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« on: September 14, 2004, 11:07:42 PM »

"From that time many of his disciples went back,and walked with Him no more", (John 6:66)....(666 ?)

I believe that this is the same Apostle John who wrote about the 'Mark of the Beast", in Revelation 13.

And, I believe that John (in the gospels) is discribing one of the details, of people who accept the M.B.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2004, 12:57:23 AM »

This has been posted alot in the debate thread. But I guess one more time won't hurt..........

"And he causes all, both great and small, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark" Rev.13:16-1
...and the Bible tells us that he who receives the "mark" will go to Hell (or if you wish, the Lake of Fire.)Rev.14:9-11.

The goals of the "Anti-Christ"  is "to control" everything: Religion, jobs, economics, politics, education, government, police, military, banks, communications, entertainment... to have a "cashless society" controlled by the Antichrist...

... And all of this at a local level, but aiming at a "New World Order" to control a universal monetary system, a universal government, and a unified religion under the Antichrist.

And all of this at a local level, but aiming at a "New World Order" to control a universal monetary system, a universal government, and a unified religion.

There are three possibilities:
1- A physical mark.
2- A spiritual mark.
3- Or both of them
   

1- A Physical Mark:
It is important to have in mind that "no man may by or sell, save he that had the mark"... so, it has to be something easy to verify, and modern technology gives us some interesting suggestions.

2- UPC Bar Code (Universal Product Code): Today, nearly every product we buy from the store has a UPC (Universal Product Code) symbol--commonly called a "bar code."

In 1974, a strange, new mark began appearing on products. Until today, virtually every product is now marked with that familiar UPC barcode. And there are three embedded numbers on every UPC barcode.

What are the three hidden numbers?:
YOU GUESSED IT! 666!... they start the code, mark the middle, and they finish the code (stop).

All of the marks, or bars are associated with numbers at the bottom, except the marks at the first, middle, and end. Notice the marks for the number "6" are "||". And these marks are the same marks at the first, in the middle and at the end!

There are basically two forms of UPC symbols:  
1- Those that have two sets of five numerals written at the base: The UPC symbol begins with a six (in the bar code, not the numbers underneath), has a six in the center, and ends with a six: 6,6,6. (this is the most used).
2- Those that have one set of six numerals written at the base. The UPC symbol also begins with a six, but it ends with two sixes (three thin lines encode two sixes, sharing the middle line): 6,66

Something else mysterious has appeared. In the last few years, some UPC codes have appeared with additional boxes underneath the bar code. Beside the boxes are 2 letters - the letter F and the letter H! Can you figure out what the "F" and "H" stand for............?

3- A Universal Identification Number, with Social Security:

At least 15 high schools in New York City are participating in a pilot program using bar- coded identification and scanners to "keep careful tabs on the students"

In 1935, the Social Security program was enacted as a simple retirement system to be funded by payroll contributions. But in 1974, the Senate Finance Committee voted to issue a Social Security card to every child entering the first grade. Time magazine of March 13, 1972, commenting on the action said, (p.16) "Such a system would further enable the Government to amass information on citizens and STORE IT IN A CENTRAL COMPUTER UNDER A SINGLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER." Then in 1989, a law was passed that every child, over two-years of age, must have a Social Security number to qualify as a dependent on tax returns. Now a program has been implemented, that when the baby is born, the hospital will automatically apply for the social security number! The name of the program — ENUMERATION AT BIRTH! To Enumerate means to "ASSIGN A NUMBER!"

5- Biometrics Devices:

Fingerprints, DNA, Eye Scanners, retinal readers, voice recognition systems, signature dynamics...

There is a face recognition device you can hook up to your personal computer, and throw away your passwords, because your computer knows it is you. They have a little scanner for your fingerprint that does the same thing. It's called BioMouse.

There's a "Programmable Tattoo" they put under your wrist that is actually an LCD display panel that can serve as a watch to tell the time, or give reports on your vital functions like blood pressure or insulin count: anything you need to know about yourself. The people who have the patents on this are from a company called Interval Research Corporation. You probably have not heard of them. They are very secretive. They're thinking one, two, five years down the road, all the things they are developing will be put into service.

2- A Spiritual Mark:

    1- The sign of love or hate in your mind, or generosity or avarice in your hands...
It is well known that the Jews or Blacks or Immigrants, have been unable to buy or sell anything at different times and places, just for being Jews, Blacks, Immigrants...
The Blacks had the mark of the color of their skin, but many Jews and Immigrants had no apparent special mark, except that they were well recognized in the stores, busses, buying and selling companies...
It is obvious that every man and woman has a spiritual mark, as a good person or a bad one... but often it is hard to be recognized at first sight, or when you buy or sell from a Catalogue or the Internet... is got to be also a "physical mark"!.

    2- The Adventists claim the "Mark" is the worshiping either on Sunday or Saturday: For them, to worship on Saturday is the Mark of God, and to worship on Sunday is the Mark of the Beast, and consequently, for the Adventists, all 2 billion Christians have already the Mark of the Beast, Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox... all of them except of course the 6 million of Adventists,  the Jehovah's Witnesses, an the Jews.
It is curious that all Adventists follow this rule following the teachings of the Bible... how come at least one Adventist don't read the Bible like the other 2 billion Christians?: It is because they read the Bible as they are taught by their leaders... and if someone disagrees, he is thrown out of their church!... they have no Pope, but they have most strict "little popes"!.
Otherwise, this "mark" would be hard to recognize when an Adventist goes to buy or sell to any store or company in other neighborhood or city... it is hard to imagine the owner of the store asking, are you an Adventist, or a Christian, or a Communist, or....................
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 03:45:29 PM »

666 is the number of the name of the Antichrist...
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2004, 11:11:08 PM »

666 is the number of the name of the Antichrist...
You're getting close !

And, the Bible says that the anti-christ is here right now, in todays world.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2004, 11:43:51 PM »

666 is the number of the name of the Antichrist...
You're getting close !

And, the Bible says that the anti-christ is here right now, in todays world.
SS your right he is, some where in the world.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2004, 11:37:52 AM »

666 is the number of the name of the Antichrist...
You're getting close !

And, the Bible says that the anti-christ is here right now, in todays world.
SS your right he is, some where in the world.
Not only does the Bible tell who it is...but where in the world they are, right now.
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