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« on: September 18, 2004, 12:51:30 AM »

I want to post this in case, something happens to my computer.

How many of you allow your children to go, trick or treating on Halloween? Here is a little information about Haloween.

Halloween, Trick or Deception

We can stay away from the pagan festival of Halloween if we understanding of the spiritual danger and history of this anti-Christian feast.

Our Pilgrim forefathers knew well of Halloween's occult roots. In fact they banned celebrating Halloween in America. Halloween was not celebrated in this country until 1845. At that time multiplied thousands of Irish emigrants flooded into New York because of the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-46. They brought with them an old Druid Holiday they called Halloween. Gradually celebrating this day spread throughout the rest of the country.

We must stay away from other practices associated with Halloween, the eve of the Celtic New Year festival. The Druid priests used to instruct their faithful to extinguish their hearth fires and lights and to gather around the fire of sacrifice to make their offerings and to pay homage to the Lord of Death. This sacred fire was the fire of the new year, to be taken home to rekindle lights and hearth fires. The sacred New Year=s fire developed into the practice of the Jack O= Lantern (in the U.S.A.; a pumpkin, in older days other vegetables were used), which was carved in imitation of the dead and used to convey the new light and fire to the home, where the lantern was left burning throughout the night. Even the use and display of the Jack O= Lantern honors the Samhain, the Celtic god of death. Orthodox Christians cannot share in this Celtic activity, but must counter the secular customs by instead burning candles to the Savior, the Most Holy Mother of God, and to all the Holy Saints. They were idolaters, occult practitioners and witches of sorts. Let’s begin with the information found in the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

    Halloween and its former attendant ceremonies long antedate Christianity. The two chief characteristics of ancient Halloween were the lighting of bonfires and the belief that of all nights in the year this is the one during which ghosts and witches are most likely to wander abroad. Now on or about the 1st of November the Druids held their great autumn festival and lighted fires in honor of the Sun-god in thanksgiving of the harvest. Further, it was a Druidic belief that on the eve of this festival Saman, lord of death, called together the wicked souls that within the past twelve months had been condemned to inhabit the bodies of animals. Thus it is clear that the main celebration of Halloween was purely Druidical, and this is further proved by the fact that in parts of Ireland the 31st of October was, and even still is, known as Oidhche Shamhna, "Vigil of Saman." On the Druidic ceremonies were grafted some of the characteristics ! of the Roman festival in honor of Pamona held about the 1st of November. The Roman Catholics call this day, All Saints Day.

Depending on your source material, the Druid Lord of Death and evil spirits was called Saman, Shamhan, Samana, Shamhain or Samhain. I have received numerous letters and e-mail from witches telling me there was no such Druid god. Yet, in the source material that I have used, (see the above quote), such as the historic 11th edition of Encyclopedia Britannica, it identifies the Druid Lord of Death as Saman and his holiday named after him as Oidhche Shamhna, translated "Vigil of Saman." Other reliable sources call his "holiday" "The Vigil Samhain" (Shamhain is pronounced so-wein). I ask you, are the protests of the occult community an effort to "white wash" the truth about Saman and how they worshipped him in fiendish, bloody worship rituals? I believe that is probable.

Suffice it to say, at this point that the pagan worship day Samhain evolved into Halloween. But what of their Lord of Death? You probably have seen a modern day version of SAMAN without even knowing it. This pagan god was shown as a ghostly, skeleton holding a sickle in his hand. He later came to be known as THE GRIM REAPER.

Paganism, idolatry and Satan worship--How then did things so contradictory to the Faith gain acceptance among Christian people? The answers are spiritual apathy and listlessness, which are the spiritual roots of atheism and turning away from God. In society today, one is urged to disregard the spiritual roots and origins of secular practices when the outward practices or forms seem ordinary, entertaining, and harmless. The dogma of atheism underlies many of these practices and forms, denying the existence of both God and Satan. Practices and forms of obvious pagan and idolatrous origin are neither harmless nor of little consequence. The Holy Church stand against them because we are taught by Christ that God stands in judgment over everything we do and believe, and that our actions are either for God or against God. Therefore, the customs of Halloween are not innocent, but are demonic, precisely as their origins prove.

There are evil spirits. Devils do exist. Christ came into the world so that, through death, He might destroy him that had the dominion of death, that is, the Devil (Hebrews 2:12). Christians must see that our greatest foe is the Evil One who inspires nations and individuals to sin, and who keeps them from coming to the truth. Until we know that Satan is our real enemy, we can make little spiritual progress.

Ephesians 6:12  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the world rulers of the darkness of this age, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Deuteronomy 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

Leviticus 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

Have you ever wondered where the heinous pagan worship rituals of the Druids originated? I have. As it turns out it goes all the way back to Nimrod, who built Babel or Babylon. He conceived a one world government model in rebellion against Jehovah-God and went about to establish a one world government in the land of Shinar (which is today known as Iraq) and institute a pagan worship system that rejected the Lord God Jehovah. The primary false god worshipped was called Baal (Syrian & Phoenician), Bel (Assyrian), Moloch or Molech (Ammonites), Ra or Re (Egyptian) to name just a few. Here is why that is important. The American Book of Days says, "Many of Halloween's customs are derived from the ancient Baal Festivals. Other customs originate from the taking of omens from the struggles of victims in the fires of druidic sacrifices." Alexander Hislop wrote, "The worship of Bel (Moloch) and Astarte was very early introduced into Britain along with the Druids, the priests of the groves. From Bel, the 1st of May is still called Beltane in the Almanac; and we have customs still lingering at this day among us, which prove how exactly the worship of Bel or Moloch had been observed…" The reference to "lingering customs" refers to Halloween.

Now, allow me to turn your attention back to Nimrod for a moment. It is important that you know that Nimrod incorporated into his worship system the grisly practice of human sacrifice and cannibalism. Hislop says, "the priests of Nimrod or Baal were necessarily required to eat of the human sacrifices; and thus it has come to pass that ‘Cahna-Bal’ (cahna meaning priest & Bal referring to Baal), the ‘Priest of Baal’ is the established word (cannibal) in our own tongue for a devourer of human flesh." Here’s why that is important. "The god whom the Druids worshipped was Baal, as the blazing Baal-fires show and…children were offered in sacrifice to Baal." That’s what Baal (Moloch) worshippers did. We know that because of what we read in the Bible

Jeremiah 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind.

There is absolutely no doubt that Samhain - Halloween, was a wicked pagan worship day. It is little wonder that even today Halloween’s focus is still on horror, mutilation, death, evil and the occult seeing that it is rooted in Baal worship! But, I come in contact with people regularly who protest, "That may have been true in the past, but that is not true today."

Witches have never given up Halloween! Occultists of all stripes still lay claim to the day and worship their pagan gods and goddesses on that day with demonic rituals.

I will state boldly that Halloween is harmful! Here are the reasons why. Many are exposed to Witchcraft and occult practices at Halloween activities

Like many others, I got my first exposure to occult practices at Halloween parties. My first experience came at a church Halloween party at our sponsor's house. A group of kids went to the basement began talking about contacting the spirits and asking them to show themselves by table levitation. I had not been exposed to anything like that before. Some of them claimed that it really worked. I became uneasy and I left the party. My second experience came when I attended the Halloween party of a classmate. When it came to "game" time, we went to the basement. Elizabeth asked us all to be seated in a circle and then placed a candle in the middle. She told us to hold hands and then turned off the lights. I asked why we were doing that and she said we were going to have a seance and to call up the devil. Not me! The last person I wanted to communicate with was the Devil. I got out of there.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2004, 12:55:11 AM »

I can tell you that many children get their first exposure to occult activities at Halloween. In one school district a "real" Witch was brought in and told the children of the wonderful world of witchcraft including teaching them how to cast a spell, (no not where I live now.)  Another group of teens went on a school sponsored Halloween field trip and visited a channeler, which is nothing but a spirit medium who practices necromancy. They had a seance with the intent of contacting (channeling) the spirit of a dead rock star.

From about October 1st until October 31st, witches, vampires, Satanists and other occult minions can be seen and heard on TV and radio talk shows. There will be special features on witchcraft. Newspapers and magazines with be packed with occult related articles. Americans have been receptive to this over the years. But, what happens? That brings me to my next point. Children and even adults are conditioned to be receptive to occult doctrines and practices and are desensitized by the violence and death associated with it’s celebration

Psalms 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

There is no better illustration of this fact than Ann Landers’ column that I came across while reading a newspaper in a restaurant one afternoon. The title of her column was Parents Must Tackle Violence. The parent wrote:

I heard something today that made my hair stand on end. I hope you will deal with it in your column because it is a symptom of a problem that warrants deep concern. Last October, the teacher of a fourth grade class asked her students to write a short essay on what they would like to do most to celebrate Halloween. Eighty percent of her 9 year-olds expressed the wish to "kill somebody". Where do children get such ideas? I believe it is fair to say that they get them from movies on TV. What are we going to do about this love of violence among the young? Frankly, it scares me to death. I am - Concerned in California.

I can almost hear some of you protesting, the kids were just kidding. You don’t actually believe that anyone would follow through on things like that do you? In fact there are some who do! Evangelist Dave Benoit tells of a mother finding a strange diary, called "The Book Of Shadows" in her son's room. She, with fear and trembling, leafed through pages filled with satanic drawings. Then her eyes fell on these horrifying words, "Last year I stole a car at Halloween and ran over a kid and killed him. This year, at Halloween, I plan to do the same thing!" The words in his satanic diary proved to be true. He murdered a person the previous Halloween as a sacrifice to Satan.

All parents ought to be concerned. Halloween does desensitize our children by exposing them to violence, death, mutilation and gore. Not only do they expose them to it, they glorify it! I well remember the only haunted house, (in 1980) that I have ever been in. I took a camera with me loaded with high speed film. I was shocked by what I saw. In one of the first rooms, there was a partially dismembered woman on an operating table. As I made my way along the darkened hallway a frightening mutilated man jumped out racing a electric saw and threatening to dismember me. And then, perhaps the most gruesome of all was a large lighted butcher’s meat case loaded with very real looking bloody body parts. Listen readers, I do not think that is funny at all. I spent several years on a fire department rescue squad and dismembered and mutilated people have never amused me. And why should it be acceptable at Halloween? Did you laugh and joke on July 22, 1991 when you heard the news t! hat police discovered 17 mutilated and dismembered bodies in apartment #213 which was occupied by Jeffery Dahmer? What are we telling our children if we accept that kind of scene on Halloween and yet gasp with true horror when murder-mutilations come to light on the news?

Halloween is desensitizing our children by its glorification of violence, death, mutilation and gore. Standard television and video viewing fare this Halloween will be slasher/horror movies like Dracula, Scream, "Nightmare on Elm Street", "Halloween", and "Friday the 13th" film series and others. Jeffery Dahmer’s favorite was the Exorsist II.

He "watched this movie on almost a weekly basis, for approximately six months, and sometimes 2 and 3 times a week. He identified with the main character in the movie because he appeared to be driven by evil. Tracy Edwards (one who escaped from Dahmer) testified that Dahmer forced him to watch this video. He said that Dahmer identified with the possessed former preacher and he wanted to be demonized. Edwards went on to say that Dahmer began to chant, rocking back and forth. While he did this, it seemed like he was not even there."

Are you wondering why I am bringing Dahmer into this picture? I’ll tell you why. Many of the horror/slasher pictures are inspired by incidents like the Dahmer case and Dahmer was inspired by a demonic horror picture. I should say, that this is not just my "wild speculation." Consider actor (and I use the term loosely) Robert Englund. He portrayed razor fingered, mass murderer Freddy Krueger in the "Nightmare on Elm Street" series. Where do you suppose he got his inspiration to play his part? He drew his inspiration from the late Ted Bundy, who raped, brutalized, mutilated and murdered more than 28 women. Englund told Slaughterhouse magazine, "I just read an article on Ted Bundy, so a lot of my imagery is based on him."

I don't believe children should be exposed to such manufactured traumas. Why? Because exposing a vulnerable child can have harmful consequences that run the spectrum from nightmares to emotional damage. In fact, Dr. Grace Ketterman, M.D. says in her book, You and Your Child's Problems:

A tragic by-product of fear in the lives of children as early as preadolescence is the interest and involvement in supernatural occult phenomena.


1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

My final reason that Halloween is harmful is because…

It provides the opportunity to experiment with the occult to see if it works and an excuse to do evil

Many who are curious about the occult experiment with occult rituals and practices at Halloween. Some of those who were "just playing around" get hooked. Ouija boards, seances, casting spells and small animal sacrifices are among the most common avenues of experimentation.

Others cannot wait for Halloween. They believe it is the most powerful occult day of the year. Jack Roper, occult researcher with C.A.R.I.S. (Christian Apologetics: Research & Information Service) says "...the time of the year where you have the highest rate of satanic ritual crimes is Halloween." He went on to say, "Around Halloween, one of the things you see is graveyard desecration." Self-styled Satanists use human bones in their rituals. Graveyard vandalism is a common occurrence at Halloween.

I know of a shock and trauma caused when a Christian care facility discovered that several of the residents had been ritually abused in occult rites two years in a row at Halloween. How could such a hideous thing ever happen at a Christian facility you may ask? The occult group was able to infiltrate the organization when one or more of their members were hired as house parents. Through carefully planned deception, occult members slipped in and forced some residents to participate in their perverted Halloween demon worship rituals. Residents were threatened with horrible reprisals if they breathed a word of what happened to anyone. Thankfully, after a second year of Halloween ritual abuse someone talked. The Christian organization moved quickly and brought in the police. After a careful investigation only one was prosecuted, though several were fired. But there were no convictions. The occultists got off scot-free. Those that were abused were left to deal with their physical and mental scars.

In my efforts to expose the dangers of Halloween and the other occult holidays I have been asked to evaluate many ritual sites and evaluate photos to give my opinion as to whether they are occult related. I have envelopes full of pictures of animals that have been sacrificed, graves that have been desecrated, living persons whose bodies have been mutilated in occult rituals by tattooing, cutting, piercing, whipping and branding. And then there is the envelope marked pictures of human sacrifice. There is not the least little doubt in my mind that Halloween is the Devil's celebration, packed with evil!


You may be wondering why I know about Halloween. I am Scotch-Irish, my father told me about Halloween.

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 04:26:43 PM »

DW:
Thanx so much for a clear, definitive and impacting post on the realites of a demonic "holiday".  I found it rather curious that Halloween started making "inroads" in this country about the same time as the Christmas Tree.  Do you think there is a connection?

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2004, 10:32:26 PM »

I haven't done enough on christmas trees yet. But I believe it is the work of the great deciever, satan. Christmas is the time Jesus Christ was born. Santa Claus is decieving people on that.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2004, 04:40:47 PM »

I haven't done enough on christmas trees yet. But I believe it is the work of the great deciever, satan. Christmas is the time Jesus Christ was born. Santa Claus is decieving people on that.
"Christmas is the time Jesus Christ was born"


It is not known for sure the time of year Christ was born. It is thought to have been in a warm time of year as the shepherds were in the fields and they would not be in the fields in December or winter with their flocks.

Christmas was instituted by the Roman Catholic Church around 325 AD. It was meant to be a high mass to celebtate the birth of Christ, thus Christmass. It was also decided to celebrate it at the same time as the pagan winter solstice celebrations. It was not instituted as a birthday, but a celebration of His birth. Man twisted the twist over the years.

The Bible does not tell anyone to celebrate the birth of Christ, however Christ Himself has told us to remember His death till He comes.


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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2004, 05:55:15 PM »

Actually, I believe that Jesus was born in the fall of the year at the time of Sukkot - the feast of Tabernacles.  Sukkot ususally falls in Sept, the date differing each year depending on the cycle of the moon.

If you look at Scripture when Zechariah was told by the Angel of John's birth [Zech had the privilege of going into the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippor - Day of Atonement] - Sept, a couple of weeks before Sukkot - so John's conception was shortly thereafter.  Then came the announcement to Mary and she then went to visit Elizabeth, probably in Dec when Elizabeth was 3 months pg, making the delivery of Jesus in the fall.
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Actually, I believe that Jesus was born in the fall of the year at the time of Sukkot - the feast of Tabernacles.  Sukkot ususally falls in Sept, the date differing each year depending on the cycle of the moon.

If you look at Scripture when Zechariah was told by the Angel of John's birth [Zech had the privilege of going into the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippor - Day of Atonement] - Sept, a couple of weeks before Sukkot - so John's conception was shortly thereafter.  Then came the announcement to Mary and she then went to visit Elizabeth, probably in Dec when Elizabeth was 3 months pg, making the delivery of Jesus in the fall.

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I agree with dreamweaver. Some things really looks so innocent and fun, but there are actually of pagan origin. We know we are not worshipping any of those, but having to observe this occassion is an abomination to God for these are ancient babylonian practices. Also, any occult symbols in your house should be thrown out. Demons are real. These symbols represent them and their stronghold thats why it's cursed. No matter how innocent they may look or no matter how simple it may seem, we should should throw them out. It's very subtle, you don't know you have them in your house until you are aware of them. With the blood and in the name of Jesus Christ, we can cast out demons and break their strongholds, but we should not joy over this, but rather joy because our name is written in heaven.
We should know, we no longer struggle with flesh and blood, but with principalities and evil spirits which exalts itself in the heavenly realms.

Although to some people this may seem foolish, but the following symbols or practices represent demonic stronghold and sorceries, I'll mention some:

1. Five Pointed Star - The Pentagram (Flags)
2. The Crescent Moon - Moon God/Goddess symbol (Flags)
3. The Sun - Sun god worship (Flags)
4. Illuminati - The Eye
5. Sacred Heart - Catholic and Hanuman for Hindu (Logo of Superman shaped of a heart)
6. Ankh Cross
7. Celtic Cross
8. Crucifix
9. Swastica
10. All idols,icons,symbols of other faiths - Catholic,Buddhism, Hindu, Shinto, Sikhism, the Samurai, ceremonial masks, thaipussam, totems, african masks, voodoo, etc.
11. Universalism
12. Freemasonry
13. Meneki Neko - Oriental Cat god to bring prosperity
14. Ghouls and Goblins (Bat icon of Batman)
15. Scarrab - Egyptian Beetle symbol - similiar logo of Spiderman
16. Science - They don't believe in God and they exchange the truth for a lie.
17. Ancient cultural dances and rituals - cambodian, balinese, hindu, chinese, indians, africans, tribals, etc. These ancient cultural dances are actually dances for the demons as these are ritualistic in nature. Some can even come into a demonic trance.
18. X'mas and all symbols associated with it.
19. Santa Claus  
20. Every pagan holidays - eg. Easter

We should not worship them, or salute to them, pledge to it, patriotic to it, emulate it, incorporate it whatsover. Have nothing to do with it. These symbols will appear in kids cartoons, schools, in your garments, your blankets, household products, company logos, flags, etc. It's everywhere and it's very subtle. You won't actually even notice it. They're like bugs.

Now, let see what the Bible says about this in the last days:

Revelation 9
20 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot either see or hear or walk; 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their immorality or their thefts.

1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Mathew 24
1 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down."
 
2 Corinthians 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Ephesians 6
12 For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Now what happens if you have them in your house:

Deuteronomy 7
26 And you shall not bring an abominable thing into your house, and become accursed like it; you shall utterly detest and abhor it; for it is an accursed thing.

And what happens if you obey God:

Deuteronomy 7
12 "And because you hearken to these ordinances, and keep and do them, the LORD your God will keep with you the covenant and the steadfast love which he swore to your fathers to keep; 13 he will love you, bless you, and multiply you; he will also bless the fruit of your body and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the young of your flock, in the land which he swore to your fathers to give you. 14 You shall be blessed above all peoples; there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. 15 And the LORD will take away from you all sickness; and none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which you knew, will he inflict upon you, but he will lay them upon all who hate you.

Kindly read all of the passages in Deuteronomy 7 to get a better grasp of things.

Now, research all ancient civilizations - Ankor Wat, Mayan, Pyramids, etc. Who destroyed them? What were they practising and observing? God is patient, He will give time for man to repent. If man doesn't want to repent of his ways, His wrath will be upon them in the last days.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2004, 10:27:38 AM »

Add this to the list;

the six pointed star - commonly known as the Star of David - it's origin is in the occult as well as the 5 pointed star - used in kabbalah, free masonry, rosicrucian, etc.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2004, 07:16:00 AM »

Add this to the list;

the six pointed star - commonly known as the Star of David - it's origin is in the occult as well as the 5 pointed star - used in kabbalah, free masonry, rosicrucian, etc.


The Star of David? I still don't want to confirm this but I see this symbol in Hinduism also. Either they were blaspheming it or just copying it as I think one of the tribes of Israel disobeyed God and fell into idol worshipping and somewhat introduced the Star of David into idol worshipping.

I will also add another one - Pornography just like idol worshipping, will curse the land and also the people. For eg. AIDS, VD, STD, etc. Final Result? Total destruction like Sodom and Gamorrah. It will also be in the last days. With the invention of Internet, pornography has been downloaded and distributed in a massive and global scale where even kids have an easy access to it.

Let see what the Bible says about this:

Revelation 18

1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority; and the earth was made bright with his splendor. 2 And he called out with a mighty voice, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird; 3 for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness." 4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; 5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

Now, which country is this who spread pornography all over the world?

Back to the symbols, let me explain plainly, these symbols are symbols of witchcraft. With the symbols in your house you are summoning and invoking evil spirits to do it's job. That's why it's accursed.

Lets read again that portion of Revelation 18:2
"It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird"

Now, which country again promotes holoween, easter, X'mas, and etc?

These symbols are very ancient and practiced by heathen nations. Yes, we are christians and we have victory over those but we need to clean up our house as we don't want the symbols of the enemy. It's simple and it's subtle. I've already removed and thrown things in my house which represent those, from home decor to cabinet knobs. It's tedious work, but I fear God.

"Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;"

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