New Museum

[JudgeNot]

Hey - I'd pay to visit this museum...  

Creation Museum Sparks Evolution Debate
MyWay.Com
May 22, 10:55 PM (ET)
PETERSBURG, Ky. (AP) - Ken Ham has spent 11 years working on a museum that poses the big question - when and how did life begin? Ham hopes to soon offer an answer to that question in his still-unfinished Creation Museum in northern Kentucky.
The $25 million monument to creationism offers Ham's view that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. The largest museum of its kind in the world, it hopes to draw 600,000 people from the Midwest and beyond in its first year.
Ham, 53, isn't bothered that his literal interpretation of the Bible runs counter to accepted scientific theory, which says Earth and its life forms evolved over billions of years.
Ham said the museum is a way of reaching more people along with the Answers in Genesis Web site, which claims to get 10 million page views per month and his "Answers ... with Ken Ham" radio show, carried by more than 725 stations worldwide.
"People will get saved here," Ham said of the museum. "It's going to fire people up. If nothing else, it's going to get them to question their own position of what they believe."
Ham is ready for a fight over his beliefs - based on a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.
"It's a foundational battle," said Ham, a native of Australia who still speaks with an accent. "You've got to get people believing the right history - and believing that you can trust the Bible."
Among Ham's beliefs are that the Earth is about 6,000 years old, a figure arrived at by tracing the biblical genealogies, and not 4.5 billion years, as mainstream scientists say; the Grand Canyon was formed not by erosion over millions of years, but by floodwaters in a matter of days or weeks and that dinosaurs and man once coexisted, and dozens of the creatures - including Tyrannosaurus Rex - were passengers on the ark built by Noah, who was a real man, not a myth.
Although the Creation Museum's full opening is still two years away, already a buzz is building.
"When that museum is finished, it's going to be Cincinnati's No. 1 tourist attraction," says the Rev. Jerry Falwell, nationally known Baptist evangelist and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. "It's going to be a mini-Disney World."
Respected groups such as the National Science Board, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Science Teachers Association strongly support the theory of evolution. John Marburger, the Bush administration's science adviser, has said, "Evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology."
Many mainstream scientists worry that creationist theology masquerading as science will have an adverse effect on the public's science literacy.
"It's a giant step backward in science education," says Carolyn Chambers, chair of the biology department at Xavier University, which is operated by the Jesuit order of the Catholic church.
Glenn Storrs, curator of vertebrate paleontology for the Cincinnati Museum Center, leads dinosaur excavations in Montana each summer. He said the theory of dinosaurs and man coexisting is a "non-issue."
"And so, I believe, is the age of the Earth," Storrs said. "It's very clear the Earth is much older than 6,000 years."
The Rev. Mendle Adams, pastor of St. Peter's United Church of Christ in Pleasant Ridge, takes issue with Ham's views - and the man himself.
"He takes extraordinary liberties with Scripture and theology to prove his point," Adams said. "The bottom line is, he is anti-gay, and he uses that card all the time."
Ham says homosexual behavior is a sin. But he adds that he's careful to condemn the behavior, not the person.
Even detractors concede that Ham has appeal.
Ian Plimer, chair of geology at the University of Melbourne, became aware of Ham in the late 1980s, when Ham's creationist ministry in Australia was just a few years old.
"He is promoting the religion and science of 350 years ago," says Plimer. "He's a far better communicator than most mainstream scientists."
Despite his communication skills, Ham admits he doesn't always make a good first impression. But, that doesn't stop him from trying to spread his beliefs.
"He'd be speaking 20 hours a day if his body would let him," said Mike Zovath, vice president of museum operations.
Ham's wife of 32 years agrees. "He finds it difficult talking about things apart from the ministry," Mally Ham says. "He doesn't shut off."
Ham said he has no choice but to speak out about what he believes.
"The Lord gave me a fire in my bones," Ham says. "The Lord has put this burden in my heart: 'You've got to get this information out.'"

[Tibby]

Of course people in Kentucky don't believe in Evolution, they are still waiting for opposable thumbs I'm surprised they had time to make a Museum, normally they are to busy picking the lice off each other and dragging minorities across town by a noose.

Sorry, couldn't miss the chance to mock Kentucky... they make it so easy.

Just come to the one here in Texas.

[nChrist]

JudgeNot,

Thanks Brother for a fascinating article. YES - I would also be happy to pay admission for this museum.

I love it when the works of the devil are exposed. The theory of evolution is definitely a work of the devil, one that has been allowed to cast doubt on the TRUTH of CREATION by the CREATOR. I think that we are actually watching the debunking of evolution and proof that it is false. We are even seeing this false teaching being removed from some of our schools. It's about time.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 Thessalonians 2:2-4  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.

[Tibby]

Sorry, Tom. I love you, and I hold you in the utmost respect, but I’m not feeling the whole Creationism thing. Creationism is not Biblical. It is a scientific Theory, and a very poor thought out one, at that. Believing in Geneses on Faith alone, I can relate too (Faith is the substance of things hoped for, not the substance of things we can prove at the Creation Evidence Museum). Believe that God used Evolution, I can relate too. But this would creationism vibe just doesn’t work. Why would god make all these scientific laws to rule the Earth by, and not use them? God made Gravity and Aerodynamics and thermodynamics and all the other laws of that nature, why is it so far fetched to believe he would use them to shape the Earth?

[nChrist]

Sorry, Tom. I love you, and I hold you in the utmost respect, but I’m not feeling the whole Creationism thing. Creationism is not Biblical. It is a scientific Theory, and a very poor thought out one, at that. Believing in Geneses on Faith alone, I can relate too (Faith is the substance of things hoped for, not the substance of things we can prove at the Creation Evidence Museum). Believe that God used Evolution, I can relate too. But this would creationism vibe just doesn’t work. Why would god make all these scientific laws to rule the Earth by, and not use them? God made Gravity and Aerodynamics and thermodynamics and all the other laws of that nature, why is it so far fetched to believe he would use them to shape the Earth?

Tibby,

Brother, I think that we might be talking about two different things here. I'm thinking about the account of Creation from the Holy Bible, and that's 100% Biblical. I also think that's what the article speaks of, the Creation account in the Bible.

I believe the Creation account in the Bible 100% and view it as literal. Many disagree, and that's their right to disagree. I reject the theory of evolution completely, but many also disagree with my stance. I personally believe that the theory of evolution is falling apart and science is proving it to be false. We can agree to disagree. I'll claim the simple Creation account in the Holy Bible as truth and say that I've always believed evolution to be false.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 111:2  The works of the LORD are great, sought out of all them that have pleasure therein.

[Tibby]

While I do believe that that is what happened, I do not believe word-for-literal-word that is what happened. I do not think God made the Earth in six 24 hours periods. Could he? Yes. He could have skipped the whole day method and just made everything at once. But I don't think he did. I think he created it over a very long period of time, billions of years, and things like the Big band and the Cambrian Explosion are the "dawn" of "new days." The Evolutionist and Creationist agree on the order in which life came to be, just no the method. I do not think that it is just by chance we have the same order of when things happened in both the Bible and Biological text books.

What I'm trying to say it, I do not feel that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive, like the Extremist nuts who study them say they are!

[nChrist]

While I do believe that that is what happened, I do not believe word-for-literal-word that is what happened. I do not think God made the Earth in six 24 hours periods. Could he? Yes. He could have skipped the whole day method and just made everything at once. But I don't think he did. I think he created it over a very long period of time, billions of years, and things like the Big band and the Cambrian Explosion are the "dawn" of "new days." The Evolutionist and Creationist agree on the order in which life came to be, just no the method. I do not think that it is just by chance we have the same order of when things happened in both the Bible and Biological text books.

What I'm trying to say it, I do not feel that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive, like the Extremist nuts who study them say they are!

   Tibby, I'll take the exclusive Biblical account of Creation in Genesis. We'll simply have to agree to disagree, and I'll be happy to wear my "Extremist Nut" tag.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

John 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[Tibby]

Works for me... I got burned out on this debate ages ago