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« on: June 09, 2004, 05:03:00 AM »

Types of Unsalvation

We can sum of the sins of the various views very simply showing their unsalvation or carnal Christianity. There are 3 basic groups of carnality. Group 1 being the worse where we can be certain at least 99% are unsaved. Group 2 is bad also and we could say is at least 98% are unsaved. And group 3 is at least 97% unsaved.

The three groups are,

1. historicalists (amill., post-mill., preterisms) blunt the solemn warning at the end of this age so they think they won't know the wrath of God, and they have no faith Christ will return to reign in Person for 1000 yearsand reward His overcomers (note, not all Christians are like those of the 5 wise virgins).

2. pretrib and midtribber onlyists are overassumers and when they go through the Tribulation they won't realize it and take the mark of the beast for their fantasy.

3. posttribber and prewrather onlyists are hardening their spirit waiting for the Antichrist who must proceed Christ, taking away the hope of the church hardening their hearts for with the hope of Christ is an escaping the Hour of trial based on readiness to be received to the throne (Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36).

Each sins in their own unique way.
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2004, 10:24:04 AM »

Well, I happen to believe that the rapture will  happen before the time of wrath.  I am really not sure if that will be before the tribulation begins or during or in the middle.  We will all have to wait and see.
 
Anyway, Jesus relates the return of His kingdom to two stories in Luke 17:22 and another in verse 26.  He tells us how Noah and his family and then Lot in verse 26 were taken from harms way before destruction struck suddenly.  

I don't agree with all of the views or the author of 'unsalvation'.   I agree that those who are planning things out in their minds concerning when Christ is going to return, thinking they have time to mess around and sin, are playing a dangerous game.  Cry

I, however, am not an overassumer and do believe that the rapture will be pre or mid tribulation.  And we are instructed to be on the lookout for his return.  

1 Thessalonians 5:9-For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.  
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2004, 11:45:21 AM »

By the way, does Troy Books ever say where in the world he gets his percentage statistics from?  I didn't think so. He made it up in his mind didn't he. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 12:56:41 PM »

By the way, does Troy Books ever say where in the world he gets his percentage statistics from?  I didn't think so. He made it up in his mind didn't he. Smiley

 Yes, good call. In fact, 100% of his posts are made up in his mind!  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 01:42:32 PM »

Oklahoma Howdy to Christinme,

I would quote part of your post, but that might lend it some credibility. A person's views about the Tribulation Period has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation. I thought that I had seen bogus baloney before, but this material is far beyond bogus baloney.

If you are trying to sell a book, sales to Christians will be non-existent. I think that it's fine to discuss end time events, specifically because it's another reason to study the Holy Bible. However, it is not fine to say that people are lost if they have certain views about the end times. If a person has accepted the perfect GIFT of Jesus Christ on the cross and has HIM as their personal Lord and Saviour, they are saved, regardless of what they may believe about the Tribulation Period.

If this is your book, toss it and start over. Even a babe in Christ would see it as BOGUS BALONEY!  The Holy Bible clearly states the plan of Salvation in the Gospel of God's Grace. I certainly would not want the lost to hear or read what you require to be Saved. Of course, what you require to be Saved is of no interest. What God requires for Salvation is of interest, and it does not resemble your book or whatever it is you are trying to sell. Your link has been removed. Do not put it back on Christians Unite.

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2004, 12:30:30 AM »

The Holy Bible clearly states the plan of Salvation in the Gospel of God's Grace. What God requires for Salvation is of interest.
Amen!!
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2004, 02:16:13 AM »

The Rapture will be initiated by Christ and the power of Christ (as it is with our own salvation) and that power will rapture us into heaven.

Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. Zec 4:6

I deduce that it is not our own will nor our own strength nor our own knowledge nor our own 'mindset' or 'state of mind' that saved us in the past or will rapture us in the future; it is His faith and His strength and His power so that we overcame and in the future will overcome.

I do not have the intention to climb unto heaven with a doctrine, it is mercy, and mercy alone that we are saved and eventually will be raptured
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2004, 04:28:37 AM »

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