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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:IRAQ
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on: December 23, 2003, 10:52:16 PM
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He teaches us factually through His Word and has done for generations. His word is written for all people not just vain intellectuals and scientists. Geologists like all ists have there own agendas and that's not God's agenda. They pluck numbers out of the air and rely on carbon dating which is a flawed measuring system ie one size fits all.
"Put not your trust in princes nor in men"
I often think how lucky our ancestors were who didn't have all these servants of the devil ramming mumbo jumbo data down their throats.
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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:IRAQ
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on: December 23, 2003, 09:15:42 PM
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In the beginning the earth was empty and void some translate this as chaos and confusion. I don't think it realy matters.
The Creation took place approx 6,000 years ago. Adam & Eve were placed in the garden of Eden and God created the animals and all creatures to be there in the garden with them. This included dinosaurs and probably 1,000's of other species which along with the dinosaurs died out, mostly after the flood.
As I have said earlier the pre-flood world was very different from our world today. I tried to explain about the water barrier in the atmosphere (only to be mocked) that protected mankind from the sun. Today we only have a depleted ozone layer to protect us and any medical scientist will tell you that it is the sun's rays that age us prematurely. Hence pre-flood people lived to 700, 800 even 900+ years of age.
The water barrier was held in the sky until the time of the flood when it fell from the sky for the first time. The rainbow was a sign to Noah that the Lord would never bring another total flood to earth. This must mean there was no rain before the flood (rain plus sunshine = rainbow) and the earth was irrigated by springs and under ground acquifers. If you read the account of the flood these springs and acquifers also contributed to the flood.
The molten core of our earth suggests it is a very young planet not billions of years old, because of its fluid state it would be easy for God to divide the earth as stated in Genesis 10:25 Do we have a powerful God or not? Do you believe His word or don't you? The word of God is not a written buffet where you can go round and pick this bit and reject that bit because you don't like it nor understand it.
The Bible refers to creature called the Leviathan, a huge creature. I'll leave you to work that out for yourselves.
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Questions about percived biblical attrocities
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on: December 23, 2003, 02:40:38 PM
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Petro,
Your stand point in this discussion is becoming like shifting sands.
Jesus' physical people are Israelites, His spritual people are from all races. Jesus instructed his disciples to take the message to the lost tribes of Israel FIRST. If Israel is not important then why do they get mentioned in Revelation in such a SPECIAL way.
We were discussing physical Israelites of the OT. Not spiritual Israelites.
Universalism - what is that?
Many are called, few are chosen. True, but for what and for when. Do you know Petro? I suppose you also consider those who are not chosen are immediately damned.
Have I begun to get personal and accusatory with you Petro? My spiritual situation with my wife is perfect in God's sight, for where two or more are gathered in My name.....
MANY - this is the crucial word Petro. Where do you find many who claim to be Christian, why in mainstream churches of course where else will you find them. How many non-believers do know that can stand before God and say those things. I am part of a minority, and I know others who have done the same.
Most mainstream churches are tainted with ROME as most are just schisms of Rome. There is now at this moment in time a clamouring for unity with Rome by MANY denominations (demonic divisions) and if I am correct this even includes your Southern Baptist churches. Our Anglican church certainly wants it.
Petro I am going to challenge you to purge Rome from your belief system. This means to question who taught you what you know. What authority taught you and what were their origins. For I tell you the truth Augustine was a counterfeiter just another servant of Rome. Protestantism only protested it did not break away completely. Sunday is not the Lord's day for example. I will leave it here for now.
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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:What race is "Gods chosen people?"
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on: December 23, 2003, 01:24:59 AM
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The Israelites are God's chosen people, you just have to know who they are. They are Israelites who are born again Christians along with the Gentiles who are also born again. They are all equal in God's sight but the Israelites do get a special mention in Revelation as in the last days there will only be 144,000 of them.
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Questions about percived biblical attrocities
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on: December 23, 2003, 12:57:27 AM
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Petro
The Israelites were and are His people. He Himself was a Jew, an Israelite. JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF ALL MANKIND PETRO. Adam and Eve - Cain and Abel you name 'em Jesus will resurrect 'em and give them a chance. What about all the babies and young children that died in those times. Those children who were sacrifices to Molech - where do you differenciate Petro - how old do you have to be to receive mercy or have it denied, or judged by this tyrannical god of yours.
What of the Israelites that didn't rebel they still died in their sins are they condemned too, Petro?
If we go by the yardstick used on this forum Jesus' failure rate would be a disgrace.
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Theology / Apologetics / The Trinity Doctrine
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on: December 22, 2003, 11:17:33 PM
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Do you teach or support The Trinity Doctrine on this forum?
If so can you show me in the Bible where it mentions it and teaches it.
Please don't quote 1 John 5:7 for this is a spurious verse added by the Roman Catholics, and anything they do, is of the Devil.
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Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Questions & Answers
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on: December 22, 2003, 10:44:32 PM
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ref: Babylon is in Iraq 55 miles of Baghdad.
Babylon is in Italy ie Rome. The Italians are descended from the Babylonians.
The present day occupants of Iraq are mostly Arabs - Abraham's descendants through his handmaid Hagar.
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Questions about percived biblical attrocities
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on: December 22, 2003, 09:21:22 PM
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Petro,
With respect you have ignored my first statement ie. that Jesus died for all sins PAST[/b present and future. The unbelief of the Israelites was not the same unbelief as our unbelief would be. THEY WERE NOT BORN AGAIN - THEY DID NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT RESIDING WITHIN THEM. Their punishment LIKE MOSES' was not entering the Promised Land.
IF YOU condemn these Israelites then the same condemnation hangs over Moses. Are YOU prepared to condemn Moses?
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Going to Heaven.
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on: December 22, 2003, 08:30:04 PM
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Sower,
Thank you for your reply, as some think they are going to be floating aimlessly around in Heaven - something that scripture doesn't support.
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