The Lord's Day has replaced the Sabbath Law

[aw]

Galatians 4:9,10 condemns the observance of "days, months, times, and years." These were usually observed with the idea of gaining FAVOUR with God.

Colossians 2:16,17 plainly states that the believer in Christ is NOT to be judged with respect to a SABBATH DAY.

Romans 14:5 declares that when the believer is "Persuaded in their own mind" he may esteem all days alike. Hence, ALL days should be full of devotion toward God. Is is 7/7 and not i/7.

The term Christian Sabbath is a MISNOMER. The 1st day of the week has been celebrated since the Lord's resurrection. It is representative of the NEW CREATION realities and is a true sabbath, since we can now REST from our own works in order to please God. Our sabbath REST is because we can now trust completely in His finished work.

aw

[enfant de dieu]

Galatians 4:9,10 condemns the observance of "days, months, times, and years." These were usually observed with the idea of gaining FAVOUR with God.

Colossians 2:16,17 plainly states that the believer in Christ is NOT to be judged with respect to a SABBATH DAY.

Romans 14:5 declares that when the believer is "Persuaded in their own mind" he may esteem all days alike. Hence, ALL days should be full of devotion toward God. Is is 7/7 and not i/7.

The term Christian Sabbath is a MISNOMER. The 1st day of the week has been celebrated since the Lord's resurrection. It is representative of the NEW CREATION realities and is a true sabbath, since we can now REST from our own works in order to please God. Our sabbath REST is because we can now trust completely in His finished work.

aw

You are mistaken in your belief that the sabbath day has changed and should not be honored because the bible clearly states that this is not so.

Mark 2:27,28:"And he said unto them. the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath"
Jesus was saying that he made the Sabbath for us a day where we rest by leaving the troubles of the week behind and putting our full focus on him. Exodus:20:8-10 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"  

What else does God say about the sabbath?
Exodus 31:16,17: Wherefore the children of Isreal shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Isreal for ever:for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed"

Eze. 20:12: "Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them"

Eze.:20:20:"And hollow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord your God"


Did God warn against the impending change of the Sabbath in the bible?
Isa 59:12-14: And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places:thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, the repairer of the breach, the restorer of paths to dwell in. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the savvath a delight, the hold of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure,nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt though delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the eath, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father:for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it"

Isaiah 56:1,2 "Thus saith the Lord, keep ye judgement, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil"

Dan 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most high, and shall wear out the saints of the most high, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into this hand until a time and times and the divinding of time"

What does the new testament say about the Sabbath?

Luke 4:16: "So he [Jesus] came to Nazareth where he had been brought up. And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read."

There is no mention of Sunday being the day of worship in the bible so where did it come from?

Jesus birth or ressurection did not change the sabbath.Matt. 5:17-19: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and each them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Even in death Jesus kept the Sabbath. He died on Friday night and resurrected on Sunday. He "rested" through Sabbath. Matt 28:1-7: Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold , there was a great eathquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door and sat on it. His counternance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men. But the angel answered and said to the women. "Do not be afriad, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. He is not here for he is risen, as he said.Come and see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead, and indeed he is going before you into Galilee; there you will see him, Behold I have told you"

Sunday was orginally a pagan day of worship where the sun god was celebrated. Because many sun worshipers were coming into the early church, pagan and christian practices were mixed. It became a practice to worship on Saturday and Sunday. It wasn't until later that Sunday worship was widely popularized. According to the encyclopedia britannica {11th edition] pg 95) "the earliest recognition of the observance of Sunday as a legal duty is a constitution of Constantine in A.D. 321, enacting that all courts of justice, inhitants of towns, and workshops were to be at rest on Sunday."

This is taken from "A History of the Christian Councils" by Charles Joseph Hefele":  Canon 29 of the council of laodicea states "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honour, and; as being christians shall. if possible. do no work on that day. If. however. they are found Judaizing they shall be shut out from Christ. "

2 Thess 2:3,4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God"
By changing God's law man attempts to be God.

[Raphu]

Is not Jesus the Living Sabbath that we rest from our works inside of?

In Christ we have a better covenant. Hebrews compares the old covenant and the better covenant and what we have through Christ and His fulfillment of the law. The comparison in chapter four is between old and new which is the case throughout Hebrews in showing us what we have in Christ.

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Go back and read Heb. 4:10 again and see that the comparison is made of the rest we enter into in Christ and through he better covenant to the old rest that God took from His works. The work is finished in Him so the verses in Col.2:16, Paul wrote, were given to those that kept on requiring works of the old law, including circumcision and observing the sabbath day. What do you think these verses mean? Our labor, now is to have faith in the work He did for us.

Heb. 4:11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

He is our rest and we are also hidden in Him (Col. 3:3,4). He is the Lord of the Sabbath because He is out sabbath rest. Sabbath means rest and the rest we have in Him and His work through the cross is what we are to boast of - not our vain works of obedience to a day which are like filthy rags compared to His work and sacrifice on the cross. Why go back and believe that our works would be superior to the work of God through His Son's final and once for all work at the cross. To believe Him and honor Him with our faith - that He did accomplish this work, is more precious to Him than gold, whereas those that seek to honor Him with the law must perform all of it to not be guilty breaking it all.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Heb 4:7 - Again he limiteth a certain day,.... Since the seventh day of the creation was a day of rest which God entered into, and not man; and since the land of Canaan was a typical rest, which the unbelieving Israelites did not enter into, because of unbelief; and yet there must be persons, and there must be a time for them to enter into the true rest which God has left a promise of; therefore he has limited, fixed, and appointed a certain day, the Gospel dispensation, for believers to enter into it:

Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, Today, after so long a time; as it is said, Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

My Bible is KJV and has Joshua in 4:8 as the comparison and 4:7 has the saying of David in Ps. 95 about the not hardening of heart.
Heb 4:4-7 -

He spake in a certain place. In Gen_2:2. There it is stated that "God rested on the seventh day from all his works." The Sabbath rest was therefore established long before Israel was denied entrance into the rest. Hence it is not the rest.

In this place again. In Psa_95:11, which declares that Israel should not enter into God's rest. Though Israel had kept the rest of the Sabbath, they had not entered into God's rest, as this language shows. The rest of the Sabbath is not then the promised rest, nor is Canaan below, from which nearly all Israel was once excluded, because David exhorts the people, though in Canaan, to enter into the rest.

Seeing . . . that some must enter. Since God has a rest for his people, and it is not made in vain, there must be some who enter therein. Those to whom it was first offered entered not because of their unbelief. Hence it remaineth to all who, like Joshua and Caleb, have faith.

Again he limiteth a certain day. The thought is that there is a day of opportunity. If that day is passed by, the opportunity is gone. The word of the Lord is, To-day if, etc.

Heb 4:8-11 -

For if Jesus. "Joshua" in the Revision. Jesus is the Greek form of the Hebrew word Joshua. Joshua led Israel over the Jordan into Canaan, but that did not give them complete rest. If that had been true, David would not have exhorted them to seek to enter into rest. Five hundred years after they entered Canaan this exhortation is given in the 95th Psalm.

There remaineth therefore a rest. Since God has a rest for his people, and neither the Sabbath nor Canaan is the rest, these being only types of that rest, a rest remaineth to the people of God.

For he that is entered into his rest. When God rested on the Sabbath, the type of the true rest, his works ceased. So when our rest comes, weary toil, trials and sufferings will be over.

Let us labor therefore. Since this glorious rest, the heavenly rest, remains for faithful believers, we should seek to enter upon it, and especially take heed that we do not come short through unbelieving disobedience as did Israel.

Our rest is in Jesus. Let us not fall short through unbelief and lack of faith.

[aw]

The problem friend is that you have not considered the EPISTLES to the Church(Body of Christ). Not only is there not one mention of sabbath-keeping, but there are specific admonitions to NOT make any day special.

A perusal of Acts will also demonstrate that they refer to it only as the Lord's Day. Some Jewish Christians would continue to go to synagogues, but they were following thier custom and not what the instructions to the Church reveal.

To confound the Lord's Day with sabbatarianism is to mistake the teachings of GRACE with those of LAW.

aw

[enfant de dieu1]

Exodus:20:8-10 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"  

Do you think that it is a concidence that the Sabbath commandment is the only commandment that says Remember?  Why do you choose to forget? You can't pick and choose from the commandments. In this commandment he makes reference to a specific day.

The text you used Exodus:20:8-10 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"  

The "work that is finished" is the fufillment of the prophesy that Jesus would die for our sins so sacrificing animals are no longer needed. If Jesus had meant to abolish the Sabbath he would not have kept it while he was here on earth.  He never said don't keep my commandments. Matt. 5:17-19: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and each them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
IF you deny one commandment you deny all.  Also there are several references to Sabbath being on the 7th day so you cannot say that the Sabbath is the 1st day. The 7th day is the day that is associated with rest so the fact that the first day is creation day is irrelevant. You can't deny the pagan origin of Sunday worship it is in history. Why do you think that their are so many completely different arguments to say that Sunday is the day of Worship. SDA's only have one major argument. The Bible says so in the 10 commandments and the Bible is God's word and I will follow it.
Jewish people deny the New Testament and You choose to deny the Old Testament teachings. The Bible wasn't made for you to pick and choose.
Next time I will comment on each of the verses Raphu stated.

[aw]

Friend, the LAW has been abolished, fulfilled, abrogated, was for national Israel only, and we are no longer under law but grace. He took the ordinances that were against us and naoiles them to His cross. Whosoever thinks he is justified by the law is a debtor to do it all, or be guilty of breaking it all. You cannot pick and chose certain portions of the law- it stands as a complete unit or not at all.

According to your theology, the "wink of the eye" which is adultery makes you also guilty of being a MURDERER!

If you have a dacron or nylon piece of clothing, you have broken a law and are GUILTY and on your way to hell.

Thank God that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. Stay there in misery if you wish. My advice is to get under GRACE and "WALK in the Spirit" because your theology has to rely on flesh only.

aw

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[enfant de dieu1]

aw,
I was not saying adultery is the same as murder but each commandment is important and should be kept as a whole because that is how is was given to us. Sabbath keeping was present even before Moses was presented the commandments. It goes back to creation and should be kept even today. Jesus said himself that he did not come to destroy the law and also the importance to keep each and every commandment: Matt 5:17-19: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, will all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be call great in the kingdom of heaven. "
 Yes we are saved by his grace but to show that we accept that gift that he gave us on the cross and to show that we love him is to follow his word.  Also in Matt 19:16,17  is states "And, Behold one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him. Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God; but If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Grace does not destroy our obligation to keep God's commandment but rather gives us the obligation to obey God and be grateful to him for delivering us from eternal death (Roman. 6:14, 15; Rom 5:1,2)
Is Jesus not our example? When Jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned what did he say to her? "Go and sin no more". He did not say you are saved now continue with your adultery.
Also if he came to destroy the sabbath why did he  keep the Sabbath when he dispelled other Jewish customs such as not healing on the sabbath ,selling merchandise in church and  buying salvation through title. "Luke 4:16: "So he [Jesus] came to Nazareth where he had been brought up. And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read."
 The Apostles never mentioned any change of the Sabbath .Rom 7:7"What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid, Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law:for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shall not covet"
Paul worshiped on the Sabbath Acts 13:14 "But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pistdia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down."

Do you honestly think that man has the authority to change a commandment instilled by God?The only mention of "the first day of the week" are found in Matt. 28:1, Mark 16:1,29; John 20:1,19, Acts 20:7; 1 Cor, 16;1,2. The first six refer to Christ resurrection. The other verses have no mention of that day has being holy so the seventh day is the only day is in the bible is considered sacred and the lord's day.  Also idol worshipers worship their sun god on Sunday when they became Christian they brought that custom with them. It was a way to distance themselves from Judaism.  Sunday worship thereby became a traditional not biblical practice for Christians. I enjoy resting on the sabbath in doing so  I am enriched  spiritually, mentally and physically. I am not saying that I can keep his word and commandments alone but with God's help I can do all things. God is the only one who has authority over the Sabbath since he didn't change it no one else should.  I encourage you to put aside teaching and traditions that you uphold and instead study the bible for yourself. I have never excepted any teaching man has presented without searching to see if it corresponds with bible.  I ask you to do the same.

[aw]

and indeed I have brother. There is NOT one beseeching, injunction, or commandment to the BODY OF CHRIST (CHURCH) to keep a certain day. As I have already stated, we are told NOT to esteem certain days as any more sacred than others. (Gal and Col)

Sabbatariansism is in direct opposition to the teaching of GRACE and bind one to keep all of the law if it is required for salvation/justification and/or blessing. It requires one to perform it all or be guilty of breaking it all. (James)

Sabbath- keeping is CHERRY-PICKING from O.T. Law and causes one to FALL FROM GRACE.

I'm just trying to help, but to the legalists who insist on the law, be my guest but I know that I have been redemmed from the CURSE of the LAW. If you want the CURSE, then enjoy it.

aw

[Sparrow]

aw,

...Do you honestly think that man has the authority to change a commandment instilled by God?The only mention of "the first day of the week" are found in Matt. 28:1, Mark 16:1,29; John 20:1,19, Acts 20:7; 1 Cor, 16;1,2. The first six refer to Christ resurrection. The other verses have no mention of that day has being holy so the seventh day is the only day is in the bible is considered sacred and the lord's day.  Also idol worshipers worship their sun god on Sunday when they became Christian they brought that custom with them. It was a way to distance themselves from Judaism.  Sunday worship thereby became a traditional not biblical practice for Christians. I enjoy resting on the sabbath in doing so  I am enriched  spiritually, mentally and physically. I am not saying that I can keep his word and commandments alone but with God's help I can do all things. God is the only one who has authority over the Sabbath since he didn't change it no one else should.  I encourage you to put aside teaching and traditions that you uphold and instead study the bible for yourself. I have never excepted any teaching man has presented without searching to see if it corresponds with bible.  I ask you to do the same.

(I'm a newbie, in fact this in my first post, but I HAD to put in my two cents.) =)

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said, enfant. The law is still valid...of COURSE! If you think about it, it's even MORE valid TODAY because JESUS died for us.

The whole grace -vs- law issue. C'mon you guys, don't miss the whole point!   We had a set of laws to live by, we HAD to abide by those laws or we wouldn't be saved. Whenever you FORCE anyone to do anything....it's not a pretty picture, is it? Jesus came down and paid the price FOR us so that we would have salvation. NOW...since we are saved by GRACE, not by LAW, having that burden lifted off of us, why would we THEN choose to IGNORE the law? The law has become something else ENTIRELY!   Now, we don't strive to obey the law to gain salvation...we strive to obey the law to glorify God! There is NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING...we can do to repay Jesus for what he did on the cross, the very bottom of the barrel LEAST we can do is obey the commandments. The commandments are just a given. That shouldn't even be an issue anymore, y'know? 10 commandments? OF COURSE! Will we sometimes fail...? OF COURSE! But do we stop trying to be the best we can be, just because someone else already paid the debt?

Btw...the sabbath, it IS for man. Especially in this hectic, sped-up world we live in, you just would not believe the difference keeping the sabbath (the true sabbath, saturday) has made. God set aside the sabbath and sanctified it. Saturday DOES have a special "feel" to it. The 4th commandment...is a gift to us. Try it a few times, before you knock it.   (seriously, since I did all my research on this subject, and tried it myself...I absolutely understand the whole idea behind the 4th commandment. It is just such a remarkable gift, in my opinion. Especially if you spend a lot of time outside...I don't know how to explain it. It's like GOD DID infuse his spirit into that day. Just a day to take your mind off of your worries/ off of WORDLY stuff, and rest in the Lord.)

And the whole 7/7 idea is again, just a GIVEN. OF COURSE. Knowing what Jesus did for us on the cross for us, shouldn't we always be filled with gratitude, everyday? yeah! But the 7/7 idea doesn't have anything to do with the Sabbath.The sabbath day isn't the day we try to be holy, or try to be better christians, we strive for that everyday, don't we?   The Sabbath is a day of rest. We surely can't REST everyday. And the (just pick any ol' day) isn't good enough either. God SANCTIFIED the 7th day. He WANTS you to rest in the 7th day for a reason. It's FOR man, not FOR God.

Above all, love they neighbor as thyself. Right? All the divisions, all the condemnations...all the "I'm right! You're wrong" that christians so often times have to deal with from other christians, (not neccessarily HERE, but you guys know what I'm talking about) it just divides us. All the things I'm saying here are purely out of love for my fellow brothers and sisters. Love thy neighbor as thyself...EXACTLY! If my christian friend chooses NOT to observe the sabbath, who am I to judge??  All I can do is just explain my point of view, and just my experiences, and that's it. There are most definitely things that I believe that my friend doesn't believe. We're all trying our best, and we have to love each other, and never let ourselves get DIVIDED!

We ALL believe that Jesus died on the cross for US. That is the MOST important point.

No, I don't have any hidden meanings or any hidden condemnations...nothing like that at ALL. I don't belong to any church. I have fellowship with small groups of people, who are just all trying to serve Jesus, and seek out the truth.

And be not conformed to this world; but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God. (Rom. 12:2)

 
The thing I really dislike is the folks (and we all run into them all the time, don't we?)  "..if you don't do this" or "if you don't do that" ...YOU'RE GOING TO HELL.   Oh BROTHER! I hate that kinda arrogance. That kind of teaching/preaching has sooo twisted the words of God and Gods grace. God doesn't want FORCED love! He want's TRUE LOVE.

Well...sorry this was so long..
I hope at least SOMEONE finds some sense in this post...eek!
Love,
Sparrow

P.S. Please remember, the LAW that I'm referring to is the Ten Commandments...that were written in STONE.
But again, freedom to choose...what you do is between you and God, and let no man judge you. (as it should be.)

[ollie]

Galatians 4:9,10 condemns the observance of "days, months, times, and years." These were usually observed with the idea of gaining FAVOUR with God.

Colossians 2:16,17 plainly states that the believer in Christ is NOT to be judged with respect to a SABBATH DAY.

Romans 14:5 declares that when the believer is "Persuaded in their own mind" he may esteem all days alike. Hence, ALL days should be full of devotion toward God. Is is 7/7 and not i/7.

The term Christian Sabbath is a MISNOMER. The 1st day of the week has been celebrated since the Lord's resurrection. It is representative of the NEW CREATION realities and is a true sabbath, since we can now REST from our own works in order to please God. Our sabbath REST is because we can now trust completely in His finished work.

aw

You are mistaken in your belief that the sabbath day has changed and should not be honored because the bible clearly states that this is not so.

Mark 2:27,28:"And he said unto them. the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath"
Jesus was saying that he made the Sabbath for us a day where we rest by leaving the troubles of the week behind and putting our full focus on him. Exodus:20:8-10 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"  

What else does God say about the sabbath?
Exodus 31:16,17: Wherefore the children of Isreal shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Isreal for ever:for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed"

Eze. 20:12: "Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them"

Eze.:20:20:"And hollow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord your God"


Did God warn against the impending change of the Sabbath in the bible?
Isa 59:12-14: And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places:thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, the repairer of the breach, the restorer of paths to dwell in. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the savvath a delight, the hold of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure,nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt though delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the eath, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father:for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it"

Isaiah 56:1,2 "Thus saith the Lord, keep ye judgement, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil"

Dan 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most high, and shall wear out the saints of the most high, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into this hand until a time and times and the divinding of time"

What does the new testament say about the Sabbath?

Luke 4:16: "So he [Jesus] came to Nazareth where he had been brought up. And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read."

There is no mention of Sunday being the day of worship in the bible so where did it come from?

Jesus birth or ressurection did not change the sabbath.Matt. 5:17-19: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and each them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Even in death Jesus kept the Sabbath. He died on Friday night and resurrected on Sunday. He "rested" through Sabbath. Matt 28:1-7: Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold , there was a great eathquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door and sat on it. His counternance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men. But the angel answered and said to the women. "Do not be afriad, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. He is not here for he is risen, as he said.Come and see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead, and indeed he is going before you into Galilee; there you will see him, Behold I have told you"

Sunday was orginally a pagan day of worship where the sun god was celebrated. Because many sun worshipers were coming into the early church, pagan and christian practices were mixed. It became a practice to worship on Saturday and Sunday. It wasn't until later that Sunday worship was widely popularized. According to the encyclopedia britannica {11th edition] pg 95) "the earliest recognition of the observance of Sunday as a legal duty is a constitution of Constantine in A.D. 321, enacting that all courts of justice, inhitants of towns, and workshops were to be at rest on Sunday."

This is taken from "A History of the Christian Councils" by Charles Joseph Hefele":  Canon 29 of the council of laodicea states "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honour, and; as being christians shall. if possible. do no work on that day. If. however. they are found Judaizing they shall be shut out from Christ. "

2 Thess 2:3,4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God"
By changing God's law man attempts to be God.

Is there an example of first century Christians observing a physical/natural sabbath day? Or is the teaching and example given that they are/or will be in the Lord's sabbath through faith in Jesus Christ?

Did not Christ observe the physical/natural sabbath, because "the law" was still in effect due to His having not yet fulfilled it on the cross? Jesus Christ lived under "the law", the statutes and ordinances of the first covenant. He was not guilty of any transgressions. He obeyed, He did as it said.

Ollie

[Trev]

To the person who wanted to know
"Is there an example of first century Christians observing a physical/natural sabbath day?"

"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures." Acts 17:2. "Paul and his company ... went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down." Acts 13:13, 14. "And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither." Acts 16:13. "And he [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4.
The apostles taught it:
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." "And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." Acts 13:42, 44, emphasis added. "And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4.

I hope this helps  

[I_Believe]

I wouldn't read to much into Paul reasoning with them on the Sabbath.

For though I was free from all, I brought myself under bondage to all, that I might gain the more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law  (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law. To the weak I became as weak, that I might gain the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I may by all means save some. Now I do this for the sake of the Good News, that I may be a joint partaker of it. (1Co 9:19-23)

[Trev]

Which day is the Lord's Day?
While John was on the Isle of Patmos he wrote "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day" (Rev. 1:10). This is the first place in the Bible that we have the expression "Lord's Day."
The most generally entertained view is that the "Lord's Day" is the first day (Sunday). The only inspired writers who speak of the first day are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Paul; and they never speak of it in a manner to distinguish it above any other of the six working days. If it were to be called the Lord's Day from the fact of Christ's resurrection upon it, the Bible would have said so. There are other events that are just as important to the plan of salvation such as the crucifixion and the ascension. Since there is no instruction, why not call one of these days the Lord's Day?

On the other hand, Mark 2:28 says, "The Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”  In other words, the Sabbath is the Lord's Day. Matthew 12:8 (KJV) says it better "The Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."
When God gave to man in the beginning six days of the week for labor, He expressly reserved the seventh day to Himself, placing His blessing upon it, and claimed it as His holy day. (Genesis 2:1-3.)  Thus we see that whether it be the Father or the Son whose title is involved, no other day can be called the Lord’s Day but the Sabbath of the great Creator.

[Trev]

Deut. 10:5, Heb 9:4, and 1 Kings 8:9 tell us that Moses placed the commandments, written on stone, inside the ark.
Revelation 11:19, “The temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple, the ark of His testament…” It was called “the ark of His testament,” but it could not have been so called, had it not contained the law. Here then was the ark in heaven, which must consequently be the great original of which the commandments on the tables in the earthly ark were but a copy. In other words, the commandments are also in heaven! We have a copy that must be exactly like the original.
Psalms 111:7,8 “7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. 8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.” From this I understand that the commandments are eternal. No part can be changed or abolished.

Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Revelation 14:12, “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” From these two texts one can see that one of the signs of the true church in the end times is the observance of God’s commandments.

If keeping all 10 commandments instead of 9 makes one a "legalist", then I am guilty.

[enfant de dieu1]

and indeed I have brother. There is NOT one beseeching, injunction, or commandment to the BODY OF CHRIST (CHURCH) to keep a certain day. As I have already stated, we are told NOT to esteem certain days as any more sacred than others. (Gal and Col)

Sabbatariansism is in direct opposition to the teaching of GRACE and bind one to keep all of the law if it is required for salvation/justification and/or blessing. It requires one to perform it all or be guilty of breaking it all. (James)

Sabbath- keeping is CHERRY-PICKING from O.T. Law and causes one to FALL FROM GRACE.

I'm just trying to help, but to the legalists who insist on the law, be my guest but I know that I have been redemmed from the CURSE of the LAW. If you want the CURSE, then enjoy it.

aw

In the bible there are two types of laws mentioned in the New Testmanent...ceremonial law and moral law. Ceremonial law would be ritual matters such circumcision, meat offerings as atonement for sin. Ceremonial obligations such as these were ended at the cross not moral ten commandments.
The ten commandments do not deal with any ceremonial issues, they came straight from his mouth and  were edged into stone by God's own finger.

In regards to the various verses you quoted from Galations and Colosians. I strongly recommend you take a more indebt look at the bible.  

I believe that this is the text you are referring to In Galations 4:9,10 it states "But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage. You observe days and months and seasons and years. "

Also Colossians 2:16,17: "Therefore let no man judge you in food or in drink; or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths.""which are a shadow of things to come but the substance is of Christ."

To understand these verses you have to understand early Jewish customs. In Leviticus 23, it describes the difference between observing the sabbath and participating in Sabbath festivals.   These festivals were celebrated on specific sabbaths  once a year or on fixed dates of certain months, such as the Passover sabbath on the fourteenth day of the first month. These are the ceremonial laws that were abolished. In Colossians it speaks of the festivals as being "a shadow of things to come". None of the 10 Commandments fit that description instead they are everlasting principles.

Grace and Law

Grace means pardon, love, mercy,kindness. Jesus's grace saved us from eternal condemnation or eternal death.

By faith we accept his grace. What exactly does that mean?
Well in Romans 3:28 is states "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law" Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."

Yes we are saved by grace but grace does not free us from observing God's law.
1 John 3:4 says "Whosever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness."


If the moral laws were abolished then that would be that there is no sin Romans 4:15 states: "For where there is no law there is no transgression. "
 
It also states in Romans 7:7-14  that law and commandment are "holy", " just" and "good".   If you believe that Paul is speaking of abolishing all law then that would mean that the bible is contradicting itself because their are biblical references that up hold the law (moral law) and abolishing laws (ceremonial law) in the New Testament. The 10 commandments are moral laws because they are a vision of God's character. Everyone of them reveals to us how we can be more like him. It's sad that you would consider the precious gift he gave to us as a curse.