Thanks Tom for your post.   

In the end times, we see that Satan and his angels will be thrown out of heaven.

Rev 12: 7-9:     "And war broke out in heaven;  Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;  and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

(As an additional item......note that Michael is the leader of the good angels)


"So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;  he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." 


Jesus also made the following statement in Luke 10:18:    "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."


Would would this sound like.......Jesus making this statement in Hebrew?


"Satan Barack O Bama"   

http://donnettebower.multiply.com/journal/item/1218



As such.....we need to keep an eye on him.  As many of you probably know......there is much question about the legitimacy of his birth records.  And we know from various passages in Scripture that angels can inhabit human bodies.......or appear as humans. 


So Satan might be temporarily inhabiting the body of our current president.......wild as that might seem. 


As I mentioned earlier, I felt that Hitler would be paying us a return visit.......and that he would be the man of evil that requires others to take the mark......at the midpoint of Daniel's 70th week and for awhile thereafter. 


So I am looking for our president perhaps to be assassinated at some time in the future.......or meet his death in some other manner.........and then rise again 3 days later in a Satanic imitation of Christ's resurrection.  He will rise again as Adolph Hitler.......and many in the world will be in awe.......and follow after him.  Satan will move from Obama's body to Hitlers. 


I know that this is pretty wild and that no one reading this will believe it possible.......but at least try to store it in the back of your mind somewhere.  The return of Hitler.....as well as the rest of the chaos going on in the world......could lead Israel to begin again their daily sacrifice of animals.....as a desperate cry to God. 


As an additional item..... 150,000 high level Nazis were smuggled out of Europe near the end of WW2 with much wealth.  Over the years, they infiltrated into high level positions within the United States.......in science, business, politics, etc.    You can read more about this in the book:  "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Marrs.............and can also find some interviews with him on YouTube.  This is why our country at this time resembles Nazi Germany in the 1930's..........with the USA progressively moving closer and closer toward Fascism.     President Kennedy wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve, get us out of Vietnam, and put us on a Silver Standard for the currency.   He was killed shortly thereafter.     


The date of the terrible oil spill in the Gulf......the day that it all began......was Hitler's birthday.  We still do not know what the full effects of this will be.........the tremendous amount of oil that went into the ocean as well as the poison Corexit that was sprayed on it.  From what I have heard......the gulf stream has been affected......which could lead to much colder weather in Europe.  The Jet Stream also appears to have altered its usual course.  This and other factors could have an effect on crop production in the future.   


Study the sky sometimes as well.           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8           

When the man of evil comes, he will in my opinion make an allegiance with the ten reigning banking families of the world.  These ten are of one mind.......and they will give their power and authority to the beast.......in exchange for visible rulership of the world with the anti-christ.   The anti-christ will remove three of them.

The following are perhaps the ten:   Rothchilds (London), Rothchilds (Berlin), Lazard Brothers (Paris), Israel Seiff (Italy), Kuhn-Loeb (Germany), Warburgs (Amsterdam), Warburgs (Hamburg).........and the three American offspring:  Lehman Brothers (New York), Goldman Sachs (New York), and Rockfeller/JP Morgan Chase (New York).

Two sections of Scripture pertinent to this are:      Rev. 17: 8-17 and Daniel 7: 23-25


Rev 17 has some interesting features as some of the verses are written for the benefit of John......in his time perspective..........while other verses are written for the benefit of end-time readers......from their time perspective.

For example, verse 10 is written in the present tense when John received the vision.......approx 90's AD:   

"There are also seven kings.  Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come.  And when he comes, he must continue a short time." 

In my opinion, the seven are leaders of countries who have persecuted Israel......and even attempted to extinguish them.  This in my view is a deluded effort by Satan to interfere with the promise that God made to Abraham for his act of faith/obedience.  (Gen 22). 

So when John wrote Rev 17.......five kings had fallen before his time.  The one that is......is the Roman emperor in power during his time.  The one that is to come for a short time in the future from John's time.....and continue a short time......in my opinion.....was Hitler. 


Verse 11 then changes time perspective for the benefit of end-time readers.  "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition." 

So from our timeframe.......one of the past seven leaders who persecuted Israel will come back to life.  He will be the 8th.........and is one of the seven. 


He will be released from the bottomless pit to come back to this world.  Those who are not in the Book of Life will marvel at the one who has come back to life.  (verse


The only one of the past seven who the world would recognize would be the most recent of the seven......namely Adolph Hitler.  Hitler was able to brainwash nearly all the people in his country.  I have included a link to one of his past speeches.  He begins his speech in a normal fashion but within a few minutes it appears that a demon takes over.  This is probably why he was able to hypnotize so many people so easily.  He mentions in his speech his 1000 year Reich...........a false and evil substitute for Christ's millennial kingdom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGhdX1SI3KY

The following text also suggests that there will be no NEW BELIEVERS coming to Christ after the man of evil comes on the scene.........at the middle of Daniel's 70th week.  God will send a strong delusion upon the world.  This will probably be somewhat similar to how He hardened Pharaoh's heart. 


"And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.  The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


"And for this reason, GOD WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE,


"that they ALL may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."


2 Thess 2: 8-11

The abomination of desolation:


1.  "standing in the holy place....."     (Mt 24:15)

2.  "standing where it ought not...."    (Mark 13: 14)

3.  "and place there the abomination of desolation...."   (Daniel 11: 31)

4.  "And from the times that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is SET UP......."  (Daniel 12: 11)


So we see that it is:         Placed there.......Set up.........Seen standing.


"Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.  And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.  He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 

"And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an IMAGE TO THE BEAST WHO WAS WOUNDED BY THE SWORD AND LIVED. 

"He was granted power to GIVE BREATH TO THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST, THAT THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST SHOULD BOTH SPEAK AND CAUSE AS MANY AS WOULD NOT WORSHIP THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST TO BE KILLED.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or name of the beast, or the number of his name." 

So it appears that the Abomination is a statue made in the likeness of the anti-christ.......that is given breath......so that it might speak.......and also be able to kill people who do not worship him.   It is placed, set up, and seen standing in the Holy Place.   

Thanks Tom......I agree. 


The banker elites.......descendants of the moneychangers who Christ threw out of the temple........have been controlling the world and progressively gobbling up its wealth since the time of the French Revolution.  I believe that they contributed to this Revolution whereby the Royal bloodlines where brought down.........and then they replaced them.  It is actually quite clever as the masses cannot take them down as they are not clearly visibly.......as with visible Kings and Queens.   The first of these families were the Rothchilds and it is impossible to now compute the scale of their wealth.  They are the ones who brought in the Federal Reserve Bank.  Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, and others warned us about them. 

"The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all other kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, trample it and break it in pieces."

"And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet (no visible kingdom), but they receive authority for one hour as kings (visible kings) with the beast.  These are of ONE MIND, and they will give their power and authority to the beast."


Daniel 7: 23      Rev. 17: 12-13


They engineered the current world economic crisis in order to usher in a time of chaos.  After a time......people will cry out to them for order.   They will then usher in a one world system with them ruling as visible oligarchs.... with the man of evil. 

Thanks so much nChrist. 


"And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning.  Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, 'John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.'

"If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?"

"When they heard these things they became silent;  and they glorified God, saying, 'Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life."
 

Acts Chp 11

It is an invisible kingdom until Christ returns. 


There are some in this church.......some in that church.......here......and there.......and some that might not even be found in a church building.


The real Church is not physical buildings........but individuals who are part of the body of Christ.   These are the ones who love Christ with their whole heart..... and have turned their lives over to Him.


God knows who they are.

Here is the monthly graph for Gold priced in U.S. dollars dating back to 1995.


It is mostly a reflection of the U.S. dollar going down with respect to Gold. 


http://futuresource.quote.com/quotes/chart.action?symbol=GC&compareTo=&topsyms=GC&month=&year=2011&chartAggregation=M&chartStyle=BAR&chartSize=650x450&chartDensity=MEDIUM&userStudies=&x=42&y=13

Thanks   nChrist   for the post and have a nice week.   

The faith, obedience, and actions of a single person must never be underestimated........and this is something that should be seriously considered in our daily walk with the Lord.  Though we are but grains of sand......vapor......we as individuals are very precious in God's sight. 

It was because of the faith/obedience of a single man, namely Abraham, that a whole group of people will have a part in the future that God has planned.......both the physical and spiritual descendants of Abraham (Gen 22 and Romans Chps 9---11).

It was also because God was pleased with a single man, namely Noah, that we are even here today.


"Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.  And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.  So the Lord said, 'I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord."         (Gen 6: 5-7)


Having thus preserved a remnant of His creation..........God would therefore have to humble Himself, put on flesh, to go to the cross for His creation.


Praise God for this great gift of love........for His kindness, mercy, and grace.


"Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time, casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you."
   

Thanks for the input.  The Hebrew language is indeed complex. 

In my opinion, Israel will not have an easy time during the second half of Daniel's 70th week.  God will reconcile Himself with Israel upon completion of all 70 weeks......when Christ returns.  God will however preserve a remnant during the difficult times of the 70th week to defend His Word and promise to Abraham as found in Gen 22.     See also Ezek Chps 34 thru 39.    There is nothing really good or special about the people of Israel.......but God will preserve a remnant to defend His Word and Holy Name.   Satan will not be allowed to destroy all of Israel.  (Rev 12: 13-17).........as he has tried to do on many occasions. 

Upon reading The Book of Zephaniah, Jerusalem is included in the Day of the Lord wrath from God (Chp 1).  This does not include the 144,000 that God has sealed from harm.  God will preserve a remnant of Israel (Chp 3: 8-13).......a group which is described as meek, humble and who trust in the Lord. 

I am no expert at languages but just did this out of curiosity.  I went to Google and typed in "English to Hebrew."  I then put the English phrase "stand still" in.......and got a Hebrew word back (in 4 symbols which I am not sure how to put on here).  I then typed the English phrase "stand up" into the translater....and got back the exact same Hebrew word. 

Next I went to Google and typed in "Hebrew word for stand still".   The verb 'amal came up which had multiple meanings.......including both "stand up" and "stand still."


http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=05975


So it appears that Daniel 12:1 can be translated either way and you just have to read the whole chapter to get the implied meaning.


"At that time Michael shall stand up (or stand still), the great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people, and there shall be a time of trouble.........."

To my knowledge......"The Tribulation Period" is not found in Scripture.  If anyone can find it......where it is clearly defined as the same thing as Daniel's 70th week......please let me know.

As such, the Pre-Wrath position (and myself as well) view it as a human invention and an addition to Scripture.  You have to therefore be very careful about the use of it. 

For example, the Pre-Trib position believes that the "Tribulation period" is God's wrath and that Chrisitians will be raptured prior to God's wrath.  However, there is no seven year "Tribulation Period" found in Scripture.......all you have is Daniel's 70th week. 

Daniel's 70th week as mentioned above......as well as the 70 weeks prophecy as a whole.......was given to Daniel as an answer to his prayers for his people Israel.  There is no indication anywhere that God's wrath upon the world begins at the beginning of Daniel's 70th week.  You have at the beginning of it a peace covenant between the man of evil and Israel.....which may or may not be publicized to the general public.  Then sometime after that the daily sacrificial system in Israel resumes.........then at the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week the evil one stops the daily sacrifice and sets up the abomination of desolation at the holy place.  Then all hell breaks out upon the world.  It is at the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week that Jesus instructs people to flee to the mountains. 

So there really is no indication that God's wrath has begun during the first half of Daniel's 70th week.  In my opinion, God's wrath will be clearly evident to all.......and everyone will know that it is coming from Him. 

The Seven Seals of Christ were given by Christ for the Church.   While Christ opens all 7 of the seals, this does not necessarily mean that all seven seals are God's wrath.  The 5th Seal for example involves the cry of the martyrs. 

It is also incorrect to assume that the 7 Seals are exactly the same thing as Daniel's 70th week.  There is nothing in Scripture defining the 7 Seals as being seven years in duration.....and the final seven years.   The first two Seals are somewhat vague........and could have been broken hundreds of years ago.  The 3rd Seal and 4th Seals are specific......and we have not yet seen them. 

If the First Seal was God's wrath........then why weren't the 144,000 of Israel sealed from harm prior to the First Seal?

Instead.......they are sealed from harm just prior to the 7th Seal. 


The 6th Seal announces that the Day of the Lord and His wrath is about to begin.  The whole world goes black for an unspecified amount of time.  The great ones of the earth hide in fear in caves.  They know what is coming.  They say: 

"Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!  For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"


The 144,000 of Israel are then sealed from harm.  They will remain on earth.  After this a great multitude from all the nations is talked about in heaven.  They can wear robes and have palm branches in their hands.


Then you have God's wrath......the 7th Seal.  The 5th trumpet judgment by itself is 5 months in duration.


So........you have the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week........then Satan's wrath as expressed through the man of evil, false prophet, and man.  After a time God will end this......otherwise no flesh would be saved.  Then you have God's wrath as described in the 7th Seal. 


God has not appointed us to wrath......namely His wrath.   


This is the Pre-Wrath position........which in my opinion is correct. 


God can supernaturally take care of you even in the worst of situations.  He is there to fight your battles for you........just as He did for Israel when they were leaving Egypt.  Let us have the faith of a mustard seed.....the smallest of all seeds.   

From this particular source, two different Hebrew words were used.

iomd:    he-shall-stand-up

e.omd:   the-one-standing


http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm


In an case, Michael the archangel......the one who God has assigned as prince over Israel (Daniel 10:13 and Daniel 10:21).......the one who stands watch over Israel (Daniel 12:1).......will take a certain action (stand up) which will be closely followed by the worst time of trouble that Israel and all the nations have ever seen.......including the daily sacrifice being stopped and the abomination of desolation being set up in the holy place (Daniel 12: 11)

It is at this time the Jesus our Lord instructs people to leave everything behind and flee to the mountains (Mt 24).


God will supernaturally preserve a remnant in the wilderness.  (Rev 12)