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16  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: NYT: A War We Just Might Win on: August 07, 2007, 08:01:03 AM
i am like everyone here in the sence that i ahve my own opinions so these are my opinions to some of your quetions.  i am sure some will disagree with them.

1 - Can we afford to lose this war?

 no in many ways.  we went in to give the irag people a better life but to do that we have to eliminate all traces of the old regime

2 - What happens if we lose this war?

 all those that died fighting will have died in vain/ie for nothing

3 - Will the war stop if we simply leave Iraq, or will the location of the war change to a less favorable location like our own soil?

 no the war will not stop.  it will turn into a civil war and in many ways it will probably be wore for the people there

4 - How many people have we given our word to, and how many innocents will die if we break our word?

we have given our word to iraq that we will help thm rebuild and so if we break our word thousands will suffer as a result of our breaking our promises.  we agred to rebuild and help provide things like electricity and water, all the things we take for granted

5 - Are we gullible enough to believe that stopping this war will result in anything positive? OR, will stopping this war result in unbelievable chaos and powder kegs going off throughout the region?

 yes we are gulllable enough to think that.  but it is human nature that we want our loved ones with us safe and in one piece.  even if we stop fighting there will always be some fighting there this i am sure of but i think it wil be far worse if we just pull out our troops and leave them to get on with it

6 - We must win this war or the consequences will be more than the world can bare. We can't escape this war, and it will be fought, regardless of what we want or don't want. The enemy has declared war on us over and over again, and the war will only stop when the enemy has been beaten or decides to quit. Like it or not, the war will be all over the world, or it will be in the Northern Hemisphere on our own soil. We do have some choices about the location of the main battles, and it would be really stupid to give up this choice. 
what do we gain personally if we win this war?

 america gets control of the oil fields and thus gets more power and control, so is this a war regarding power or human rights?

7 - Aren't we smart enough to figure out what's at stake yet. Terrorists have been declaring war on us for decades, and they were completely serious. They have attacked us all over the world and they really want BADLY to attack us on our own soil. Can we look in the dictionary for "CALIPHATE" and figure out what radical Islam really wants? Why do they warn us before major attacks? It's to give us one last warning and an opportunity to convert to Islam and surrender. We will either do that or be wiped from the face of the earth. Aren't we smart enough to figure this out? 

you blame islams for this terrorist attacks but by doing that you unwittingly imply that this is what their religion is all about. i have some muslims and other groups living oposite my home and they all  say these terror attacks should not happen as it is wrong to kill. i personally think the warnings are a power thing, they get a buzz from the fact that they warn us and we then go runing around trying to find  the bombs only to find they are not in the places they say at all


8 - Regardless of what we do, will this war ever end? PROBABLY NOT! BUT, we do have options to fight most of the battles on foreign soil and save many innocent lives. Has Israel learned anything about fighting terrorists? OBVIOUSLY NOT! Israel submitted to the demands that were for peace many times, and they didn't get any peace - just more war, and nearly all of the victims were innocents. Israel is doing the same thing now, and nothing has changed. Making agreements with terrorists is a sign of weakness and a signal for another attack.


if making agreements with terrorists is a sign of weekness and a signal for another attack please explain why ireland is a much calmer place?  me i personally think that it is a better place now.  while we have diffrent religions with different ideas there ill always be wars, it is a sad fact that more wars are fought  over/or as a result or religion than any other reason.  yes many victims are innocents but they are with the lord at the end and free of suffering and in a far far better place


9 - What do the terrorists really want and how can they be appeased? SIMPLE - total submission and conversion to Islam. Anything short of this MUST mean total destruction and elimination by any means necessary.

terrorists want power and control. i dont think it is about converting to islam as i have talked to people here and they are horrified about what is happening and how they are basically looked at suspiciously because of some that have done terrible things.  when it is said that a child has been killed most here cry, most are parents themselves and the grief is amazing and genuine as well

 
Don't we get it? What will it take for us to understand this? WINNING IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE ANSWER FOR PEACE! AND, the win must be overwhelming with a clear understanding that we are willing and able to do the same thing again and again and again. Overwhelming strength and force is the only thing that radical Islam understands - plain and simple - end of story. Radical Islam believes that diplomacy and agreements is for sissies - a sign of weakness - and a signal to attack. There is no honor or need for radical Islam to keep their word because there is no requirement for radical Islam to keep their word with INFIDELS!

If you're wondering, Christians and Jews are INFIDELS. There are ONLY two possible courses of action for us:   1)  total submission and conversion to Islam,   2) total destruction and elimination.  Number one is only an option if it's convenient at the time. Otherwise, number two is the preferred course of action.

In conclusion, there will be war whether we want it or not! We might have some options about the location and methods, but there will be war - plain and simple! Reminder - look up the word "CALIPHATE".

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well i have inserted my opinions and i know that some will disagree with them.  i lost someone very dear to me at the very start of the latest gulf war in a helicoter crash but i hope my opinions show that while i dont agree with this war at all starting i do understand the reasons he went to war and i thanks god that even tho we lost him suddenly he is with our lord in a place with no suffering and  no war, only love.  i thank god that even tho we lost him it was at the start so we dont have the fears every day of whether he will be hurt or not.   i just pray that not many more familes will have to suffer the anguish of not knowing.
17  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Abortion #1 killer of blacks, says Tennessee pastor on: August 07, 2007, 07:26:25 AM
guys as a woman i am trying to understand what it is you actually dont like?

is it the fact that you dont agree with abortion in general or that due to carelessness so many lives are lost.  by carelessne i mean unsteraliseed tables and equipment etc?

sorry if i sound a bit thick!
18  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: 'Plot Would Have Killed Thousands' on: August 07, 2007, 07:21:22 AM
when i read of things like this it saddens me that humans are prepared to kill so many innocent people in this way.  it also concerns me that i may be on one of those flight to carolina when it happend on route to visit my brother Reverend William Ford. 

life is so precious
19  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: What's your favorite animal? on: August 06, 2007, 09:30:44 PM
Grin

Angel, that was a little joke about house-training a horse. BUT, I am completely house-trained and only have an accident rarely.   Grin

i know but i couldnt resist the sarcasm back

sorry guys if i offended anyone
20  Theology / Debate / Re: Where Have All The Children Gone? on: August 06, 2007, 09:10:19 PM
i uesd to be in the girld brigade as a child and then as a adult i went back as a helper.  i saw many children that didnt go to church as it was not "suitable" for them. many talked to the adults and the children just didnt understand what the minister was talking about. even family services ere not always tailored to suit the childrens understanding.

i am a young person and i respect the church but if we are going to bring in the young then we have to cater to their needs as well as the older generations/members.

going back some years history makes the church to be the centre of the villge, it was a place to meet friends and be happy, now in many cases it is a place to go on a sunday and once there many sit and be quiet until it is time to sing or prey, instead we should be praising the lord, celebrating his love and lifting up our hearts with gladness in song.  if we want to sit and shout hallujah and god praises  we should be alowed to, if we want to dance then we shouldnt be stopped because it is what our happiness and love  for the lord does to us.  many young feel judged by the older members of churches  and i find that sad.  i know a baptist minister in the states who has the attitude that he would rather have people shouting out praises during his sermons and dancing to the singing  than siting in chairs silent as that way he knows they truely have the lord in their hearts.
21  Welcome / About You! / Re: hi newbie here on: August 06, 2007, 08:53:25 PM
thankyou  ibtina

i appreciate it
22  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: What's your favorite animal? on: August 04, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
to house train?

well i'd say it was easier than keeping men under control

no offence meant to anyone
23  Theology / General Theology / Re: Judge Not on: August 04, 2007, 09:38:59 AM
i live with a minister and his family and while i can sit with him and we do talk about scriptures , god etc not once does he ever push church etc onto me.

he has the attitude that while i have my faith strong as it is, and i am one with god then he is happy and will support me in any way i need it.

i was told  by my grandmother years ago that it is not about what church i attend but rather what is inside my heart and the only ones who know that is myself and god, and if i have god in my heart then that is my church.
24  Entertainment / Music / jairus daughter on: August 04, 2007, 09:05:10 AM
a few years ago i have the good fortune to take part in the musical jairus daughter which was written to celebrate the girls brigade centenary.

i have been trying to locate a cd of the music but so far i am having no look.  can anyone suggest where i could look in the uk for it?

i loved the music which was moving and the whole performance was one that i wont ever forget..  i dont expect to ever find a video but i would like to find the cd of the music so any suggestions are appreciated

thankyou in advance
25  Theology / Bible Study / Re: can someone please help me? on: August 04, 2007, 08:56:31 AM
thankyou pastor roger.  i didnt know about the study assist.

to be honest i would normally turn to my very dear friend who is a minister and who i live with but him and his family are on holiday visiting other family members

thankyou for the guidance
26  Welcome / About You! / Re: hi newbie here on: August 04, 2007, 08:38:27 AM
Welcome to the forums, Angel, or is that Angle since you spelled it both ways. I just love typos! Grin

hey i didnt notice i had done it,  its angel.

thanks guys for the warm welcome, i appreciate it
27  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: I need you guys' opinion please. on: August 03, 2007, 04:59:36 PM
this sounds like a  situation i was in a while ago.


i gave the cat the choice to either go out or stay with me, he chose to stay so i felt less guilty as it was the cats choice and not mine in the end.  all i did was show it kindness and provide it with food and a warm and safe place to go to.
28  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: Owners May Pass Superbugs to Their Pets on: August 03, 2007, 04:55:34 PM
i think that the biggest problem with viruses is the fact that we have been brough up in a time where we are supposed to go get vaccinated for every virus possible, but what about when there was no vaccinations?

i had none and i was always outside with the animals on the farms and getting dirty.  my nan always used to say " you will eat a tun o dirt before you die" and when i think back i think she is right.  like me she had no vaccinations etc and both of are healthy people.  i dont get colds and most viruses i can repel but my boys had the vaccinations and they are so very different to me. 

these viruses mutate over the years to become imune to the vaccinations that we have and the treatments that we have making them far worse that they was originally.

we have always been able to get ring worm from livestock but it is easily treated.  as for the bird flue, well i am no expert but from what i read of the defra reports the people that was affected was working very closely with poultry and they lived with them as well so they was breathing in the spores and dust from the birds which would probably make them ill anyway regardless whether it was bird flue or not
29  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: Horses on: August 03, 2007, 04:45:53 PM
i ride horses and i own some as well.

i have to admit that most of mine came to me as rescue cases and it was a challenge at times.

mine are welsh ponies sections A B and C and very loveable now.  i also have a thoroughbred and untill last harvest i had a highland pony that had to be destroyed due to a riding accident
30  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re: Aquariums on: August 03, 2007, 04:42:34 PM
i love fish.  i gave my tank away when i moved but i am thinking of getting another one.

i used to lie in bed and watch them swimming and then fall asleep feeling very calm and relaxed
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