Hi Dan P

The "novice" has read Dan.9:7.  Of course it was to the Jew.  The OT  law was ONLY to the Jew.  In fact Dan.9:11 says "Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law,- - "

Yet, such is different in Acts 2.  The "afar off" and "as many as the Lord our God shall call" incliudes now the Gentile.  Jesus said  "Go into all nations" Matt.28 and Mark quotes Jesus saing "Go ye into all the world" and Luke 24 has Jesus the Christ saying "all nations".

God bless,
the "novice"

Hi Dan

Well Dan there you go again messing with the truth to your own destruction. 

You wrote:  "_ _ _ AND IF YOU LOOK UP THE GREEK TEXT FOR PLURAL OR SINGULAR, WATCH HOW I SPELL IT, EKKLESIA, AND JUST BECAUSE IN ENGLISH IT HAS CHURCHES DOES NOT MAKE IT SO!!"

I have read the Greek text and there is a PLURL before Christ in Rom.16:16.  I shall provide you with the spelling for  the plural of EKKLESIA, its:  'EKKLASIA'.    The plural may be found  (besides Rom.16:16) in such places as:  Acts 15:41;  I Cor.7:17; IICor.8:19; I Thes.2:14 and II Thes.1:4 for a few examples for there are others.  You may learn this from Thayer, pg.196.

The name you  gave this topic is ''WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS CHURCH?"  Again I ask what you refuse to answer:  If in Rom.16:16 they are called "churches of Christ" in the plural, WHAT WOULD THEY BE CALLED IN THE SINGULAR??  Either way you go, plural or singular my answer to  the question of YOUR topic is correct!  Now DEAL with it!

While you do, if you do, God bless---duval

No problem Dan

"_ _ _ to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call."  The same vers I already gave you Dan, now please deal with it.

And, God bless you as you try- - - -duval

Hi Dan

So far as gentiles are concerned, what link does vs. 30 have with vs. 39?  Please give answer to vs.39.

God bless,
duval

Well, OK Dan.  How about this:"For the promise is unto kyou, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."  Acts 2:39.

Most  respectfully,
duval

Hi Dan P

No comedy at all Dan, except the fact you will not handle Rom.16:16.  It indeed would be hilarious were it not so SAD!

Best wishes Dan
duval

Hi Mr. Roger

We agree on some things, praise God!

We agree that Jesus is the administrator of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

We also agree I Cor.12:13 includes "all" in the "one body."

Thank you.

I believe the scripture teaches that only the apostles were baptized in the Holy Spirit, and that it occured but ONCE. 

Yoiu have said the two questions I've asked both you and nChrist are not relevant to the subject.  I do, and ask you to answer them.  I have.

Neither Tit.3:5 nor I Cor.12:13 teaches that Holy Spirit baptism "washes away sin".  I have shown that by calling your attention to the fact that  neither passage memtions Holy Spirit baptism.


This is said to be a debate forum but a real one is when it is a "one-on-one!  I therefore invite kyou or nChrist
or JIerry or James to engage in one.  This incliudes Dam P as well.
God bless all, duval











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Hi nChrist

I regret your attitude is that you have wasted your time.  Seems you were looking for an "out" and convientliy found it- - - the same "out" all have used when unable to answer the issue in point. 

God bless, and I wish you well,
duval

My, My Dan!

I did have better hope for you.  I did say if you read bro. Peter's sermon you would find answers.  Do you recall how in Acts 2 Peter said "this is that which was apoken of by Joel----"  Did you not read the quotes from David?  So I did give you verses didn't I Dan?

Hi Mr. Rogers

Two things about I Cor.12:13 without advancing further on it.  1.  In the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Jesus IS the one doing the baptizing.  Here the Spirit is said to "by" although some translations use the word "in".  Whichever word used ( by or in ) Jesus is the dministrator of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Second, the text says "all" received it.  Would it be safe to assume such?

I see there is a renewed interest in the baptism of the Holy Spirit, so, perhaps the stage is set again to ask 2 questions asked before but recieving no answers.

l.  Is the baptism of the Spirit a command or a promise?

2. Is water baptism a command or promise

As always, I wish you all well---duval

Hello Dan

Sooooooooo why have this thread on gentiles in the millennium if you can't answer a question or two about the millinnium??

Hi nChrist: 

About Tit.3:5 and the "washing of regenerattion", as with the "rrenewing of the Holy Spirit" nothing is said about the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" in the verse.  What was said about the "renewing" is  also true of the "washing", and nothing said about the baptism of the Holy Spirit there.  In fact the "washing" and the "renewing" are two different things as evidenced by the word "and" which joines them together.  Try again.

nChrist

Thanks for that scripture and I believe every word of it.  Note please it reads "and renewing of the Holy Spirit--"  NOT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!  Some think each time they see the word "Spirit" it means Holy Spirit, but there are different"gifts" of the Spirit.

Thus I still ask, and rightly so, where is the passage stating sins are cleansed in the Holy Spirit, or described as Jerry said "salvation",

God bless you as you search, and always remember, God is love.
duval

Yes Dan, Acts chapter 2, and I didn't even have to search.  Now, if you will study and search Peter's lesson that day you will find the answer to your 2nd question.

Good hunting indeed!

Hello Jerry:

Will you please tell us where Holy Spirit baptism is "described as cleansing of sins, or salvation"? 

Respectfully, duval