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Soldier4Christ
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:31:22 PM »
Quote from: Sleeker on January 22, 2005, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 11:11:54 AM
Pastor Roger don't waste your time with this guy. Just look at the rest of his posts here, he's no Christian.
This wannabe future astrophysicist is a troll - there's no doubt in my mind that there's no mind in his doubt.
Ahh... I must've missed this post. I'm Christian, and have been my whole life. I don't get what my wanting to be an astrophysicist has to do with anything. I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to gain a better understanding of the Protestant beliefs. I'm also trying to represent those who have no other representatives (like Mormonism in the other thread,
of which I'm a part of,
and evolution in a different thread, which I do believe, but I try to show how it fits with the Bible).
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I'm both an evolutionist, and a Christian
(not of the Mormon sect either)
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:38:15 PM »
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 12:31:22 PM
Yes...? Is there a problem with being a Christian evolutionist? (Hint: There isn't.) I won't get into evidence for evolution, I'll just try to convince people that it is compatible.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:38:43 PM »
Quote from: Sleeker on January 22, 2005, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 11:11:54 AM
Pastor Roger don't waste your time with this guy. Just look at the rest of his posts here, he's no Christian.
This wannabe future astrophysicist is a troll - there's no doubt in my mind that there's no mind in his doubt.
Ahh... I must've missed this post. I'm Christian, and have been my whole life. I don't get what my wanting to be an astrophysicist has to do with anything. I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to gain a better understanding of the Protestant beliefs. I'm also trying to represent those who have no other representatives (like Mormonism in the other thread, of which I'm a part of, and evolution in a different thread, which I do believe, but I try to show how it fits with the Bible).
So, now your a Mormon huh?
There is only one Truth my friend and if you refuse to acknowledge Him and follow only Him you will condemn yourself to eternal fire. It's not pretty, but it's what God has warned us about my friend. There is only one Holy Bible - if you accept anything else, you will walk willingly into the pit of dispair - it will be of your own choosing my friend, so don't blame God, He has clearly warned us all, we either obey Him or we chose our own destiny...Hellfire.
Told you he wasn't a Christian.
Mat 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:42:59 PM »
Sleeker quote...
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I'm both an evolutionist, and a Christian
(not of the Mormon sect either)
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Not of the Mormon sect huh?
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like Mormonism in the other thread, of which I'm a part of,
This is confusing. Are you saying that you are part of the Mormons, or are you trying to say you are a participant of the "mormon thread)?
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:46:14 PM »
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
So, now your a Mormon huh?
I said, "I'm also trying to represent those who have no other representatives (like Mormonism in the other thread, of which I'm a part of..." Sorry if that was confusing, but that means I'm part of the thread. I worded that poorly, but if you've listened to me in other posts, you would've already have known I'm not Mormon.
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
There is only one Truth my friend and if you refuse to acknowledge Him and follow only Him you will condemn yourself to eternal fire. It's not pretty, but it's what God has warned us about my friend. There is only one Holy Bible - if you accept anything else, you will walk willingly into the pit of dispair - it will be of your own choosing my friend, so don't blame God, He has clearly warned us all, we either obey Him or we chose our own destiny...Hellfire.
I thought only God knows the Truth. We can't understand all of God's works. Surely you're not comparing yourself to him?
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
Told you he wasn't a Christian.
Yet, you are wrong.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:49:51 PM »
Bronze,
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Told you he wasn't a Christian.
This was evident from the start. Christians wouldn't have asked such questions. They would already know those answers.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 12:55:21 PM »
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 12:49:51 PM
This was evident from the start. Christians wouldn't have asked such questions. They would already know those answers.
All right, now you're just being ignorant and ignoring the facts.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 01:01:32 PM »
Quote from: Sleeker on January 22, 2005, 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 12:49:51 PM
This was evident from the start. Christians wouldn't have asked such questions. They would already know those answers.
All right, now you're just being ignorant and ignoring the facts.
I am not being ignorant. The truth is one of the questions you asked was about Salvation. A Christian would have known the answer because the answer is what it takes to become a Christian.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 01:01:32 PM
I am not being ignorant. The truth is one of the questions you asked was about Salvation. A Christian would have known the answer because the answer is what it takes to become a Christian.
I was wondering about the finer points in the Protestant stance of salvation. I got them. The main thing I was wondering was if there is an exception to some non-Christians for salvation. You said there was
no exception
. I believe that's just discriminating against them, in fact, a form of bigotry in my opinion, and is used as a threat to try and convince conversion.
Anyways, I'm a Christian. It's that simple.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 01:19:16 PM »
Quote from: Sleeker on January 22, 2005, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 12:31:22 PM
Yes...? Is there a problem with being a Christian evolutionist? (Hint: There isn't.) I won't get into evidence for evolution, I'll just try to convince people that it is compatible.
No it isn't compatable, The
Bible
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Evolution
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 01:33:16 PM »
Sleeker quote...
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I thought only God knows the Truth. We can't understand all of God's works. Surely you're not comparing yourself to him?
You know...Maybe you'd better look toward some other profession...This astrophysicist thingy isn't looking too good my friend.
God hasn't hid His truth from us my friend. He actually provided us with a really neat book...it's caled the BIBLE...you really should read it, it's quite good!
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 01:34:36 PM »
Quote from: Sleeker on January 22, 2005, 01:11:42 PM
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 01:01:32 PM
I am not being ignorant. The truth is one of the questions you asked was about Salvation. A Christian would have known the answer because the answer is what it takes to become a Christian.
I was wondering about the finer points in the Protestant stance of salvation. I got them. The main thing I was wondering was if there is an exception to some non-Christians for salvation. You said there was
no exception
. I believe that's just discriminating against them, in fact, a form of bigotry in my opinion, and is used as a threat to try and convince conversion.
Anyways, I'm a Christian. It's that simple.
I'm sorry that you feel that God is a bigot.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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January 22, 2005, 04:34:22 PM »
Quote from: DreamWeaver on January 22, 2005, 01:19:16 PM
No it isn't compatable, The
Bible
teaches creation.
Evolution
, and against forum rules. Which you need to read.
All I'll say is that is your interpretation of it, not mine.
Quote from: DreamWeaver on January 22, 2005, 01:19:16 PM
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All right, all right. I've read the rules and no where does it specifically mention evolution, but instead mentions stuff about the Bible, which is subject to individual interpretation. I'd add evolution in there somewhere, so that nobody else gets the idea that you can talk about it. Anyways, I'll stop talking about evolution.
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 01:33:16 PM
You know...Maybe you'd better look toward some other profession...This astrophysicist thingy isn't looking too good my friend.
I actually think astrophysics is a great field for me to go into.
Quote from: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 01:33:16 PM
God hasn't hid His truth from us my friend. He actually provided us with a really neat book...it's caled the BIBLE...you really should read it, it's quite good!
So, what's the truth about the meaning of life?
Quote from: Pastor Roger on January 22, 2005, 01:34:36 PM
I'm sorry that you feel that God is a bigot.
He is not, but if he bases salvation on being a Christian who believes in Jesus as the Son of God, or to a harsher degree, only Protestants, and not being inherently good, then I've lost some (not most) respect of him.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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He is not, but if he bases salvation on being a Christian who believes in Jesus as the Son of God, or to a harsher degree, only Protestants, and not being inherently good, then I've lost some (not most) respect of him.
Do you get some kind of bizarre thrill coming to a Christian web site and pretending to be a Christian? It's painfully clear to all that you are a fraud my friend. You haven't got the first clue as to what Christianity is all about.
On the other hand, I'd like to retract something I implied about you not being smart enough to be an astrophysicist...judging by the conclusions they draw such as the big bang theory, I'd say your intelligence level is low enough to include you into the profession.
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Re:Faith and Deeds?
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He is not, but if he bases salvation on being a Christian who believes in Jesus as the Son of God, or to a harsher degree, only Protestants, and not being inherently good, then I've lost some (not most) respect of him.
Denominations (Protestant or elsewise) is not the key here. Denominations is something that man has come up with, teaching various doctrines and not necessarily the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. The Doctrine of Jesus Christ is what counts. No matter how hard we try we, while in the flesh, cannot be good enough to enter into heaven.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
I said before It takes more than just believing in you must also believe on.
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
I hope and pray for your sake that your respect for Him increases and not decreases.
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