Welcome to CU Matt!
Looking foward to your posts!
-Am-

Hello awc1,
Glad you found it to be informative.  I have little knowledge but know that I will at least be here to give encouragement, or my thoughts for that matter.  Blessings to you and I'm looking forward to your posts!
-Am-

Quote from: linssue55 on Today at 10:09:54 AM
Yes I do understand what you are saying, what I am trying to say is I do not, nor will ever believe what you guys believe regarding pastor teachers, I know what the bible say's all about them.  I have seen both sides of the coin, and I know which side is real and true.  There is a reason for acedemic training and teachings, until you have listened to what I have listened to you cannot say, for the proof is in the writings, the proof is in the teachings.  I ran across this very same subject matter with christians for years, and I just say to myself "They do not understand!"   That is where I leave it.  It is up to every christian to decide for themselves.  I know someone that went to seminary for 3 years, and to this day he still say's, "What I have learned form just one tape (ICE) is more than what I have learned in the 3 years in seminary."  They did not teach ICE.  This was 20 years ago for this person, and we are both still under the same ministry.  I knew this 70 year old man that started on the tapes, he has always been a christian, and he said, "I have found the truth, the real truth after all of these years and now I walk around in utter happiness like I never have before.  I had no idea what I had been missing." I have dozens of these.  It is impossible for people to understand what  I have been trying to say, they are stuck in their old ways, as tradition may have it. 

They are comfortable in their own way, without exploring the way God meant for all christians to comprehend His words.  For I know and millions of others (that follow this teaching) know, that this IS exactly the way the Lord meant for ALL of His children to know the word, and it is all because of our pastor teachers years and years of acedemic learning that have brought us to this conclusion.  This is the ONLY way, just like faith, it is something you know deep inside our soul but are unable to express it. Nothing will ever change my mind

Grace and Peace to you......


Hello Linssue,
Seems like your an academic.   I'm confused by some of what you said in your last reply.  Are you saying that if Pastors do not teach by the ICE method, then they are not teaching correctly?  If God meant for all christians to comprehend His words only one way "(without exploring the way God meant for all christians to comprehend HIs words) (this IS exactly the way the Lord meant for all his children to know the word)" then what would be the point of prayer, reading the scripture and applying it to my own life struggles and happines? Why should I fall on my knees and praise Jesus when I could simply go to this person who had years and years of academic training and get my answer?  Since you are a theologian you will understand what I'm saying when I ask... would this not fall under the category "Appeal to the man?"  Years and years of academic study can give you knowledge, can make you feel secure in your answers............but it can not give you experience, experience that comes from the grace of our Lord!  Pro 3:7  Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.  Some of the best teachers in the world have been children, not sure they would understand the ICE concept! LUKE 10:21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure."    Thanks for allowing me to post my opinion and for clarifying what you are saying. I'm one person who isn't affraid of what they don't understand, so please, in reading my response, do not assume that you can lump me in with groupings of common bodies of people that you have referred to in your previous posts...Thanks an aweful bunch! Blessings and love to you!
Your brother in Christ
-Am-

PRAISE REPORT: Your ministry has kept me in prayer...Liver Results & HIV Are Back & Excellent !

I have just heard this week from my Liver Specialist:

+ PRAISE GOD, my Hep C viral level is UNDETECTABLE ! After only 3 months of the 1 yr. of treatment; plus no signs of anemia !

+ & as an EXTRA Heavenly bonus---my hiv viral level is ALSO undetectable.

Need continued prayers though as I must do 9 more mos. of liver meds & both meds can build up a resistance & bring back viral levels...

Meanwhile & always---GOD IS GOOD !!!

Thank you Jesus!

AMEN!

I think its a fair assessment.  We will see what happens when August comes to a close.

Little green army men!
Always had "supper time" when my father come home from work.
Opening the screen door by pushing on the screen instead of using the handle, my Dad was never happy about that.
Wiffle Ball!
Hose!
Matchbox cars!m (Hot Wheels if you were cool)
Balsa wood airplanes that cost 10 cents at the local 5 & Dime
Big League Chew (gum)
Catching Minows in the stream
Big Wheels
Digging for Earth worms
Star Wars figures

mmmm....espresso! 
Welcome back brother Tom! 
Time for another cup of "mud" 

[-------UPDATE------]

-------UPDATE------

For those that understand I am starting my out prossesing.

I am not afraid of whats to come ("tommorow will care for itself") but I have some "separation anxiety"

I have been in the Air Force since I graduated high school..............hard to let it go, but the Lord is relocating me, and I'll go.

Its also comforting to know that the Lord relocates with us.  Gary, you will be in my prayers brother!

Pong!  I completely forgot about that!!   

Well,
I'm not so old school, but I grew up in the late 70's early 80's and there still wasn't all the video things that there is now.  However, my childhood was great! Saturday morning cartoons were everything!!!  I grew up in an apartment complex and there was always tons of kids to play with.  Our biggest joy was "kick the can," which is a version of hide and go seek, stick ball was a must in the evening.  We also played in the woods a lot, but that just gave me poison ivy...LOL!  Nothing to help the itch besides some kind of yellow detergent soap my mom use to buy!  The only video game system that came out then was ATARI, but that was for the rich people in the neighborhood.....LOL! Yes, I still have quiet an imagination that stems from my childhood. 

Morning all!
I made mine with a litte extra kick this morning 

["a crock"]

I am disturbed by the Priest's attitude.. "a crock" and then at the end the man says that it is about YOU.. YOU.. YOU focusing on YOURSELF to make this world a better place.

Yes, I noticed that too.  Thats why I will always put my faith in Christ, the way, the truth, the light! 

how about frappaccino

frappaccino can be good and a good way to keep cool while getting a litte extra jolt 

Tim,
I will be praying!
What an awesome experience.  Thanks for sharing!
Blessings!
-Am-