The Second Beast of Revelation 13 - Abu Mazen

[ephraim]

The Second beast of Revelation 13- Abu Mazen


Why would anybody need to know or care about knowing who the beast and the false prophet are? The first thought that comes to mind is that they would not want to unwittingly take the mark of the beast, Rev. 13:16. I hear and see all the time people talking about the mark and wondering what it is. The most common idea as to what the mark is in the Christian community is some sort of computer chip. This chip is somehow supposed to promote worship of the beast and also allow you to buy and sell. Without the mark a person is basically sentenced to death. I have also searched for what the mark could be for many many years. Therefore, it is essential that you know who the first beast is so you can determine exactly what the mark is. The number 666 in the bible literally means mark. Could the number be relevant? Possibly, but not likely. This mark stands for a specific individual.



The majority of Christian teachers say the beast has not appeared and a person will not know who the beast is prior to the rapture of the church. Therefore, it is wrong to look for him because it is not relevant to a Christian. One may speculate as to his identity but since Israel has not made a covenant with the anti-christ the seven year tribulation has not begun. This seven year time frame has been misinterpreted and caused many to be confused. Not that seven years don’t exist concerning the covenant, but the problem is where they fit in the chronology.



The beast of Revelation 13:1 is said to have seven heads and ten horns. The ten horns are ten kings Rev. 17:12. The seven heads are seven mountains Rev. 17:9. These kings shall have power with the beast and give their power and strength to him for one hour. Who would argue that the beast nations of Rev: 13 do not exist today and that for a person to know who they are one must be in heaven or raptured first. Of course we know who some of them are it is common sense. Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran to name just a few. The problem with the interpretation of Rev. 13 is what the seven heads are. Many have said that they are hills that pertain to a specific city. Particularly Rome which is supposed to sit on seven hills which would somehow make the Vatican the seat of the anti-christ. Which countries in Europe do you suppose are going to attack Israel and join with the beast of Rev. 13? I'm here to say that none of them will. The only possibility is that the beast is from Europe and he leads a confederation of Muslim nations against Israel. Before I get to what are the seven heads of Rev. 13 something else must also be included here. The beast is supposed to have subdued or plucked up three of the ten kings, Dan.7. Why does the beast subdue himself or eliminate three of those who are thought to be on his side? The answer is that Rev. 13 is not only a picture of the Muslim nations but also of Israel. The three kings subdued by beast number one are from Israel. So if the beast of Rev.13 has ten kings but three are not with him that leaves seven kings who must be. If a study of the word mountains is done in the Bible a pattern will emerge. Mountains can also be a nation or nations. Therefore seven heads are seven mountains and the seven mountains of Rev. 13 are nations, Muslim nations. These seven nations are Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Jordan and Egypt. The ten kings are all the present rulers of these countries plus the three that are subdued by Arafat. These are Peres, Netanyahu and Barak. That makes ten. Arafat is the little horn, which is the eleventh, and represents the land of Palestine. Collectively these nations compose the beast of Revelation 13 with Arafat as their leader. The covenant of Daniel 9:27 was between Arafat and Rabin in Sept. 1993. It was the Oslo Accords and lasted until Sept. 2000 with the start of the Palestinian uprising. The translation of the word many in Daniel 9:27 is Rab.The three kings subdued by the beast all happened during the seven years of the Oslo Accords. It was written in Israeli newspapers that Arafat was proud to say he affected the elections in Israel three times. Every time a terrorist incident occurred the Israeli public would vote in someone else. Another parable that shows Arafat is the beast of Rev. 13 is verse 3. One of his heads is wounded to death and the deadly wound is healed. This word head refers to a nation. Seven heads are seven mountains and seven mountains are seven nations. The deadly head [Nation] wound is the land taken by Israel in the 1967 war and wanted by the Arabs for a Palestinian homeland. As land is given back to the Arabs through negotiation it is being healed. Arafat was able to operate for three in a half years and in the middle of the 7 years negotiations failed culminating in the uprising in Sept. 2000.

I used to assume like most other Christians that all verses with numbers fit within the seventieth week of Daniel. I soon learned after watching the events in Israel and reading the Bible that there may be an alternative interpretation. I fell into the same trap that scholars across time have done. The only difference between us and them is that we are living it and they were just interpreting scripture. The bottom line is the seven year period of Daniel 9:27 is over. We are now awaiting the start of Rev.12 which is very close. Once Satan is kicked out of heaven he will be a God to all those who have rejected Jesus.

Also, I would like to add that when the Lord speaks of the Abomination of Desolation in Matthew 24 he is not referring to Daniel 9:27 which is a play on words but Daniel 11 and 12. The Abomination does not fall within the 7 years of Daniel 9:27...

Back to Arafat. If you know who the first beast of Revelation is then the Second beast can be found.

Rev. 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and he spake as a dragon".

The second beast has two horns which are two kings. After the death of Arafat on Nov. 11, 2004, new elections were called. The other beast rising out of the Earth was elected Jan.9, 2005, he was Makmoud Abbas. The second horn is Abu Ala his prime minister.

Rev. 13:12 "and he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed".

Makmoud Abbas exercises all the power of Arafat and he causes them to worship him who’s deadly wound was healed. Remember the deadly wound identifies Arafat. The word worship can also be translated to honor. The following is from a campaign speech in January 2005.

"We say to our fighting brothers that are wanted by Israel, we will not rest until you can enjoy a life of security, peace, and dignity, so you can live in your country with total freedom," he said.
Abbas vowed not to rest until an independent Palestinian state was established, settlements were dismantled and Palestinian refugees were given their rights.
"The principles of Yasser Arafat, and his sayings, are his will and it is our duty to implement it," Abbas said.

Rev 13:16 ,"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand , or in their foreheads".

This brings me to the mark of the beast. If I am declaring that the second beast of Revelation 13 is Makmoud Abbas, what is his mark? The mark of the false prophet; the one who maintains the legacy of Arafat, and the second beast of Revelation happened on Election Day January 9, 2005. During the election for President of the Palestinian Authority, after a person voted, he was forced to put his right thumb in indelible ink that lasted for 48 hours to prevent double voting...Abbas was the direct cause for the indelible ink mark. It was applied to all no matter what economic status they held.

I'm sure that many will say how does this prevent them from buying and selling. This is where a concordance will help. The word buy means to gather as in gathering where people gathered in ancient times, the marketplace. The King James translated it as buy. So if you gather at a specific place what else can you do? Voting requires a person to be at a specific place also. A vote for the false prophet or the second beast will bring eternal damnation and in effect a person has sold their own soul...

Revelation 14:9-10 ..."If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb."

One other thing of interest. On August 15, 2005 Israel implemented the Disengagement plan in Gaza and the West Bank. By all accounts this looks like the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Jesus to his disciples.

It's been a long time since I have written anything. I've just been watching patiently and keeping a good record. The bottom line is this. Jesus is God and what he said was true. All others are pretenders to the throne.

The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8

[Bronzesnake]

God didn't specifically name the antichrist, the beast or the false prophet - what makes you think you can?

 As far as your explanation of the book of revelation goes - there are too many non-scriptural additions to take it seriously.

 Also, you failed to mention multiple scriptural events such as the miracles which the antichrist and his friends performed, such as raining fire from the sky - what about the temple? What happened to that? When did the daily sacrifices begin after two thousand years? When did they cease again? - You also forgot about the two witnesses who made the rain stop for two years, and devoured their enemies with fire. These two witnesses are killed by the antichrist after two and a half years, and are left in the street for all the antichrist's people to party over. The troubling thing is that these two witnesses are raised from the dead after three days. - What about the mass executions for all those who refuse to worship the image of the beast or accept his mark. - What about the massive three pronged attack by Russia, Asia, and the Arab nations which leads to such mass devastation of the attacking armies that it takes the Jews seven years to bury the dead.

 I can go on and on, but I believe I have made my point - the seven-year peace deal has not happened yet, and none of the events from revelation have either.

[Soldier4Christ]

Are you claiming to be a Watchman of Ephraim??

[ephraim]

yes

[Soldier4Christ]

The Watchman of Ephraim were prophets, so you are saying that you are a prophet?

[ephraim]

I don't personally think of myself as a prophet just someone who loves to read the Bible. ephraim

[Bronzesnake]

I don't personally think of myself as a prophet just someone who loves to read the Bible. ephraim

So...you're not claiming to be a Watchman of Ephraim?

[ephraim]

I will say it again. I am the Watchman of Ephraim.
I am one person. If you say there are many maybe you have information i do not. I really am not wanting to debate my signature and name. Look at the content of my writing and judge me from that. God has given me a way to show others that what i say is from him. what a person does with it is his and God's business. I am just sending a message. ephraim

[Jemidon2004]

Ezekiel was commissioned to be a watchman over Ephraim. I'm sure you've read this in Ezekiel 33 as well as elsewhere in Scripture. I'll post it for those who may be confused.

Eze 33:1  Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 33:2  Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
Eze 33:3  If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
Eze 33:4  Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
Eze 33:5  He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
Eze 33:6  But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
Eze 33:7  So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
Eze 33:8  When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 33:9  Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Eze 33:10  Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?
Eze 33:11  Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Eze 33:12  Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.
Eze 33:13  When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 33:16  None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
Eze 33:17  Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal.
Eze 33:18  When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.
Eze 33:19  But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.
Eze 33:20  Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

Keep in mind that the Watchman was designated as Ezekiel's post and we see another OT reference to the office of the Pastor. One who watches over a congregation of God's children. The office of the watchman is one of dire duty because it plainly says that if you see danger coming and do not warn someone, their blood will be on your hands. That is the literal meaning, the universal meaning is that as those who take the office of the Pastor (after they are called from God of course) are held to a higher standard. It is our duty to warn and keep others from harm spiritually. Am I not correct. If I am not then please correct me, but do it with Scripture. If you are using the term Watchman as the same usage as that of Ezekiel, then you, my friend are not the watchman of Ephraim, because that is now Christ's job due to the simple fact that there are no more Prophets in Israel to warn Israel to repent and turn back to God. And I use the term prophets in reference to the Prophets in Scripture. Israel is the #2 nation with atheism if I remember correctly. Yes there are evangelists, but again, I will say that there are NOT prophets like Israel has seen in the past. I, personally, do not think there will arise any more until the 2 witnesses...but that's my personal opinion. Back to the subject...are you a Pastor or a self-proclaimed "Watchman" like Ezekiel? I do hope that it's the former. Just was wanting a bit of clarification...I hope i do not sound cryptic, but I've dealt with some who claim to be "watchmen" but they're not actually watching. Thanks for reading.

Just a few thoughts.
Joshua

[ephraim]

let me say this. you are sceptical of me which is fine. everyone in the world is looking over his shoulder for some reason or another. when we meet in heaven which will be very soon make it your mission to find me. then you can accuse me of lying in front of the Lord. he will set us both straight and may the loser make a public apology...

P.S.   if you look for me you will definately find me. ephraim

[JudgeNot]

ephraim  said:
"...when we meet in heaven which will be very soon make it your mission to find me...."

That’s the wrong answer for someone who portends to be a “messenger” of God.  I would expect God’s messenger to glorify God rather than himself.  I’ll not make it my “mission” to search out anyone in Heaven other than Jesus.  

[ephraim]

I'm not looking for your glory sir. It is my intention when I'm in heaven to seek out my distant relatives, friends, people from years gone by and certainly Jesus. Do you feel your time is short in heaven? I plan to be there a long time. I personally just want to send a message. I've sent it so my job is done thank you for your time... ephraim

[Bronzesnake]

let me say this. you are sceptical of me which is fine. everyone in the world is looking over his shoulder for some reason or another. when we meet in heaven which will be very soon make it your mission to find me. then you can accuse me of lying in front of the Lord. he will set us both straight and may the loser make a public apology...

P.S.   if you look for me you will definately find me. ephraim

My friend. Please stop playing word games.
Are you a pastor, or are you a self-proclaimed "Watchman" like Ezekiel?

Don't be coy, just answer the question, because if you think you are "the" watchman, then you are a false prophet, and we can save a lot of time and get rid of you fast so we don't have to go through a long drawn out argument as to why you are not that prophet.

Your explanation of the end times through Revelations and political history is just goofy, so a prophet you ain't.

Moderator

[Soldier4Christ]

I'm not looking for your glory sir. It is my intention when I'm in heaven to seek out my distant relatives, friends, people from years gone by and certainly Jesus. Do you feel your time is short in heaven? I plan to be there a long time. I personally just want to send a message. I've sent it so my job is done thank you for your time... ephraim

No, but it appears that you are looking for self glory. As stated above you are no watchman of ephraim. Your prophecies have already been proven false by yourself.

[Jemidon2004]

 What I have said in my previous post was not that of skepticism, but one of curiousity. As it was said, my post was for clarification, considering I have dealt with self-proclaimed watchmen before who have turned out to be, in reality, false prophets. I can only pray that you are not one. I will however say this. I stand on the Word of God as the FINAL Authority in matters of God. The office of the Watchman is a matter concerning God, as it is HE and HE alone who ordains one a Watchman. Ezekiel was commissioned as a watchman over the house of Israel. Or the Nation of Israel as the text suggests. Right now there is no place in the nation of Israel for a watchman because Israel is in a state of spiritual desolation. If I felt like accusing you of lying. I would have flat out called you a liar. However, i don't go around accusing people of lying. Indirectly or directly. My posts are simply intended to get people thinking and to call into discussion and sometimes question the statements some make. Do they line up with God's Word, or do they not. I'm not out to call anyone a liar, neither is anyone else on here. I do not feel I have to explain myself, but I am doing it anyway, because God has called me to the office of the Pastorship in the Ministry. I know it is my calling, and I will stand up and defend my calling against those who seek to distort and pervert that office. Now you know the reasoning by my questions...now I leave you, I have some writing to do and some issues to take care of. God Bless

Joshua