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Is The Pre-Trib Rapture Theory Biblical
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RichkCt
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What do you feel about the Pre-Trib Rapture theory?
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June 20, 2005, 05:13:06 PM »
Quote from: RichkCt on June 17, 2005, 05:48:45 PM
What do you feel about the Pre-Trib Rapture theory?
If there is a pre, will there be a during and post? So that all the saved might be with the Lord
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June 20, 2005, 05:50:18 PM »
Quote from: ollie on June 20, 2005, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: RichkCt on June 17, 2005, 05:48:45 PM
What do you feel about the Pre-Trib Rapture theory?
If there is a pre, will there be a during and post? So that all the saved might be with the Lord
ollie
No during, yes post....but all the saved will be with the Lord. During, they become martyrs, and their souls are found waiting under the throne of God until the end of the trib and Jesus comes to earth with "10 thousand thousand of His saints..." to rule during the Millennium.
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RichkCt
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Quote from: Evangelist on June 20, 2005, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: ollie on June 20, 2005, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: RichkCt on June 17, 2005, 05:48:45 PM
What do you feel about the Pre-Trib Rapture theory?
If there is a pre, will there be a during and post? So that all the saved might be with the Lord
ollie
No during, yes post....but all the saved will be with the Lord. During, they become martyrs, and their souls are found waiting under the throne of God until the end of the trib and Jesus comes to earth with "10 thousand thousand of His saints..." to rule during the Millennium.
Where in the Bible does it state that..?
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June 22, 2005, 12:29:55 PM »
Quote from: RichkCt on June 22, 2005, 12:03:38 AM
Quote from: Evangelist on June 20, 2005, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: ollie on June 20, 2005, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: RichkCt on June 17, 2005, 05:48:45 PM
What do you feel about the Pre-Trib Rapture theory?
If there is a pre, will there be a during and post? So that all the saved might be with the Lord
ollie
No during, yes post....but all the saved will be with the Lord. During, they become martyrs, and their souls are found waiting under the throne of God until the end of the trib and Jesus comes to earth with "10 thousand thousand of His saints..." to rule during the Millennium.
Where in the Bible does it state that..?
Which part? Here's a start...............
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 6:9
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Jud 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him
Rev 19:14
And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
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Re:Rapture
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June 22, 2005, 09:47:52 PM »
Any one risk a guess as to how i voted?
My guess is Ollie is looking for the connection not isolated verses.
Here is an isolated verse....I wonder how many different theologies could be developed from it....
Isa 19:25
25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying,
Blessed be Egypt my people,
and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance
KJV
Isolated verses can be aranged to say just about what ever one would wish.
Does Isa 19:25 tell us Egypt is His people? Yup it sure does...again i wonder how many different theologies could be developed from it....
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June 28, 2005, 11:34:09 PM »
The Pre-Trib rapture theory is false. Its not surprising that the poll is telling that more people think it is true and Biblical it is not..
The Popular LEFT BEHIND theory is a LIE
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June 28, 2005, 11:54:47 PM »
Quote from: RichkCt on June 28, 2005, 11:34:09 PM
The Pre-Trib rapture theory is false. Its not surprising that the poll is telling that more people think it is true and Biblical it is not..
The Popular LEFT BEHIND theory is a LIE
What is your theory? What is your scripture back up for your theory? What are the scriptural reasons you believe LB to be a lie.
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The Popular LEFT BEHIND theory is a LIE
Sorry - RichkCt, I know you are passionate and this is probably just semantics to you, but, by definition "Theory" cannot be a "lie". True theorists ever claim truth - (except for Darwinists.
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Popular theory is just an idea that draws acute interest. To accuse those who are proponents of a theory as liars is unfair. They may be guilty of an 'unfortunate guess', but nothing more. I certainly don’t believe salvation is dependent on ‘good theory’. John 3:16 is not theory.
Just my $0.02 – although it may actually be worth much less than that.
God bless all,
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June 29, 2005, 01:43:57 AM »
Quote from: RichkCt on June 28, 2005, 11:34:09 PM
The Pre-Trib rapture theory is false. Its not surprising that the poll is telling that more people think it is true and Biblical it is not..
The Popular LEFT BEHIND theory is a LIE
Rich,
That would simply be your opinion. There are several massive threads on the board that offer Biblical reasons for why many Christians believe your opinion to be false. I quickly noticed that you didn't offer any Bible references for your opinion. If you have any, please feel free to open the thread of your choice. You might want to study the topic first unless you are using a crystal ball for your opinion.
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All you pre-tribber believers. Something to think about..
Look around..Look at whats happening around the. Can you honestly say that we're not in the trib now?
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Hey RC - I can say I
hope
we are in the trib - that means things will be coming to an end (err...BEGINNING!) very soon!
God bless!
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IF that's the case, then where are the deaths of 1/3 of the population due to famine? Where is the antichrist? Where is the one world government. Where is the temple? It hasn't been rebuilt. Where is the desecration that will happen? It can't happen because the Temple hasn't been rebuilt. Where are the two witnesses? They're nowhere to be found. Where are the 144,000 Jews who will witness during the Tribulation period. I see no such thing. You got alot of questions and no answers Rich. Typical of those who are quick to dismiss Pre-Trib Rapture and those who think we are in the Tribulation period. Just a few thoughts.
Joshua
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Quote from: Jemidon2004 on June 29, 2005, 08:47:54 PM
IF that's the case, then where are the deaths of 1/3 of the population due to famine? Where is the antichrist? Where is the one world government. Where is the temple? It hasn't been rebuilt. Where is the desecration that will happen? It can't happen because the Temple hasn't been rebuilt. Where are the two witnesses? They're nowhere to be found. Where are the 144,000 Jews who will witness during the Tribulation period. I see no such thing. You got alot of questions and no answers Rich. Typical of those who are quick to dismiss Pre-Trib Rapture and those who think we are in the Tribulation period. Just a few thoughts.
Joshua
Amen Brother Joshua!
There is much to be fulfilled, and it will be at God's appointed time. That time might be growing near. In terms of when, it's sufficient for me to know like the old hymn,
When the role is called up yonder, I'll be there!
Love In Christ,
Tom
Psalms 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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June 30, 2005, 05:10:16 PM »
I really dont know why I keep coming to this website. Theres so much blindness..
I mean people liking: rick warren
People believing in the: Pre-Trib lie fantasy
People liking the film The passion of mel gibson
I guess its just all part of the great falling away...
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