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[Shammu]

You could hardly find a school in America that wasn't Christian based with the Bible as its main text book until the 1830's. That was when a humanist named Horace Mann worked for ten years to deceive the state of Massachusetts to produce its own state supported schools and leave the Bible out of those schools. As a result of the attack upon children learning the truths of God and Salvation, the American Sunday School League was formed during that same decade so those children who were deprived could still get Bible knowledge.

During the next hundred years humanism grew bolder in its attack against the founding fathers ideas of education and more and more schools omitted the Bible. Fewer and fewer remembered the exhortations of those men who established this nation to follow Christ and give Christian teaching in the schools, as the backbone and main course of our schools. p>

The ax has been laid to the very roots of our Constitution. The Supreme Court now makes laws. Not only does it make laws, it overthrows those which have existed for generations upon generations of Americans and calls them unconstitutional. Why? Because of the new morality that says, the end justifies the means, and if it seems good do it. And no man stood strong enough to stop that encroachment when it happened. The Founders would have denied what the Warren Court did on the grounds of Treason. Why Treason? Because the Founders believed that whosoever attacked the strength and education of Christianity attacked this great nation which was founded on the principles of Christianity. It's OK to exercise free speech on the streets if one wants to attack Christianity, but it is High Treason for a judge to throw down laws that were established to protect Christian education according to individual faith of Americans.

The Socialist minded judges took a bold stroke at our roots and they got away with it. No one impeached them for Treason. Under the power of Mass Media, the public was given opium of "it's all for the good of the nation", and they sat back in their false humility and failed to stand up for Right.
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U.S.A. IDENTIFIED BY THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

The Declaration of Independence appeals to God no less than three times. Four to those who can see His Name in the phrase "protection of divine providence". Five to those who can admit the phrase "created equal" means created by God, not evolved from chaos.

Contrary to what is currently taught at most federal and state schools, Samuel Adams pointed out this strong lesson which is contradicted in courts today: "Before the formation of this Constitution...this Declaration of Independence was received and ratified by all the States in the Union and has NEVER been disannuled."

The Declaration and the Constitution were viewed as inseparable and interdependent documents. The Declaration of Independence appeals to God no less than three times. The men who wrote it declared within it their undying faith towards God for all generations to see and follow.

The Articles of Incorporation call the entity into existence and the By-laws then explain how it will be governed. Therefore the governing of the corporation under its by-laws must always be within the purposes and framework set forth in its Articles. The By-laws may neither nullify nor supersede the Articles. The Constitution neither abolished nor replaced what the Declaration had established; it only provided the specific details of how American government would operate under the principles set forth in the Declaration.

PROOF of the Declaration being attached to the Constitution is found in Article VII. The Constitution attaches itself to the Declaration by dating itself as being signed in the twelfth year of the independence of the United States of America! Now that proves the founding fathers considered themselves to have been living in the USA for twelve years under the government document of the Declaration of Independence. Not only was the Constitution dated in recognition of the Declaration of Independence, also the later government acts were dated from the Independence of the United States of America.

"The Jubilee of the Constitution" by John Quincy Adams explains the Constitution as dependent upon the virtues proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence. That's why the Ten Commandments are inscribed in stone on the Supreme Court building. Those men saw the law of God as the basis of all law for all men always, never to be changed! How can we withhold God and His truth from our educational classrooms for children today? One Nation Under God. United we stand together with Christ.

They erected a beacon to guide their children, and their children's children: for all men who would pursue life, liberty, and happiness...they pointed us to God and to His Son Jesus Christ. They desired that their posterity might look again to the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew that battle which their fathers began, so that truth, justice, mercy, and all Christian virtue not be extinguished from the schools of this land.

If anyone has taught you doctrines conflicting with the light shining through our Declaration of Independence, come back to the truths that were written then for you to see again now.

President Abraham Lincoln reminded the nation of that great truth contained in the Declaration of Independence when he said, "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

SUPREME COURT decision of 1897: Constitution is the body and letter of which the Declaration of Independence is the thought and the spirit, and it is always safe to read the letter of the Constitution in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence.

Our government exists to protect the Constitutional rights of the people. Those rights are protected by the Constitution and its Amendments as the law of the land. Only the people have the incontestable, unalienable, unencroachable right to change the laws which they have established. The elected and appointed officials may not change the law of the Constitution, neither can the courts change the law. Not even the Supreme Court can change any law. Courts only judge situations to which the law applies. Courts may not judge the law.

Not the courts, not the officials, not even the Supreme Court, have the incontestable, unalienable, and unremoveable right to change the law of the land. Only the people. They do it through their elected officials of the many states. But for such power to make laws to exist in the hands of a few appointed men, untouchable by the people, that is the exact thing our Founders denied. They set up the Constitution so only Congress should have the power to make laws, and Congress is elected by the people. Therefore Congress reflects the will of the people. Judges should only apply the law of the people, not make law for the people to follow. Judges are to follow the law of the people.

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[TWalker]

JudgeNot:

I have never in my life been on this forum before. If I remind you of someone, I can understand you suspecting I *might* be that person, but all I can do is assure you I am not. This is the second time today I have been accused of falsehood, on no evidence whatsoever. I am beginning to think this is not a very friendly place.

As far as whose civil rights the ACLU defends, I've already said several times I think some of their cases are defending the rights of the truly represhensible. That has no bearing on whether they are anti-Christian.

and I confess confusion as to your question "TW - Just what IS IS?" what are you talking about?

and my only agenda is the truth. I'd like to know it. I'd like some help. I'm getting flamed and false accusations hurled at me.

TWalker is my real name, btw. I am Tracy Walker, and whatever my many faults, I do not lie.

Taken at Truth's value (which rules all)!
Thanks, Tracy.
God bless!
 
Jim

well, thank you, I think - I still don't know what happened to your original post, and I don't know what "is is" means, but I'm too tired to even think right now so I'm going to bed.

[TWalker]

Corporate Holdings International ......  an interesting web site.

one last post before I go to sleep - I didn't have the faintest idea what you were referring to here, but my husband recognized the name. That's a site my son, a web and flash developer, did. We're thinking you must have done an ip lookup to find that. Its also not the site the ip is supposed to resolve to, so he's fixing that.

[Shammu]

well, thank you, I think - I still don't know what happened to your original post, and I don't know what "is is" means, but I'm too tired to even think right now so I'm going to bed.

Good night, I'll await your answers to what I posted then tomorrow!

Resting in the arms, of the Lord.
Bob

Psalm 91:4 [Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler.

[nChrist]

Dreamweaver,

Brother, thanks for the effort, but you know that you didn't even scratch the surface. It would take several massive mainframes to document the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-American activities of the ACLU. The computers would probably gag and throw up.  

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I think that our ACLU salesmen either came together or are the same person. What do you think? I was just laughing and thinking: trying to sell the ACLU to a bunch of Christians would be like trying to sell swimming lessons at the North Pole.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 139:4 NASB  Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

[Shammu]

Dreamweaver,

Brother, thanks for the effort, but you know that you didn't even scratch the surface. It would take several massive mainframes to document the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-American activities of the ACLU. The computers would probably gag and throw up.  

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I think that our ACLU salesmen either came together or are the same person. What do you think? I was just laughing and thinking: trying to sell the ACLU to a bunch of Christians would be like trying to sell swimming lessons at the North Pole.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 139:4 NASB  Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

You know whats really funny...... all of a sudden we now have 2 Walkers, D.& T. In about the amount of time it takes to open a new account, mail and forum.

This is who is on right now;
DreamWeaver, blackeyedpeas, Pastor Rogercris, DWalker, TWalker

Hmmm, something is very fishy here now.
Bob

1 Chronicles 16:36 Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, forever and ever! And all the people said Amen! and praised the Lord.

[cris]

Dreamweaver,

Brother, thanks for the effort, but you know that you didn't even scratch the surface. It would take several massive mainframes to document the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-American activities of the ACLU. The computers would probably gag and throw up.  

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I think that our ACLU salesmen either came together or are the same person. What do you think? I was just laughing and thinking: trying to sell the ACLU to a bunch of Christians would be like trying to sell swimming lessons at the North Pole.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 139:4 NASB  Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

You know whats really funny...... all of a sudden we now have 2 Walkers, D.& T. In about the amount of time it takes to open a new account, mail and forum.

This is who is on right now;
DreamWeaver, blackeyedpeas, Pastor Rogercris, DWalker, TWalker

Hmmm, something is very fishy here now.
Bob

1 Chronicles 16:36 Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, forever and ever! And all the people said Amen! and praised the Lord.

It must be the other's spouse!  

[Soldier4Christ]

A set or multiple personalities??

[JudgeNot]

good night, John Boy.



 

 

[Soldier4Christ]

Goodnight Jim Bob. Oh thats right thats two separate people on this forum.  

[nChrist]

They would have to be two separate people because they have the SAME IP.

       

[Shammu]

They would have to be two separate people because they have the SAME IP.

       

Split personalities?    

Or are they

[cris]

They would have to be two separate people because they have the SAME IP.

       

Split personalities?    

Or are they

Maybe it's a new fitness craze.  They were WALKERS, you know!

[Shammu]

They would have to be two separate people because they have the SAME IP.

       

Split personalities?    

Or are they

Maybe it's a new fitness craze.  They were WALKERS, you know!

*spew*

So much for that cup of coffee!

DWalker TWalker Twins separted at birth?

[Simonline]

Interesting post. Let us not forget however, that 'Biblical Communism' is based upon voluntary participation at every level ['God loves a cheerful giver'] and never social or political coercion, as is usually the case with Humanistic Communism (as history bears witness). Annanias and Saphira (Acts.5) were judged, not for witholding what was theirs to withold (thereby indicating that Christianity is not fundamentally against private ownership) but for witholding some of the proceeds from the sale of their property and then lying in order to deceive the Church into believing that they were contributing all of the proceeds from the sale into the communal purse.

Simonline.

I refer more to the communistic precepts in Acts, but the point is indeed valid that Biblical, or Christian, communism is very different from the communism we refer to today. My points were 1) Christians supported communism (and even Marxism, it seems!) at various points in history, so without something more on the beliefs of the two individuals quoted I cannot say this proves they are anti Christian or anti religious, and 2) Whether they were or not has no direct bearing on the question at hand - is the ACLU the supporter of everyone's civil rights, without discrimination, or are they anti-Christian ("bent on destroying God", I think someone said.) Maligning the founders, now dust, does not prove satisfactorily to me that the ACLU is anything but a defender of civil liberties for all.

Personally, I think your quest for the truth based on factual evidence rather than unsubstantiated hearsay is admirable. Wish that all Christians would operate according to such principles.

Simonline.