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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2003, 05:20:43 PM »

Romans 6:1.  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
 2.  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
 3.  Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
 4.  Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
 5.  For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
 6.  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
 7.  For he that is dead is freed from sin.
 8.  Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
 9.  Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
 10.  For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
 11.  Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 12.  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
 13.  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
 14.  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
 15.  What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
 16.  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
 17.  But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
 18.  Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
 19.  I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
 20.  For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
 21.  What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
 22.  But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

 23.  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2003, 05:33:32 PM »

Romans 7

1   Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2   For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3   So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4   Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5   For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6   But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7   What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8   But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9   For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10   And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11   For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12   Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13   Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14   For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15   For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16   If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17   Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18   For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19   For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20   Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21   I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22   For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23   But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24   O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25   I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.


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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2003, 05:35:40 PM »

 Romans10:13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
 14.  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
 15.  And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
 16.  But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
 17.  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


Faith is obedience to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. One must hear it and believe it. This is obedience.

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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2003, 05:38:58 PM »

Galatians 5:4.  Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
 5.  For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
 6.  For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
 7.  Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2003, 06:24:15 PM »

To obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is to believe it!


To not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is either because of ignorance of it. not heard it, or it is heard and not believed.
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2003, 07:34:04 PM »

 Romans 16:25.  Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
 26.  But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
 27.  To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2003, 10:02:23 PM »

It sounds like this subject has gone off on another tangent, but....

Excellent.

Actually Rom 5

19  For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


Says it all............

His obedience is imputed unto us for righteousnes.

So believeing the words Jesus spoke on behalf of the Father, is actually believing the Father's Word.

Man can trust and obey the truth, but he does not produce faith to believe of himself.

It is the Word of God, which is;

powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12

This precept is built upon this other precept;

Isa 55
11  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The Word of God will produce results, when heard by them whom God gives hearing, Jesus said;

Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
  (Mk 4:11-12)


Blessings

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To emphasize the point that Paul BELIEVED his righteousness was imputed to him, this is what he wrote concerning it;

Phil 3
9  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:


Blessings


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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2003, 10:11:52 PM »

To obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is to believe it!


To not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is either because of ignorance of it. not heard it, or it is heard and not believed.

ollie,

Can you reference these two verses you quoted, herein??


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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2003, 03:54:03 PM »

To obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is to believe it!


To not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ is either because of ignorance of it. not heard it, or it is heard and not believed.

ollie,

Can you reference these two verses you quoted, herein??


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These are not verses from the bible, but rather a summation of the verses, given previously, from the Bible
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2003, 06:34:18 PM »

Ollie,  

Thanks, just checking...

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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2003, 07:31:09 PM »

Acts 5:17.  Then the high priest rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and were filled with indignation,
 18.  And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison.
 19.  But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said,
 20.  Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life.
 21.  And when they heard that, they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.
 22.  But when the officers came, and found them not in the prison, they returned, and told,
 23.  Saying, The prison truly found we shut with all safety, and the keepers standing without before the doors: but when we had opened, we found no man within.
 24.  Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.
 25.  Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people.
 26.  Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.
 27.  And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
 28.  Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
 29.  Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

 30.  The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
 31.  Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 32.  And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2003, 07:49:33 PM »

Faith is obedience:

 Hebrews 11:8.  By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

2 Corinthians  10:4.  (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
 5.  Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;




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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2003, 01:42:48 PM »

Matthew 7:21.  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2003, 07:06:06 PM »

 Matthew 28:20.  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2003, 07:21:54 PM »

Genesis 22:18.  And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


 Romans 1:3.  Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
 4.  And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
 5. By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
 6.  Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
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