The Sign of Jonah and Jesus Coin?

[Elias2k]

10th Planet Discovered

It appears a follow-up is in order in light of our possible finding of another planet (10th - Planet Xena) of our Solar System beyond Pluto. It is truly a new period of discovery when we receive the privilege of witnessing such a huge discovery where only 75 years have elapsed since the scientific discovery of Pluto.  

This is definitely a sign that science, technology and the world is moving into another era which will only serve to broaden our understanding of the universe
in which we live. This newly found planet dubbed 2003UB313 - Xena is about three times as
far from the Sun as Pluto and might definitely be larger given the nature of the size and mass differences of our larger outer planets like Saturn as compared to the smaller ones with dense Iron cores closer to the Sun like the Earth.  This new discovery according to Space.com (Mike Brown of Caltech) will be visible over the next six months (with a telescope) almost overhead in the early- morning eastern sky observed in the constellation Cetus  (Cetus is a Latin word for Whale).    
   
This is an interesting find in light of having previously in years past observed an interesting ancient Sumerian tablet depicting possibly 10 terrestrial objects (spheres) orbiting the Sun with one being roughly the same size as Uranus which portrayed the placement of the 10th object at a much greater distance from the Sun in comparison to the others. Largely I am interested in the discovery of this new planet and projection of this objects orbit pattern which appears on the tablet as if it was not following the standard elliptical orbit around the Sun in the same fashion. Gravitational acceleration affects of the Sun would definitely be interesting if this turns out to be a planet larger than Pluto considering where it is now located and how it might be moving in relation to Pluto(9th), Neptune(8th) and Uranus(7th).

20th Century Discovery of Planetary bodies

Percival Lowell performed several searches for new planets in 1913-15 but overlooked Pluto which was not discovered until February 18, 1930. Clyde Tombaugh at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona was searching for additional outer planets which would explain discrepancies in the predicted orbit of Uranus and Neptune. Although we still do not know for sure that this new find is really a planet science is going to have an interesting time with this discovery which may turn out to be much different that what we know so far considering Pluto and Neptune and their unique gravitational behavior combined with Pluto’s highly eccentric orbit. Just what it is for sure they recently found will take some time and effort to study and understand. I think there will be many amateur astronomers out there interested in this find as well as the professionals like those at NASA.  Studying the stars is indeed very fun, educational and interesting especially in the 21st century where we have excellent telescopes, digital cameras and communications technologies delivering to us the digital universe pixel by pixel taking us to new horizons thru the mysteries and discoveries of the unchartered waters of our universe.

"It will be visible over the next six months and is currently almost directly overhead in the early-morning eastern sky, in the constellation Cetus." -Mike Brown of Caltech (Space.com)  

Sign of Jonah (The Whale - Matthew 12:38-40)

Something like this discovery makes me wonder just how much the ancient Astronomers knew. I marvel over their unique symbols as well as how these ancient civilizations (Sumerians) learned so much about the solar system. The Hebrew Old Testament like other dated text seem to refer to objects which would come from the Heavens bringing with them signs, and changes. Signs can be found in the writings of Genesis, Job, Matthew, Isaiah, Habakkuk and the Psalms where heaven declares the glory and mystery of God (thru celestial events and signs) and the fact that the earth will become filled with this knowledge. I especially took notice to the correlations with this and Matthew 12:38-40 the sign of the prophet Jonah to be given. Since signs like the Rainbow (Genesis 9:11-17) were given to Noah some might consider this a significant find in light of the biblical scholars of the 17th century whom considered Cetus as a stellar depiction of the Whale that swallowed Jonah. This for sure was an area of direct interest for me when I found out about the nature of this new discovery. I think it very important that we find peace with God thru the words of the scriptures which can teach us much about ourselves and the universe in which we live. Thru this I am reminded of the omnipotence of God and his creation which will always further serve to prove the existance of God whom gave us the light in our eyes.  

"My first reaction was, 'aw, I lost the bet by seven days." -Mike Brown of Caltech (Space.com)

Read about this new planetary discovery and explore new horizons:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050729_large_object.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050729_new_planet.html
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1539933,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_%28planet%29#Discovery_and_naming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetus

For a more philosophical and Biblical perspective on signs and the Heavens:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%209:8-17;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2012:38-40;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:37-42;&version=31
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jonah&version=31;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah
http://xfacts.com/iraq2003/1.html (Anchient Artifacts from British Museum - IRAQ)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smith_%28Assyriologist%29

Weather Anomalies (Mars crossed the sea of Pisces - Mira Cetus on 07/30/2005 15:12 GMT):
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1539742,00.html
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&e=3&u=/nm/20050731/sc_nm/hurricane_dc (Global Warming Kerry Emanuel - MIT)
http://www.sociopranos.com/forums/thread-view.asp?threadid=520&start=1

Light in your Eyes:
http://www.tophitsonline.com/lyrics.php?songid=5718
http://www.livescience.com/imageoftheday/siod_050728.html (Jesus Coin Discovery)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=22&verse=16&version=31&context=verse
http://www.vcomsoft.com/gallery/rainbow.htm (Genesis 9:13)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201:14-16;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202:2;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2038:7
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2013;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=11&chapter=4&verse=29&version=31&context=verse
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%209:1-10;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2012:8-12;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%202:9-10;&version=31;
http://www.sociopranos.com/forums/thread-view.asp?threadid=678&posts=1

"Oops it looks like God is the master of the universe and is still with us (Immanuel)..."

[toolapc]

hey i enjoy reading what u have to say but a little confused are u saying this new planet is a sign of jonah. wow so that new star is a sign of Jonah what else u know about the end of days your instinc are very good.

oh i thought u were saying the new planet is a sign of jonah
 witch it proboly is as insane as it sounds  
 Matthew 12:38-40 the sign of the prophet Jonah to be given.  

[Bronzesnake]

hey i enjoy reading what u have to say but a little confused are u saying this new planet is a sign of jonah. wow so that new star is a sign of Jonah what else u know about the end of days your instinc are very good.

when did we find this planet like last week, so jesus  must be very lazy and will probly get eatin buy a fish but whats a young kid to do in this material world. wow this is the very very begining the seeds are not created yet

 You appear to be seriously confused my friend.
What are you talking about?

[Elias2k]

Never once did I say “This was the sign of Jonah.” What I did say was “I especially took notice to the correlations with this and Matthew 12:38-40 the sign of the prophet Jonah to be given.” This is not to confuse words or ideas were one might think
that I am actually alluding to this as being the actual sign of the prophet Jonah.  The Key words used here was correlations rather than a statement providing actual evidence of fact.

How is it that so many today can have the events of Revelations down to 3.5 years when the holy scriptures say “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.”
(Matthew 25:13) and “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 13:32)

“Thru this I am reminded of the omnipotence of God and his creation which will always further serve to prove the existence of God whom gave us the light in our eyes. “

However I am never confused over such trivial misunderstandings as basic scripture or the English language and the word correlation referring a scriptural basis for the discussion of prophecy and signs. I find it interesting that the Jesus Coin was never refuted which was in fact because of the name assigned it.


Its ok I will forgive you my friend for your misunderstanding nor will I ever attempt to publicly demean you which is a very non Christian like behavior!!!

[Bronzesnake]

How is it that so many today can have the events of Revelations down to 3.5 years when the holy scriptures say “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.”
(Matthew 25:13) and “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 13:32)

 The bible should be our single source for understanding the scriptures.
The bible clearly numbers the exact days of the duration of the seven year tribulation. It's not 3 1/2 years, it's 7 years.
I didn't make that up, it's in the bible my friend.

Therefore Mat 25:13 can not be referring to the tribulation, because God has specifically numbered the exact amount of days.
Mat 25:13 is a reference to the Rapture. Although Jesus told us no one except God the Father knows the exact day and hour, He did warn us to look for the signs which He specifically detailed, so that we would know when the time was at hand - near - knowing when something is near, is very different than knowing the exact day and hour. My wife and I knew when she was close to birthing our three sons, because we saw the signs - however, we never knew when the exact day or hour would be. That's an example Jesus Himself gave - about birth pains, so we could understand what He was telling us - to be aware of the general time, but not the exact time.