I may have wrote this quote in another thread, if so, I apologize. It is however, worth repeating!

"The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense."  Karl Marx 1848

It all boils down to who will raise your child? The atheist marxist public schools? Christian Schools? or the parent? Do you want a walking talking robot that has been reared in the public reeducation camps? Or a child who can think critically and biblically?

Symphony and Sincereheart you both have made some excellent points.

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Broken,

Evidently you are not reading my posts very clearly either.

In the matter of judgement....if one proclaims God's Word, he is not judging.

"He who says "I know Him", and does not keep His commandments (Thou shalt not murder) is a liar, and the truth is not in him." I John 2:4

The Word of God judges you. You say it's ok to kill little boys and girls before they are born. God says its murder.

The Bible has a lot to say about shedding innocent blood. What is more innocent than an unborn child?

Broken, I have spoken to many a girl heading into an abortion clinic. And I don't know if you are being totally honest. But God does know the truth. I would just say this.....if you have had an abortion, or been a party to one, you must repent.

I must also tell you that there is no such thing as a pro-choice Christian.Just like there is no such thing as a "gay" Christian". I can say that with complete authority from the word of God. If you were a follower of Jesus Christ, you would love the unborn. You would defend them, and not justify their deaths.

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Cris,

Thanks!  I guess I have a martyr's complex. Actually, I have read many martyr books such as Foxes Book of Martyrs,  and have a deep concern for my brothers and sisters who are being persecuted and martyred in this present age. Everyday hundreds, if not thousands, of Christians are dying for their faith. In countries like Sudan, there have been over 2 million deaths in the last decade or so.China is another hotbed of persecution, as well as most Muslim nations.

Maybe one day here in America we will share in the same sufferings? The question, "are we prepared?"

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Ollie,

Ditto! Thank you for posting the definition of gnosticism.

Tibby, if you would carefully take the time to look at the link above, you will notice that this is the Home School Legal Defense Association. This is a group of lawyers who compiled this information. Would a group of Christian attorney's whose whole purpose is to defend the right's of home schooler's be so ignorant to post false data? What would be the purpose?

Tibby, has your darwinistic/marxist education left you that small minded?

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To Ebia, Tibby and other home school detractor's,

There is a vast array of differences between home school children and public, but I will list just a few.

1) The materials used in home schooling are far superior than public. Many home educator's include Bible classes along with a curriculum that incorporates Biblical principles.Most families I know that home educate include a phonics, instead of the miserable sight reading approach.

2) Many home schoolers teach the basics, such as the three R's, Instead of learning how to put on a condom, spend countless hours studying the Amazon Rain Forrest, or save the planet, etc.

3) Home school families actually spend more time going on field trips, and exploring their world, than their public school counterparts.

4) Most home school families have vision. Vision to raise up godly children, who will make a difference.

Of course there is always a family who will not discharge their duties properly. There is always the exception to the general rule.

But the proof is in the pudding. The stats don't lie!

Please take the time to read over this information.

http://www.hslda.org/research/faq.asp

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Tibby,

Once again you have spouted off about something you know absolutely nothing about.

Did you know there were nearly two million "unsocialized" children in America. You really need to go to this link and get the facts. Under socialization and achievement score is really interesting. In fact ,on standardized tests, these kids are scoring way above children in public school ( up to 37 points higher)

Many of these kids are the same "social misfits" that are remaining virgins, courting, marrying, and having godly families. These are the leaders of the future.

Young man, you really need to get your facts straight before you insult 2 million kids.

http://www.hslda.org/research/faq.asp

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Dear Cris,

This is an excellent topic!

"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church"

From the first Christian martyr Jesus, to the 11 of the 12 disciples, martyrdom serves to grow and strengthen the faith.

Take China for instance, the church there was weak in the faith until the Communist takeover in 1949. When the persecution began, and the sheep and the goats were separated, the church has flourished. There is now close to 100 million believers in China now.

The Voice of the Martyrs www.persecution.com is an excellent resource on keeping up to date with our persecuted brothers and sisters in Christ. We are to share in their sufferings. We should also be prepared to suffer and die for the cause of Christ.

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Here is a good verse for those who would justify killing a disabled baby.

"So the Lord said to him (Moses), "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the Lord?"  Exodus 4:11

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Tibby,

The concept of courtship is being put to practice especially within homeschool families. It is attainable! And there are young men and women who are courting, marrying, and raising families.

The world and the church has been so ingrained to the practice of dating, maybe that's why the church members don't fare much better than the world when it comes to marriage, divorce, and remarriage.

Courtship is not a new practice, but rather an old one that is proven to be tried and true.

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Dovewings,

What a wonderful testimony of God's providence in your life.

I know the rape question comes up with people for an excuse to take a child's life. My question to them is this,"should a child die for the sins of the father?"

Also an abortion does not "unrape" the mother. If she has an abortion she is actually being raped a second time.

Dovewings, giving birth to your child was the right thing to do!

Blessings,
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Willowbirch,

It would be a great disservice to not tell Broken the truth.It is the TRUTH that sets someone free. It is when someone confessess AND forsakes their sins that true deliverance takes place.

God's Word is what judges a man. When the Word says...."thou shalt not do so and so" and another Christian repeats what God says, that is not judging. Friend, that is trying to save someone from the fires of hell.

Option #1 Let's all be nice to Broken, and let her continue to believe a lie that's it's ok to kill babies. We don't want to offend her, after all what's 45 million dead babies anyway?( that's how many have died in America since 1973)

Option #2 Tell Broken the truth that abortion is murder, and urge her to repent of her sins, and follow Jesus Christ.

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Broken,

Any person who believes it's ok to murder little boys and girls in the womb are not born again. For anyone who would kill/ or even suggest/ that it's ok to do so, does not know the Author of Life.

I take it that you are from England or Austrailia? Allow me to give you a run down on how things work here in America.

1) Abortion is legal in our country until the moment of birth. A woman can actually be in labor, and have her baby aborted. As long as it's body does not pop out totally, it can have it's brains sucked out,  body parts harvested, and body discarded to a dumpster or a lab. In Wichita Kansas, there is a clinic who has an incinerator, that cremates the baby. I have personally seen the smoke stack ( reminds one of Nazi Germany)

2) Women in our country are sold abortions, like one would buy cosmetics. It's a high pressure business operation. Their business is not to offer a women a "choice", but an abortion. Abortions range from several hundered dollars to thousands. Our family housed a woman in 1990 who was going to have an abortion at 7 months. When she got to the clinic they told her the abortion would be $2400.00. Although, the clinic accepted cash or credit cards, they would not accept her mother's Discover Card (praise the Lord!). To make a long story short, this precious young women who came to know the Lord, now has a 13 year old son, who has been the joy of her life. If she had gone through with the abortion, her life would have taken another turn. She would be living with the guilt of murdering her child.

3) Many abortionists in our country have serious psychiatric disorders(demons), and/or criminal behaviors. Recently in Arizona, there was an abortionist who was convicted and sentenced to 30+ years for molesting his patients. Some are child molestors, others are addicted to pornography and drugs. One should not be suprized, that making a living by killing ,would make one go mad. (Is this the type of "Dr" you would want to go visit?)

4) Abortion clinics are the largest unregulated business in America. A veternarian clinic has more restrictions.

Broken,

Has the word "abstinance" ever come to mind? It's 100% effective against pregnancy and STD's.Sex outside of the marriage covenant is prohibited by God, and it's for our own good. Millions of babies would be saved yearly, if this "non government program" was implemented.

Broken,

If you have bought the lie and had an abortion, there is hope and forgiveness in Jesus Christ. But you must go to Him and ask for forgiveness and healing. Be honest before the Lord God, and call abortion what He calls it; murder.If you do that, He will cast your sins into the sea, and you will be given a clean slate. Your name will be written down in the Lambs Book of Life.

"Have mercy upon me, O God, according to Your loving kindness; according to the multitude of Your tender mercies. Blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions, and my sin is always before me. Against You , You only have I sinned, and done this evil in Your sight.....

Psalm 51:1-4 (please read remainder of chapter)

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Make no mistake about it.....this is all about the public acknowledgment of God. The "Ten Commandments" was just the catalyst that has exposed the evil thoughts of man.

For further proof please read this article. It's becoming more crystal clear everyday.

http://covenantnews.com/baldwin031115.htm

Knox,

Would you rather align yourselves with atheists, or with men of God?

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Broken,

If you belonged to Jesus, you would obey His Word, and believe every word that is written in it.

You need to repent of all the sins you have committed against Him. You need to repent for not believing that God alone is the author of life. He states in Psalms 139 that we are fearfully and wonderfully made. It is He who fashions us in our mothers womb. In Jeremiah 1:4-6, the Word states that He knew Jeremiah before He ever formed him in his mother's womb. God knows all of us before He ever forms us.

God's Word is also very clear that murderer's have no inheritance in the kingdom of God. That includes anyone who has taken an innocent life.

Broken, you have made yourself "wiser than God". Your mindset has been formed by the world, not the Word.

Seek the Lord!

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Broken,

You need fixed! And only Jesus can do that.

Please go back to the link on page 1, and look at the pictures of the aborted babies. IF you really believe it's ok to dismember little boys and girls, than your heart is cold as ice.

Remember we were all just fetuses at one point in our lives. And it's wrong to murder an innocent child no matter what stage of development that may be at. As a society if we continue to kill the innocent, weak, and infirmed, one day we will see Nazism revisted in this country. ( Nazi type death camps are now is North Korea....the victims? many Christians and their children)

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

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