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Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ?
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on: October 29, 2004, 04:48:03 PM
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Jemidon2004, AMEN!!! to the entire post. I hope this is making sense...if it ain't...let me know. Yes i used the word ain't cause i'm a southern boy...lol. Ya'll be blessed and behave.
Preach IT! Southern Brother! I love to hear the Gospel of the Grace of God, plain and simple. It really hurts me to know there are many Christian Brothers and Sisters who have no assurance of Salvation. I can only imagine how depressing it would be to think that your next sin would result in losing your Salvation. That's why the the plain and simple GOOD NEWS of Jesus, Him dying on the Cross for us, and arising from the dead to be our LIVING Lord and Saviour is the most precious event in the history of mankind. HIS sacrifice was perfect, HE loves us, and HE wants to forgive our sins. Nothing but the Blood of Jesus will forgive us, cleanse us, redeem us, and make us fit to become His children. It would make me very happy if all of our Brothers and Sisters in Christ knew just how simple it is to have joy in Jesus. Christians won't be perfected or given glorified bodies in this short life on earth. However, HIS promises will be fulfilled at His appointed time. For the here and now, our faith in the righteousness and perfection of JESUS brings great joy and 100% assurance of Salvation. Our faith in JESUS sets us free from the curse of sin and death. Love In Christ, Tom
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56703
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:National Geographic slams Christians!
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on: October 29, 2004, 03:19:52 AM
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Evangelist, I thought he was confused, so I tried to explain things in a very simple way, just for him. I think that he told us it was not appropriate for Christians to think. OR, was he telling Christians what to think? Well, I've decided to send him a message by carrier pigeon if I ever need help thinking. He shouldn't hold his breath since I don't have any carrier pigeons. Love In Christ, Tom
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56704
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Theology / General Theology / Re:Losing salvation?
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on: October 29, 2004, 03:01:45 AM
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Freefromsin, I'm using the same post to answer you in two different places: _______________________________ Is this the purpose of 1 John? (1 John 1:3) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. (1 John 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. __________ You might think this is a contradiction to the verses you quoted, but it isn't. (1 John 1: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1 John 1:9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. __________ UM??? - This is the same book and chapter you quoted from. I wonder if you know what the verses you quoted mean? (1 John 2:1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (1 John 2:2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. ______________________________ You can see the other post for the rest of it. I'll simply say that what you quoted does not come close to meaning what you think it does. Love In Christ, Tom
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56705
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Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ?
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on: October 29, 2004, 02:49:48 AM
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1 John 2:3,4 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We don't obtain salvation keeping the commandments of the bible. For by grace are ye saved though faith, not of works. But when we are truely converted we will by the power of God keep his commandments. If some one says they know him and don't keep his commandments the bible says they are a liar and the truth is not in him.
Freefromsin, There are no men who are free from sin. 1 John is quoted many times, but isolated Scriptures are usually chosen and taken out of context to make a point that is false. See if the below helps you some: ____________________________________ Is this the purpose of 1 John? (1 John 1:3) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. (1 John 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. __________ You might think this is a contradiction to the verses you quoted, but it isn't. (1 John 1: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1 John 1:9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. __________ UM??? - This is the same book and chapter you quoted from. I wonder if you know what the verses you quoted mean? (1 John 2:1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (1 John 2:2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. _________________________________ Just a few scriptures before the ones you quoted are instructions for what to do when a Christian sins. You will also see in Chapter 1 of 1 John the purpose for the book. The book is written to Christians for the purpose that their joy might be more full. There are no men without sin, certainly including Christians. The portion of Scripture you quoted obviously does not mean what you think it does. Love In Christ, Tom
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56706
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:National Geographic slams Christians!
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on: October 28, 2004, 05:51:24 PM
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Right, the appropriate way to voice your displeasure is to stop reading one of the nations most globaly informative magazines. I have no problem with you being upset at this particular article, but in the end, thats what free-speech is all about. I think it would be a real tradgedy if you were to stop reading National Geographic because of this incident.
Thomas2004, It's shocking that even Christians have the right to decide how they will spend their money and whose products they will support by buying that product. They certainly do have free speech, and we have the freedom not to buy it. What little money most of us have is usually spent for necessities and things that honor God. We have the same rights as non-Christians, so we can pick and choose what we buy and what we support. Did someone tell you these rights were removed from Christians? OR, are you scolding us for exercising our rights? It's a moot point since we will continue to exercise our rights and buy or not buy whatever we wish. It's all pretty simple - folks can publish just about anything they want, but we don't have to buy it. By the way, Christians also have free speech the last time I checked. Regardless, you are on a Christian Family Forum. Tom
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56707
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Left-wing Bigotry
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on: October 28, 2004, 05:13:32 PM
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To suggest that I think 7 year olds should be getting sex-ed in schools is a gross misrepresentation. I thought my point was quite clear, but I will try again to make it so. There are things in this world that you and I both see as wrong for various reasons. While you insist on calling them evil and simply leaving it at that, I am trying to find perhaps some more rational and approchable lines of argumentation. I'm sure you will agree that your community's schools would be better off if the Planned Parenting group were not permitted to discuss certain issues. Therefore, while you may feel justified in saying "abomination, end of story", you're not going to accomplish anything by doing so. (ie you're not going to convince anyone that you're right) While you seem to have some strong beleifs, and I aplaud your zeal, you don't seem to be very result oriented. In fact, at times many people here remind me of children with their eyes closed and their fingers stuffed into their ears. Its safe, its comfortable, and best of all, you don't have to listen to anybody. But as long as you're keeping satan at bay by doing so, I guess you'll be okay.
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56709
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Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:The Unfriendliest Club in Town?
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on: October 28, 2004, 04:37:29 PM
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Shylynne,
Sister, thank you sincerely for sharing this with us. I copied it for additional study. The spiritual battle for hearts and minds is a difficult task in this increasingly evil world. I think there is a lot of good information here that we should all study and pray about. I just wanted to thank you for giving me much to pray about.
Love In Christ, Tom
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56710
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Left-wing Bigotry
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on: October 28, 2004, 04:17:32 PM
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Thomas2004,
Christians who stand up for good and against evil could care less about worldly approval. It's really just as simple as that. If you think that 3rd graders should be taught that garbage by Planned Parenthood, most Christians will oppose you, including me.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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56711
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Fellowship / Parenting / Re:Childrening??
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on: October 28, 2004, 04:03:36 PM
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Shylynne,
Sister, your pictures are the sad truth for many children, especially the one indicating neglect and a don't bother me attitude of some parents. Some of the reasons are frightening. For some parents, their dope and alcohol rules the house, and children are a nuisance.
The authority problem when they get older is simple and common sense. Many of the troubled teens never had a mother or father they could respect. You will find that reality for many of these children is a nightmare. Some of them are thinking about suicide at age 5 and 6. Some of them were born with addictions to street drugs. And worse, many of them will suffer all kinds of physical and emotional disorders for what their parents did before they were born. For many, the torture continues after they are born.
For some of these children, they start committing crimes at 8 to 10. Some of them have killed before they are 12. We really shouldn't wonder why they don't appear to have a conscience or any sense of morals. They are victims, but they become very dangerous victims in many cases. In short, many of them were programmed since before birth to be sociopaths and sometimes even psychopaths.
I give thanks for all of the big-hearted people who volunteer for youth work. There will never be enough volunteers. Some of the hardest volunteer work is ministry at juvenile detention centers and Christian counseling. Some of the children do accept help, and some of them can be saved, both their hearts and their minds.
Love In Christ, Tom
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Theology / Completed and Favorite Threads / Re:Am I Going to Heaven ?
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on: October 28, 2004, 03:15:08 PM
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Brother Love Said:
"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:1).
AMEN BROTHER!! to the entire post. The world has nothing to offer of the peace that ONLY Jesus can give. Many people fill empty because they are empty. Jesus can and will fill this emptiness. Love In Christ, Tom
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56714
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:Left-wing Bigotry
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on: October 28, 2004, 02:47:30 AM
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People who claim that others, such as family planning advocates are somehow the spawn of satan do the rest of the christian community such a grave diservice. I don't mean to suggest that we have to become politicaly correct, but we do have to seriously discourage those on the frightening extreme-right fringe. We have serious moral questions to ask, and they need serious answers. Blaming satan for the woes of the world (If we are now calling rational and planned parenthood for today's youth a woe) is simply ludicrous and infantile. It takes very little intellectual prowess to hide behind the dogma of our past, and as a result, that sort of problem solving tactic isn't going to solve much. Its high time we put this troubling sort of hateful rehtoric behind us, and start to think about ways we as christians can continue to do god's work in todays new global reality.
Thomas2004, Maybe you're not informed about what Planned Parenthood is doing in our schools with our children. If you are informed, we can agree to disagree. Planned Parenthood has successfully fought to get the dirty details of alternative lifestyles into the 3rd grade curriculum of many school systems. My children are raised, but that won't be done in the school system of my city without a fight. Call it what you will, but I call it evil and most Christians agree. That has no place in public schools at all. I'm not at all concerned with those who disagree. Further, I would strongly question whether that person was a Christian or not. Tom
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56715
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Trick or Treat
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on: October 27, 2004, 06:25:14 PM
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Brother Love, AMEN BROTHER!! I accepted God's GIFT over 50 years ago. His GIFT has given me greater and greater joy over the years. In fact, His GIFT has given me such joy that I love to share HIM with others. Thanks be unto God for His unspeakable GIFT, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour Forever! Love In Christ, Tom
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