ELECTRICITY----HELP

[Soldier4Christ]

Cris,

The more you describe the more it sounds like you only have one leg going to your stove. Have you used the multimeter and checked voltage on both legs (hot wires)?

Oven coils usually have a shellac covering on them during shipment to prevent them from rusting. It usually burns off in seconds with the right amount of juice going through them. It happens so fast normally that there isn't much oder.

Sorry, I never logged off but wasn't here the whole time.

Yes, it was checked at the fuse box AND behind the stove.  Think I told you when the house voltage was 130, the voltage coming over the 220 line was 260.  Behind the stove, legs read 128 and 128.8.  

The self cleaning cycle finished and cooled.  I then turned the oven back on to bake at 375..............it still smells, and is in my throat.  What in the world is going on?  What else could it possibly be?  I'm baffled, and so are the people at the appliance parts store.

cris

uhhhh  .......   time for an exorcism??

Baffled is an understatement.

[cris]

Cris,

The more you describe the more it sounds like you only have one leg going to your stove. Have you used the multimeter and checked voltage on both legs (hot wires)?

Oven coils usually have a shellac covering on them during shipment to prevent them from rusting. It usually burns off in seconds with the right amount of juice going through them. It happens so fast normally that there isn't much oder.

Sorry, I never logged off but wasn't here the whole time.

Yes, it was checked at the fuse box AND behind the stove.  Think I told you when the house voltage was 130, the voltage coming over the 220 line was 260.  Behind the stove, legs read 128 and 128.8.  

The self cleaning cycle finished and cooled.  I then turned the oven back on to bake at 375..............it still smells, and is in my throat.  What in the world is going on?  What else could it possibly be?  I'm baffled, and so are the people at the appliance parts store.

cris

uhhhh  .......   time for an exorcism??

Baffled is an understatement.

Well, believe or not Ripley, I was just going to say that this oven is possessed!

[Soldier4Christ]

One thing that I might suggest is to let the oven cool down completely then try cleaning the element with rubbing alcohol, scrubbing it good with steel wool or a scotch bright pad. Let the alcohol evaporate really good and then try it again.

[cris]

On top of all of this, at exactly the same time, I developed a rash on my chest....................more like very small welts.  I can't get rid of it either.  Went back to see if I ate something different.  I didn't, but I did open a new loaf of 7 grain bread on Wednesday.  I noticed the rash sometime after, that same day.  Have no idea if the rash developed from the stress, the odor permeating the house from the stove, or what it's from.  I DO NOT NEED THIS!!!!

[cris]

One thing that I might suggest is to let the oven cool down completely then try cleaning the element with rubbing alcohol, scrubbing it good with steel wool or a scotch bright pad. Let the alcohol evaporate really good and then try it again.

Appliance parts are not returnable.  If I use alcohol and/or steel wool, it will show that I've altered them and I will not be able to even get an exchange then.  Alcohol yes, I suppose that would be okay, but I had it on 900 degrees for two hours on self clean.  Don't you think that should have done it?  Initially, I cleaned the elements with an ammonia/water solution.

Oh, oh, oh, I'm modifying this post because I forgot to say that even if I was able to get rid of this odor, and even though the oven thermometer reads 375, if I set it at 375, my food is not cooking in the center or bottom.

Is it possible I need to order the transformer?  This is a long shot, but I'm wondering if there isn't something going on in the wiring.




 

[Soldier4Christ]

Yeah, I don't think you want to scratch the element in case you have to return it.

Take a deep breath, pray a lot. You don't need to get stressed out.

900 degrees?? What kind of stove do you have? The average household oven only goes to 500 maybe 550 at the most even in cleaning mode.

Do you have an oven themometer so you can see if the thermostat is working right?

[cris]

One thing that I might suggest is to let the oven cool down completely then try cleaning the element with rubbing alcohol, scrubbing it good with steel wool or a scotch bright pad. Let the alcohol evaporate really good and then try it again.

Appliance parts are not returnable.  If I use alcohol and/or steel wool, it will show that I've altered them and I will not be able to even get an exchange then.  Alcohol yes, I suppose that would be okay, but I had it on 900 degrees for two hours on self clean.  Don't you think that should have done it?  Initially, I cleaned the elements with an ammonia/water solution.

Oh, oh, oh, I'm modifying this post because I forgot to say that even if I was able to get rid of this odor, and even though the oven thermometer reads 375, if I set it at 375, my food is not cooking in the center or bottom.

Is it possible I need to order the transformer?  This is a long shot, but I'm wondering if there isn't something going on in the wiring.




 

And I also forgot to say that even though I'm getting good voltage readings, could something still be wrong with the wiring?

Wish I would have said, what I wanted to say, when I didn't say it.  I just still might say something that I didn't say before, that I forgot to say.  Now, if you can figure out what I just said, you're doing much better than I.  

[cris]

Yeah, I don't think you want to scratch the element in case you have to return it.

Take a deep breath, pray a lot. You don't need to get stressed out.

900 degrees?? What kind of stove do you have? The average household oven only goes to 500 maybe 550 at the most even in cleaning mode.

Do you have an oven themometer so you can see if the thermostat is working right?

I have a KitchenAid.  Broiling is 500 to 550, but self cleaning on any stove I've ever had has been 800 to 900 degrees.  That high temp is what does the cleaning.

Yes, I have 3 oven thermometers.  I said before that I used a thermometer to check the oven temp.  That's how I know it's reading correctly.  It's staying steady at whatever it's set on, and I might add, it's smack dab right in the center of the oven, too.  This is unbelievable!



 











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[Soldier4Christ]

The only thing that can go wrong with the wiring is a loose connection or a break in it. The transformer could be a problem also. There is a wiring diagram on your stove. Usually on a back panel. It should tell you what the voltage is supposed to be on the stove side of the transformer. You can check the output of it and see if it is putting the right voltage out.

Another thing to consider is amperage. Amperage is harder to check without a special meter though as the standard multimeter only checks up to 10 amps and an oven is 60 amps. I would check the transformer voltage though and the out put of the thermostat to the coil.

[cris]

Oh, oh, oh, I'm modifying this post because I forgot to say that even if I was able to get rid of this odor, and even though the oven thermometer reads 375, if I set it at 375, my food is not cooking in the center or bottom.

Is it possible I need to order the transformer?  This is a long shot, but I'm wondering if there isn't something going on in the wiring.




 

And I also forgot to say that even though I'm getting good voltage readings, could something still be wrong with the wiring?

Wish I would have said, what I wanted to say, when I didn't say it.  I just still might say something that I didn't say before, that I forgot to say.  Now, if you can figure out what I just said, you're doing much better than I.  

[Soldier4Christ]

The only thing that can go wrong with the wiring is a loose connection or a break in it. The transformer could be a problem also. There is a wiring diagram on your stove. Usually on a back panel. It should tell you what the voltage is supposed to be on the stove side of the transformer. You can check the output of it and see if it is putting the right voltage out.

Another thing to consider is amperage. Amperage is harder to check without a special meter though as the standard multimeter only checks up to 10 amps and an oven is 60 amps. I would check the transformer voltage though and the out put of the thermostat to the coil.

[Soldier4Christ]

Yeah, I don't think you want to scratch the element in case you have to return it.

Take a deep breath, pray a lot. You don't need to get stressed out.

900 degrees?? What kind of stove do you have? The average household oven only goes to 500 maybe 550 at the most even in cleaning mode.

Do you have an oven themometer so you can see if the thermostat is working right?

I have a KitchenAid.  Broiling is 500 to 550, but self cleaning on any stove I've ever had has been 800 to 900 degrees.  That high temp is what does the cleaning.

Yes, I have 3 oven thermometers.  I said before that I used a thermometer to check the oven temp.  That's how I know it's reading correctly.  It's staying steady at whatever it's set on, and I might add, it's smack dab right in the center of the oven, too.  This is unbelievable!

Forgive me ....  I have a very poor short term memory so I have probably asked these questions several times. Just trying to cover all of the angles.

[cris]

The only thing that can go wrong with the wiring is a loose connection or a break in it. The transformer could be a problem also. There is a wiring diagram on your stove. Usually on a back panel. It should tell you what the voltage is supposed to be on the stove side of the transformer. You can check the output of it and see if it is putting the right voltage out.

Another thing to consider is amperage. Amperage is harder to check without a special meter though as the standard multimeter only checks up to 10 amps and an oven is 60 amps. I would check the transformer voltage though and the out put of the thermostat to the coil.

OK.................I'm going out there now.  Will report back what I found.

Thanks.

cris

[Soldier4Christ]

and even though the oven thermometer reads 375, if I set it at 375

Now I am really confused. If it is a steady 375 when set at 375 then the thermostat and the transformer must be good.

[Soldier4Christ]

Woo wait a minute are you talking about the oven transformer or the transformer on the pole. Don't go near the one on the pole!