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1  Theology / Debate / Re: Put Wine back on the Lord's Table? on: January 01, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
It's always good to read the context of scripture.  In this case, context falls smack dab right in the middle of the scripture being quoted....and it says, "when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation".  Again, this is not a total prohibition. It's when you go to the tabernacle.

When we build doctrine, it's very important to read all of scripture, in its context.  I could give plenty of examples of plucking scripture out of context to come up with doctrine that is not sound. For example, 1Cor 15:29 would seem to suggest that Baptizing for the dead is something we should do.  Only the Mormans believe that, and they use this scripture as support.   Of course this is not what the Bible teaches, when you read the WHOLE of scripture.

When advise goes beyond what the Bible says, it turns into legalism.
2  Theology / Debate / Tithing - Top 10 reasons I don't on: December 31, 2006, 07:56:30 PM
Top Ten Reasons I Don’t Tithe

1.The law of tithing has been cancelled (Heb 7:5,12,18) and no one has a right to re-establish a law Christ died to abolish.
2.I don’t have any food from the Promised Land to tithe (Lev 27).
3.I can’t find a Levite (Num 18:20).
4.I’m a priest (1Pe 2:9, Rev 1:6).  Priests were tithe receivers, not givers.
5.I’m a Gentile.  By law, only Jews can tithe.
6.The Bible teaches three different tithes (Num 18:20, Lev 27:30, Deut 12:1-19, Deut 14:22-26, Deut 14:28,29 and    26:12-13). How can I just pick one?
7.The New Covenant began when Christ proclaimed, “It is finished”. I can’t add anything to that.
8.I can’t find an example in the Bible of a worker tithing money off their wages and earnings.
9.I can’t find that it’s a requirement for church leadership in the New Testament.
10.The New Testament talks plenty about giving, but never mandates the law the tithing.(Remember, the NT began at the cross, not Matt 1:1).
3  Theology / Debate / Re: Moral Responsibilities of Extraterrestrials? on: December 31, 2006, 07:46:58 PM
Well, actually, there is intelligent life beyond our own universe.  The Bible calls these aliens, "angels".  In that context, I think most (if not all) of your questions are answered.  Satan is a fallen angel.  Hope that jump-starts your thoughts.

I don't think there is life on other planets.  The conditions needed for life are too numerous. It's a miracle we have life here on earth.  If aliens land on earth, I just hope they taste as good as our other earth animals. 
4  Theology / Debate / Re: Put Wine back on the Lord's Table? on: December 31, 2006, 07:17:47 PM
Thanks Tom, so far I'm enjoying the site. You're right, alcohol has done a lot of damage.  So have guns, but I own a few.

The Bible is full of both negative and positive statements about wine and strong drink.
The festival tithe of Deut 14:26 can actually be used to buy strong drink.
Jesus created about 120 - 180 gallons of wine.
Timothy was encouraged to have a glass.
The fact that wine skins would burst is proof of fermentation.

Catholics would disagree that its a bad witness and so would millions of other Christians living outside the USA. In other countries, Christians drink wine and beer and no brother is ever offended.

Here are few more positive scriptures:
Psa 4:7
Psa 104:14-15
Prov 3:10
1Tim 5:23


A couple of parting comments here:
I don't advocate drinking and certainly not drunkenness.  I'm simply pointing out that the Bible doesn't totally prohibit having a drink.

Okay...now I'm going to look for some other topic to post.  Enjoyed the feedback everyone gave!

5  Theology / Debate / Re: Put Wine back on the Lord's Table? on: December 31, 2006, 05:12:31 PM
Thanks for the welcome!

A few points -
1) Smoking is not listed as a sin.  Jesus said it's not what enters our mouth that defiles, but what comes out.
2) I've witnessed that Legalism and adding prohibitions that don't actually exist, hurts our Christian witness.
3) I agree that booz'n it in front of an alcholholic is just plain wrong.
4) Murder is a sin, both OT and new.  Therefore, smoking a cigarette is not like murder. 
5) Smoking, sitting in front of a TV too much, eating too much fat, and not getting enough exercise all qualify not taking care of our bodies.
6) Everything that is not of faith is sin.  So, just about anything and everything can be made sin. But that doesn't mean we should make anything and everything a sin. I don't think it's fruitful, necessary, or good strategy to do that.  I'm going to focus on the camels and not the splinters. Given a choice, I'll confront someone about their gossip before I'll confront them about a cigarette.

Regarding weaker brothers, I say .... get off the milk and mature in Christ.  Smiley   Wounding someone's conscience is certainly a bad thing (sin).  So, educate them so they are not wounded.  Saying things are sin, when they are not, makes their conscience weak and keeps them as Christian babes. 
6  Theology / Debate / Re: Put Wine back on the Lord's Table? on: December 31, 2006, 03:01:27 PM
Jerry stated, "we should not partake of things that do make us weak or stumble. "  However, scripture is clear on this, it is the offended person that is weak.  When they see someone else excercising the liberty of having a drink, they, being weak, are offended. The weak person is not the one doing the drinking. 

The Bible speaks against becoming drunk, but not against having a drink.  I'm always puzzled why smoking, drinking, and buying a loto ticket get placed at the top of the sin list.  Shouldn't lyng, stealing, murder and adultery be at the top? 

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