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4186  Theology / Debate / Re: Once Saved Always Saved??? on: February 17, 2007, 12:49:13 AM
Worthy indeed is the Lamb "that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing"  (Rev 5:12). And in the light of "so great salvation" i certainly am guilty of not redering unto the Lord according to the beneft thereof" (2Chr. 32:25), and i must be more dilligent  in surrender to Him. . Hezekaih got 15 more years added to his earthly life, but which did not turn out to be blessing, as his heart was lifted up, and he basically cast his (or God's) "pearls before swine," showing the princes of Babylon "his precious things, the silver, and the gold, and the spices, and the precious ointment, and all the house of his armour, and all that was found in his treasures" (is. 39), which would later be carried to Babylon.

Though this debate concerns losing salvation, the above verse does not directly spreak to that, but that we have far more grace given us and are thus far more motivation -a nd acountablity- to serve "the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things" (Deu 28:47; the opposite of which is why they suffered such terible chastisment).

As for the actual OSAS subject, i think Gal. 5:1-4 is the strongest verse for the probationist postion (mine?), while Jn. 18:9 is one of the best forthe prevervationist view. And what is clearer, is that that whjile we are saved by grace thru faith, not on any merit of own, a faith that does not overall  follow Christ (Jn. 10:27-29) is not Biblical saving faith. If we rest in Jesus as Savior, then we will follow Him as Lord, as that is who and what our object of faith is (Rm. 10:9). It is such "things that accompany salvation" (Heb. 6:9) that the great assurance verse of 1Jn. 5:13 refers to as "these things."

Praise ye the Lord.




4187  Theology / Bible Study / Re: Read-Post Through the Bible on: February 15, 2007, 10:42:57 PM

Yes, i could title it Verse from the OT, but i would like to do a chapter a day, and see how it goes. I think i will start next Monday. i thought maybe Monday thru Friday  would be better, in case some only access their PC's at work, or are too busy on the weekends.  But there is not sign up. Just shout ti from the roof tops.

To God be the glory.
4188  Theology / Bible Study / Re: Read-Post Through the Bible on: February 14, 2007, 09:14:37 PM
Thanks for the encouragement. I think it would be a good way to read thru the Bible sequencially. I will just start it myself in a couple days even if no no one "signs up," and after others can join in as we go along. Though when we are done i do not think we will compete with Matthew Henry (or Clarke, Gill, JFB, K+D, Poole, tc.)!

4189  Theology / Bible Study / Read-Post Through the Bible on: February 13, 2007, 10:33:49 AM

 Hi, i am rather new here, and am an evangelical Christian whose ability to concentrate  on reading anything has been reduced the last few years, but who finds i get much out of Scripture when studying and discussing it with others.

Therefore, for my own edification and that of others  I would like to start a thread in which some brethren would read a chapter a day, beginning in Genesis, and add a few  comments, and go thru the entire Bible in order day by day. This would not be a place for extended debate, as one rule i would want to stick to is that we keep to reading a chapter a day. I am not sure exactly how to do this, whether the entire chapter should be posted each day (most likely) or a link to an online Bible. I stick to the King James version, and i have my good reasons, but i am not forcing others to do the same, nor is the purpose of this thread to force one point of view, though brief comments regarding why one interprets something one way may be concisely included. 

If anyone is interested out there, and or has any suggestions, please repond. And may all be done to the glory of God (1Cor. 10:31).

PS, if anyone is unsure whether i am an evangelical believer (who falls short), you can see my web site at www.peacebyjesus.net
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