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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2006, 11:07:49 AM »

We had a lesson today and my teacher said that God did not put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden. I would like to get your views on this matter. We had a man in our class who said the tree was a metaphor. I don't believe it to be a metaphor but I am kind of confused too.  Huh
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Of course God put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden, just as He put Satan in the garden.

Now was there "magic " in the tree? Did the fruit have some mystical power?

I am not too sure if it was the fruit itself .

God had a covenant with Adam, there was only one law. Do not eat of that tree.

Up to the point of disobeying the Law given by God, Adam and Eve were innocent . They did not know what sin was (transgression of the law-- Romans) . But once they did transgress the law they did know what sin was ( their eyes were open), they lost the innocence they had. They now understood that there was good and their was evil, they now had a conscience . That is why they ran and hid their nakedness.


God put the tree in the garden, God put Satan in the Garden . God was not surprised at the fall, He had already made provision for it.

 
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2006, 11:22:16 AM »


Now was there "magic " in the tree? Did the fruit have some mystical power?

I am not too sure if it was the fruit itself .

 

Calsgal, Hi I would first like to welcome you to CU, I am happy you decided to join us.

to answer your question was there 'magic' in the tree or mystical power? or the fruit.

There was no magic in anything that God created.

It was a LAW, God's law was for Adam and Eve not to eat of that particular tree, they broke that law. Because God is Omniscient He knew they had broken His law and the result of that breaking of God's command we are all too familiar with.

God does not contradict Himself in anyway. He condemns srcery and workers of magic.

God is Omnipotent, He does not need to work magic on anything.



God had a covenant with Adam, there was only one law. Do not eat of that tree.


I agree with you on this  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2006, 12:44:16 PM »

Hi Calsgal,

Again welcome to Christians Unite. I am gald to see you here.

There were two special trees in the Garde of Eden. Personally I would not call either of the mystical or magical. I do know that each had their special abilities. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil gave Adam and Eve the ability to know the difference between good and evil. The other tree was the Tree of Life which had the ability to maintain life forever. We know that the Tree of Life is now in heaven as we are told in the book of Revelations and those that have accepted Jesus as their Saviour will be able to partake of it.

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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2006, 05:05:35 PM »

Calsgal, Hi I would first like to welcome you to CU, I am happy you decided to join us.

to answer your question was there 'magic' in the tree or mystical power? or the fruit.

There was no magic in anything that God created.

It was a LAW, God's law was for Adam and Eve not to eat of that particular tree, they broke that law. Because God is Omniscient He knew they had broken His law and the result of that breaking of God's command we are all too familiar with.

God does not contradict Himself in anyway. He condemns srcery and workers of magic.

God is Omnipotent, He does not need to work magic on anything.

I agree with you on this  Smiley

Thanks, there was an old saying that came from the puritans I think

It went some like 

Before the fall, man was free to sin or not sin ( man was innocent)

After the fall man could only choose sin

After man is saved he can choose to sin or not sin

In glory man will not be able to sin


Luther called the result of the  fall " the bondage of the will" .

In Adam all of us fell..
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2006, 06:29:26 PM »

Hi Calsgal,

Again welcome to Christians Unite. I am gald to see you here.

There were two special trees in the Garde of Eden. Personally I would not call either of the mystical or magical. I do know that each had their special abilities. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil gave Adam and Eve the ability to know the difference between good and evil. The other tree was the Tree of Life which had the ability to maintain life forever. We know that the Tree of Life is now in heaven as we are told in the book of Revelations and those that have accepted Jesus as their Saviour will be able to partake of it.


I have had a fascination with the images the scriptures paint for us .

This scripture spoke to me when I was a fairly new Christian



Eze 47:3   And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters [were] to the ankles.


Eze 47:4   Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters [were] to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters [were] to the loins.


Eze 47:5   Afterward he measured a thousand; [and it was] a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.


Eze 47:6   And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen [this]? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.


Eze 47:7   Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river [were] very many trees on the one side and on the other.


Eze 47:8   Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: [which being] brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.


Eze 47:9   And it shall come to pass, [that] every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.


Eze 47:10   And it shall come to pass, [that] the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a [place] to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.

Eze 47:12   And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.


Eze 47:13   Thus saith the Lord GOD; This [shall be] the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph [shall have two] portions.


My heart saw this flowing stream as the grace of God that came to my ankles then my knees and then engulfed me .


We see the same image in Revelations

Rev 22:1   And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


Rev 22:2   In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.


Rev 22:3   And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:


Rev 22:4   And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads.


Rev 22:5   And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Amen and amen
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