers??

[sarcasm] I wonder what will be the sign for non-Muslims??  Maybe we can do that here in America. Make all Muslims wear a non-Judeo-Christian identity card or sign.[/sarcasm]

[Soldier4Christ]

I wonder what will be the sign for non-Muslims??

Or perhaps the number for Dhimmi's ...

666?