Speaking in Tongues

[Sulfurdolphin]

 Hi Pastor Rogers I got it from a website

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.roz/God/prayer/tongues.html

At the end it says the Author used the King James Version.

The link is not working to look at the online version for King James.

I do know that most versions say ( I WISH) instead of
( I WANT)

Michael

[Soldier4Christ]

The KJV says, in full:

1Co 14:5  I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


It has nothing to do with want, And as the rest of the sentence tells us Paul would rather that we were able to prophesy. For isn't it better to do what is of benefit to all and not just one?

[headbowed2him]

"If you do nto understand it, please do not attack it but instead educate yourself."
                                    -My message to every conservative   Christian I have ever met

[Jemidon2004]

If you want to do something that's not of God, quit now, because you'll be miserable"

If you want to try to learn a gift of God quit now, because different gifts are given to different people so they can minister effectively in His kingdom, not to waste time trying to learn a gift one does not have

-my message to every liberal Christian who may not take the time to do the in-depth study of doctrine

 
Joshua

[headbowed2him]

Doctrine: The cause of insiquition, the crusades, the witch trials, Christ's death, and even the modern church refusing healings.
Take note: I am a liberal Christian, not a Liberal Demorcrat (just in case I confused you)
Oh and yes, you are right you can not learn any gift.  Nor can any but the Holy Spirit give any gift.
But once given you can learn how to use it and follow it with faith.

BUT to refuse any gift is to refuse God's presence and/or the accuracy of  his word.
(Because his word plainly says it)

[Joey]

How refreshing it has been to read these posts on tongues. I have had many disagreements with Christians over the years on this gift, Christians who believe that once we are born again, speaking in Tongues is evidence of this.
As so many of you have already mentioned, it is One of many gifts. If we all had the same gifts where would the body be? We all have different gifts which when placed together makes up the body of Christ. As Paul said himself in 1 Corinthians 12, all Christians with there individual gifts make up the body.
I feel that many in today's church are believing and teaching others that if you do not speak in Tongues then something is missing in your walk with the Lord.

Do i speak in tongues? No i don't

Does it worry me? Not in the slightest. If God was going to bless me with this particular gift, he would have done so.

Do i feel any less saved? I'll let you guess the answer to that one  

God Bless
Joey

[Soldier4Christ]

How refreshing it has been to read these posts on tongues. I have had many disagreements with Christians over the years on this gift, Christians who believe that once we are born again, speaking in Tongues is evidence of this.
As so many of you have already mentioned, it is One of many gifts. If we all had the same gifts where would the body be? We all have different gifts which when placed together makes up the body of Christ. As Paul said himself in 1 Corinthians 12, all Christians with there individual gifts make up the body.
I feel that many in today's church are believing and teaching others that if you do not speak in Tongues then something is missing in your walk with the Lord.

Do i speak in tongues? No i don't

Does it worry me? Not in the slightest. If God was going to bless me with this particular gift, he would have done so.

Do i feel any less saved? I'll let you guess the answer to that one  

God Bless
Joey

Well said. I do not speak in tongues either. This does not mean that in some future situation that we won't do so. It is up to Him and what suits His needs at the time.

It is when a person seeks and tries to practice a gift that was not truly given to them (mostly as a show to other people that "Look at me, I'm saved because I speak in tongues" attitude) that it becomes against scriptural teachings. If  it doesn't suit the purpose of God then it isn't of God. That is the reason God through the Holy Spirit gives us special gifts, that we may serve Him better, not to better serve ourselves.

[Allinall]

How refreshing it has been to read these posts on tongues. I have had many disagreements with Christians over the years on this gift, Christians who believe that once we are born again, speaking in Tongues is evidence of this.
As so many of you have already mentioned, it is One of many gifts. If we all had the same gifts where would the body be? We all have different gifts which when placed together makes up the body of Christ. As Paul said himself in 1 Corinthians 12, all Christians with there individual gifts make up the body.
I feel that many in today's church are believing and teaching others that if you do not speak in Tongues then something is missing in your walk with the Lord.

Do i speak in tongues? No i don't

Does it worry me? Not in the slightest. If God was going to bless me with this particular gift, he would have done so.

Do i feel any less saved? I'll let you guess the answer to that one  

God Bless
Joey

Well said. I do not speak in tongues either. This does not mean that in some future situation that we won't do so. It is up to Him and what suits His needs at the time.

It is when a person seeks and tries to practice a gift that was not truly given to them (mostly as a show to other people that "Look at me, I'm saved because I speak in tongues" attitude) that it becomes against scriptural teachings. If  it doesn't suit the purpose of God then it isn't of God. That is the reason God through the Holy Spirit gives us special gifts, that we may serve Him better, not to better serve ourselves.

Amen!  To you too Joshua!  

[gary cook]

As for many things of the SPIRIT of vGOD .I have went though long periods of noy understanding .Now ?I was always carful not to judge these things .But none of them have anything to do with salvation ?Except being bORN AGAIN . WE MUST HAVE ! But I would say ,seek all the TRUTH you can ?ASK the HOLY SPIRIT to reveal all too YOU .AS this is part of HIS MAIN JOB ON EARTH .AND HE GLADLY WILL SHOW YOU THIS .AND ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH THAT IS GOOD .HE WILL WITH HOLD ?NOTHING GOOD FROM YOU .HE IS SO VALUABLE .beyond what YOU MAY understand .Can teach you anything or show you anything !I know this to be TRUE .

[felix102]

amen

gary, can you share with us how you know this to be true? I would like to hear if it is not too much trouble for you.

[gary cook]

Tongues are real .There are different kinds .Very dangerous to judge the HOLY SPIRIT and the WORK ,HE does .We judge quickly and in some cases very foolishly .It is better to say nothing as to judge ,Wrong .For sure of the things of the HOLY SPIRIT

[Jesusinme]

My friend shared a testimony with me about the gift of tounges. She was street witnessing and was met with a woman who spoke spanish, all of a sudden my friend was sharing the gospel with her in Spanish, a language she had never spoken, or has since.

[gary cook]

well felix .I have taken jobs ,I knew nothing about .HE TAUGHT me so good .Others thought I went to coolege .I have had things taken .HE has led me to it and given it back and revealed who took it .HE has healed me many times .HE has revealed the TRUTH TO ME .And tells me things I need to know .SO many things .HIS JOB ON EARTH IS TO TEACH US EVERYTHING WE WILL LET HIM AND TO LIFT OF JESUS CHRIST .ALSO WE RECIEVE ALL THE SPIRITUAL GIFTS FROM HIM .
AND I WOULD SAY ?GOD HAS NO BAD GIFTS !SEEK ALL YOU CAN RECIEVE .BECAUSE this is the problem ?WE DO NOT SEEK and tell the HOLY SPIRIT we desire all HE HAS FOR US .BECAUSE we must open my mouth and tell HIM ?WE WILL RECIEVE .THEN BELIEVE .HE WILL FORCE NOTHING ON YOU .YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ACCEPT .HE SPEAKS TO US IN OUR MIND .BECAUSE being a spirit ?and us being a spirit .THIS IS THE WAY .WE RECIEVE AND UNDERSTAND .WE ARE CONFUSED ?THINKING THE FLESH is more than it is .JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SPIRIT !NOT OUR FLESH .OUR FLESH IS NOT EVEN A FRIEND TO JESUS CHRIST .IT IS A TOOL FOR US TO CONTROL OUR SOUL IS OUR MIND .IT MUST BE TAUGHT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO RECIEVE THE THINGS OF GODS SPIRIT .BUT YOU JUST ASK AND BELIEVE .YOU WILL RECIEVE ?ANYTHING GOOD .HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ON THIS EARTH AND HEAVEN .THESE ARE YOURS TO KNOW .WHEN YOU CAN RECIEVE THEM .YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE TAUGHT OF ANY MAN .YOUR FATHER WILL GLADLY TEACH YOU .BECAUSE THE JUST LIVE BY FAITH .WE ARE MUCH MORE THAN WE KNOW ?BUT WE ARE BABYS AT 1ST ?THEN GROW IN THE LORD as when we were babys in the flesh .HE CAN NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING AT ONCE .YOU COULD NOT HANDLE IT .THERE IS MUCH TO SAY ?BUT THIS IS A GOOD START ?

[Brother Love]

THE CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT – THEN AND NOW

http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1377

[felix102]

well felix .I have taken jobs ,I knew nothing about .HE TAUGHT me so good .Others thought I went to coolege .I have had things taken .HE has led me to it and given it back and revealed who took it .HE has healed me many times .HE has revealed the TRUTH TO ME .And tells me things I need to know .SO many things .HIS JOB ON EARTH IS TO TEACH US EVERYTHING WE WILL LET HIM AND TO LIFT OF JESUS CHRIST .ALSO WE RECIEVE ALL THE SPIRITUAL GIFTS FROM HIM .
AND I WOULD SAY ?GOD HAS NO BAD GIFTS !SEEK ALL YOU CAN RECIEVE .BECAUSE this is the problem ?WE DO NOT SEEK and tell the HOLY SPIRIT we desire all HE HAS FOR US .BECAUSE we must open my mouth and tell HIM ?WE WILL RECIEVE .THEN BELIEVE .HE WILL FORCE NOTHING ON YOU .YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ACCEPT .HE SPEAKS TO US IN OUR MIND .BECAUSE being a spirit ?and us being a spirit .THIS IS THE WAY .WE RECIEVE AND UNDERSTAND .WE ARE CONFUSED ?THINKING THE FLESH is more than it is .JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SPIRIT !NOT OUR FLESH .OUR FLESH IS NOT EVEN A FRIEND TO JESUS CHRIST .IT IS A TOOL FOR US TO CONTROL OUR SOUL IS OUR MIND .IT MUST BE TAUGHT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO RECIEVE THE THINGS OF GODS SPIRIT .BUT YOU JUST ASK AND BELIEVE .YOU WILL RECIEVE ?ANYTHING GOOD .HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ON THIS EARTH AND HEAVEN .THESE ARE YOURS TO KNOW .WHEN YOU CAN RECIEVE THEM .YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE TAUGHT OF ANY MAN .YOUR FATHER WILL GLADLY TEACH YOU .BECAUSE THE JUST LIVE BY FAITH .WE ARE MUCH MORE THAN WE KNOW ?BUT WE ARE BABYS AT 1ST ?THEN GROW IN THE LORD as when we were babys in the flesh .HE CAN NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING AT ONCE .YOU COULD NOT HANDLE IT .THERE IS MUCH TO SAY ?BUT THIS IS A GOOD START ?

Amen Gary.

There is no doubt the Holy Spirit is at work in you.


Brother Love,
I went to that link. I disagree with it. I implore you to not find MANs' work absolute. Just because something is written in a well established article does not make it absolutely true. The author was a man so why do you regard it differently to any other man's comment? Humans can make mistakes. This is when we lean on our own understandings.

In that article the author is trying to compromise things of today with the things in the past using references to the bible -ALL THE WHILE IGNORING CONTEXTS FROM THE VERSES HE QUOTES (such as Cor 13:. This is the prime example of someone leaning on their own understanding...trying to reconcile the word with what they believe. I cannot judge the entire work, but from this alone I think this is right to say.

I know you are concerned with truth in the word; that is a very good intent. But brother, even the KJV and every single bible version out there is translated by MAN. There is debate over which manuscripts were translated and how smart the men that translated them were (KJV has arguably been translated by the best competant men and best manuscripts), but it is and ONLY is the Holy Spirit who teaches us the things from God. Jesus did not leave us as orphans, He gave us the Holy Spirit! Rightly dividing the word is accomplished when the word is rightly divided by the Holy Spirit. God bless.

Immanuel! God is with us. I pray that God will reveal his will to us.