DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT OR HAVE SCRIPTURE ON WHATS KNOWN AS THE "WITCHING HOURS", YOU KNOW THOSE LATE NIGHTS TIMES WHEN SOME OF US MIGHT CALL OURSELVES MINISTERING EITHER ON THE TELEPHONE, EMAILS, VISITS, ETC. PLEASE BLESS MEWITH YOUR INSIGHT!

PRAISE THE LORD,

db please look at post #22 on this subject, there are some other scriptures that you may be able to help me with, specifically in romans...

this guy,

welcome and god bless you!

the first thing i want to tell you is DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE THE MEDICATION IF IT IS FOR A PSYCH ISSUE. IF YOU HAVE NOT YET STARTED, DON'T. IF YOU HAVE STARTED ALREADY, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG ITS BEEN SINCE YOU'VE STARTED YOU MIGHT NEED TO CONTINUE.

very quickly, do not try to understand god with science or worldly wisdom....he'll never let it work that way...trust him in faith and all things will become clear for you...the holy spirit will lead you and guide you into all truths.

the truth of the matter is in some ways you are right, you have been predestined before the foundations of the earth.

GODS WILL WE BE DONE IN YOUR LIFE IF YOU CHOSE HIM, BUT IF YOU CHOSE THE DEVIL, HIS PLAN FOR YOUR DEATH WILL BE DONE...

THERE ARE TWO ROADS ONE LEADS TO DEATH, ONE LEADS TO LIFE...THE TRAVEL IN BETWEEN EACH OF THEM IS ONE THING, BUT THE ROAD YOU TRAVEL ON IS YOUR CHOICE.

reminds me of visiting some churches. when you first get there, they hide that their sons are sleeping with the entire choir, they hide that they are money hungry, they hide that they are full of pride and have sought gods kingdom to achieve some type of stardom....that is until you join. {Quote from GKB}

Greetings GKB,

For one to obtain this kind of information about {their sons} would all most put one in sin themselves, through "GOSSIP". 
And as BEP said if one truly is of the family, he would not be into any kind of fornication anyway. And for what ever reason one would come across this type of information, prayers should be going up for them and not judgment.
That's why, accountability is important among brothers, {a brother accountable to another brother} and like wise a {sister accountable with another sister}.  ( A PURE HEART)
And one should be in church, for fellowship and worship and to hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying to the churches.  If God is not there then one with the gift of discernment would know that and look to the Lord to guide them to one alive in the Spirit.
And for them churches that are full of pride and or mis-using the finances of the church. Sin won't be hidden long, God is in control, its His battle anyway, He will police His own. Many ministries on TV, have the leader of them that needs to be honest and repent of obvious sins against God and of its members. There are many avenues to go about it as a brother of the King, if and when these fruits are present. But the first thing one would do, is to check in with Him and lift up prayers for our concerns, then stand fast and wait upon the glory of the Lord.
Getting offended is just what the enemy wants. That does not mean we are to be passive, either. The enemy is always out to steal our identity in Christ. If we are using our Armor right we will be alert to his strategies. I personally pray on the Armor of God every morning. Or I feel I'm going on my own strength, not the Spirit's. I'm no match for the enemy alone.

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.  {KJV}

Ephesians 6:18  And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with  all kinds of prayer and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep praying for all the saints. {LABNIV}

That "be alert" goes a long way with me, alert always to the wiles of the enemy, which it says in verse 11.
The NIV explains this verse as to be in prayer always, never ceasing, your life as becoming a prayer, {in relationship with Jesus} always talking to God. Praying for all believers and the Christians you know and the church around the world. and for them that are struggling with sin, or are not in the  "Good Soil".
Pray, put on the Armor of God and keep on praying, but be Alert! Because the enemy just wants to get our focus off what Jesus would do in any situation, and try to lure us to sin.

May the Lord bless thee and keep thee.
Only always for Jesus
in the love of a {Hoosier} brother, in Jesus name
ggamble

I WOULD GO INTO THIS SCRIPTURELY, BUT most of us only receive the peices of scripture the validates their point and for humans, that makes sense. but to be perfectly honest with you, you do not have to know rocket science to know when someone is not living a sold out life for christ... THATS NUMBER ONE!

BUT NUMBER TWO...how is it gossip when these wounded young women and men call YOU for prayer or advice after they have been scared?

how is it gossip when the "friends" pop up pregnant?

it turns out that many people turn to me for support in many of these situations, know why? because they have recognized that i am not just talking, but i am praying, fasting, and living this out.

the only reason i voice some of these concerns on this site is because it appeared to be a site where we could have mature christian discussion about  actual issues...i assure you this is not what i discuss in the presence of weaker or baby saints. my mistake because i assumed much of this went without saying!

i don't play with sinners or sin! (those people who consciencely practice sin with no remorse) gods judgement is coming, and the word of god declares that hes going to start right in YOUR church....so we can keep substatuting gods grace for outright sin all we want to but at some point we better tell somebody the truth...and what is true? gods word is true. wisdom will teach you how to use what, when, and where! lets not just play scripture battle to prove each other wrong, lets actually help each other. believe it or not i am open for help...but i do not let the wrong spirit feed me anything even if that spirit is TALKING right! or for the sake of the site typing right. i do not understand what spirit has led us to a place of battle...but i know that everytimesome of you see the name GKB, you prepare to let your viewpoint go the other way...or actually i do understand...i believe in the gifts of the spirit, and i believe there is only one god and not three.

i've expressed that in a way that forced some to re-evaluate their theology which naturally made them uncomfortable. i know thats true, because i never went against the name of jesus, his blood, his body, his word, or his spirit, yet some folk were ready to dismiss me for disagreeing to the point where they made up reasons for it....but thats neither here nor there...i will pull at you and attempt to stretch you spritually proberly everytime you come in contact with me soooo let get ready to be blessed with the truth rather it comes from you or rather the lord sends it through me.

now the truth be told, there are many hyprocrites in the church...period! rather nbc writes about it or you! i do agree with the petition, however between us christians isn't it true? and based on your theories you all shouldn't be judging the people on the stations, but instead quietly praying for them!

or right than be blessed bye-bye now!

i'll proberly go into hiding for a little while cause i know i may be in the cu principle's office in a minute! haha....

truthfully i love you all have a good day today inthe name of jesus!

AMEN BEP!

I DO AGREE FOR THE MOST PART....MY PROBLEM IS THAT IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS THE CASE IN CHURCHES ALL ACROSS AMERICA...AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE BUILDINGS ARE CONCERNED....SO I DO AGREE. GOD BLESS YOU, AND KEEP UP THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR THE LORD!

i agree with this fight and am extreamly happy of the results that it is getting, as a matter of fact , i'd like to sign whatever is needed to keep it off the air....but now, let me ask you....

why are we so upset that they are portraying exactly whats going on in churches and pulpits all across america...as a matter of fact they left many things out.

i imagine they get this from the media and how we find ourselves in the news for thing that are not like god...

on one end its really sad that they are trying to air such a horrible show, but on the other hand its really sad that we can not deny that its happening even though we strive to cover it up.

it reminds me of visiting some churches. when you first get there, they hide that thier sons are sleeping with the entire choir, they hide that they are money hungry, they hide that they are full of pride and have sought gods kingdom to achieve some type of stardom....that is until you join.

we really should be mad that this is the horrible injustice that we are doing to our witness as the people of god.

so after we finish talking about how horrible hollywood is to us, turn that TWO EDGED SWORD on us and begin to talk about how horrible we are to us.

PRAISE THE LORD BROTHERS AND SITERS,

         thank you all for the wonderful feed back! but let me ask you, what do you make of hewbrews 6:4-6:6 FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED, AND HAVE TASTED OF THE HEAVENLY GIFT, AND WERE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST, AND HAVE TASTED THE GOOD WORD OF GOD, AND THE POWERS OF THE WORLD TO COME, IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTENCE; SEEING THEY CRUCIFY TO THEMSELVES THE SON OF GOD AFRESH,AND PUT HIM TO AN OPEN SHAME.


or lets take hewbrews 10:26? for if we sin willfully after that we have received knowledge of the truth, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRAFICE FOR SINS,.( you could read on further if you like)!


sin breaks fellowship with god, so how can we willfully do it and still gain the kingdom of heaven?

how about luke 9:62 AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, NO MAN, HAVING PUT HIS HAND TO THE PLOW AND LOOKING BACK IS FIT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD! this he said to a man who wanted to go back to his family, how much more to those who go back to sin?

you know, what i'm finding is that if we search hard enough we could find scripture to back up sin (which is what the devil specializes in) i have had a man use scripture to show me that homosexuallity was alright by god, and if i didn't know what i know about the lord, he could have very well tricked me....according to him, it was right there in the scripture.

i'm saying that to say this,  i could use scripture to make any situation go my way if i am a skilled manipulator... i'm not saying thats anybody here, but i know god would not tell me not to sin, i go outright disobey him and sin, and still go to heaven....i don't even have to repent or nothing....that is far from the truth. did god give his word and say, here are the commandments, but do what ever you want you'll go to heaven anyway!

well, i will do my best to stay free of willful sins, and repent of those that i make or make and not know of...because living holy is in my best interest....and yours too.

check out the story of noah, than check out the story of moses.....these folk were warned!

why do we keep fighting the spirit of the lord jesus? o taste and see that the lord is good.

why not simply try to believe god by faith and see where it leads you?

everyone is saying that i am talking with an attitude, i'm not very nice, i should word it better, etc...but when you are passionate about the truth, sometimes it just seems that way.

i have not once boosted on a title, or bragged about myself, but than again as i wright this, i realize its not necassary for me to defend myself, so i'll stop!

i've seen the truth affend and upset people before, so this is common!

I LOVE THE LORD! I LOVE HIM! I LOVE HIS SPIRIT AND ALL THATS ASSOCIATED WITH HIM "I" DARE NOT DENOUNCE, but thats just me. anyone who wants to denounce him or his gifts can....

but i made a choice, and that choice is to believe god. i refuse to lean to my own understanding, because that doesn't work. so if i have to believe god by myself i will.

p.s. i will not be answering anymore insults thrown at me, i will only deal with the issue of helping people who want a clearer understanding get it.

i count the ridicule to be greater than all the riches in egypt!

when you become aroused by faith... it doesn't really matter what the multitudes think!

many of us have given up on seeing the miracles of the gifts of the spirit because we have been believing for X amount of years and still haven't seen the results of our weak faith.

but there was a man who for one hundred and twenty years preached the true message of "its going to rain" and do you know how many joined his church? EIGHT!

So we can keep preaching what sounds ngood and feels good all we want to, but there is a consequence for not doing it gods way......everybody drowned, except the eight, EVERYBODY! so please forgive me if i don't jump on the ban wagons, i do not mind being the less popular person here!

but i'm going to keep doing what i know is right in the sight of the lord....maybe somebody here will become one of the eight of our generation.

peace and blessings sisters and brothers.

catty, thank you for your response....may god continue to bless you! i do not know why i need to say this to you, but if god be for you, he's more than the whole world against you! REST IN IT!

catty, what is a/g church? and what type of church were you attending prior to your switch, and what made you switch?

CATTY,

i agree, but wait....you've just entered yourself in battle. people are going to try to give you all kinds of scriptures to tell you thats not true....but hold fast to your doctrine and your teahing....just keep at it...don't let anybody convince you that god is not real on the level that you know him. many are not going to understand....because with all our titles and training, we haven't reached this basic learning yet....so be blessed and get ready.

i do encourage you in the lord...and for your sake i may need to continue to follow this closely so that you are not alone in the truth, but may god bless all our sisters and brothers on this site.

once again, i'm just talking about tongues here, because thats what the topic calls for...so i do agree!

the reason that you may see alot of attention focused on "gifts" in these post is because of the posted topic. remember the topic? "TONGUES-A SIGN" SO I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH ALL THAT THE BIBLE HAS SAID IS TRUE. tongues is the topic, thats why i'm addressing that...so lets not twist it with all of our worldly wisdom so that we can get cu points. i preach and teach the bible everyday, and little teaching is geared towards the gift of tongues, but thats the topic here. if we were talking about salvation, we'd be in agreement, but we are talking about tongues...remember?

so after we've finished fooling everybody and finished convincing them that we have the mandatory point, lets go back to the topic as it was posted....after you research the topic...you'll remember why my focus is on tongues. HELLO!

never once did i post on any of my abilities, i never said i raised the dead, i said i've seen it done! REMEMBER? never said i healed the sick, i said i've seen it done! REMEMBER?

so what are we talking about? i'd rather boost in my infirmities that the power of christ may rest on me! his strength is made perfect in weakness...so i confess, i GKB, am a mess...but thank god for the power of christ saving me..giving me grace, providing me mercy....NOT MY STUDY HABITS, NOT MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, BUT HIS MERCY AND GRACE! you can't earn this or by this...if it were up to our might, or statures, or if it were for sale, none of us could afford it, NONE OF US!

so once again to god be the glory for the things he has done. now god bless you brothers and sisters.

and catty keep seeking...like you are....for you will reap (or continue reaping) in due season if you faint not.

don't worry about who agrees because the road is narrow!

hello and praise the lord!

i was not asking if i was exceptable in gods eyes, i was asking if i was yet exceptable in the forum eyes.

i have seen/heard tongues interpreted...but my faith takes me to these places in the spirit where things like that can happen for me.

i'm not better than anybody....as a matter of fact, the only thing that seperates me from a drunk, a fornicator, a drug abuser, is the fact that gods grace is holding me...thats my belief. so theres the theory that my pride is high. there is more to the kingdom of god than our faith allows us to believe. and often times, it is that which challenges you that teaches you...problem is it is impossible to teach one who knows already. i am not going to debate or fight with people whom i consider sisters and brothers, however, god will not be silenced, and for his sake neither am i. so excuse me if i don't always agree, but what am i to expect... folk didn't always agree with jesus! he still right, folk just don't agree. so i've moved past needing to be accepted by the elect.

tongues are real, the spirit of god is real, and thats regardless of rather or not you've seen it, believe it, heard it, felt it, moved in it, spoke in it, taught in it, touched in it, or what have you....i have understood that god is god rather or not people believe.

i am not the message, just the messenger! okay dears? kay!

with all this that you all are talking, has anybody yet laid hands on the sick, and they've been recovered? have you raised the dead yet? where care the miracles? i'll tell you where they are, and than you can go preach this message to your church. the miracles are somewhere behind your unbelief....start believing god...he said greater works than these shall you do, well have you? if not, you must not be  doing the thing that causes you to do greater works.... where are the miracles pastors, teachers, reachers? where is the power of god? its available, because i've seen everything that i just named, yes even one get up from the dead (and tongues were being spoken at the time, and an interpreter was in the building). but i have believed in god before i seen him....thats why i gave my life....so jump right back off the ban wagon that causes anyone to agree that gods power and gifting is not real and active...the sad thing is the devil believes greater than some of us. how the devil gonna have more faith than us? well i guess its because he seen the lord and we haven't! well i guess that explains that what we've seen theory!

how many of you all know that god is greater than what you've seen or experenced so far...stick with him by faith he just gets better, and better...just like the commercial, he keeps going, and going and going and...well you get it, or do you?

once again, i am not the message, just the messenger!

god bless you sister reba...how did i do? am i yet exceptable?
please bare in mind that this disagreement is for this subject and that i do not disagree with everything that come across these sacred boards, however, like it or not i am still a child of god and proberly your brother. so if you plan to be in heaven i'm going, so we may have to spend eternity togther, so let it go.

its not always such a good idea to be on the popular side. i know many have but me in my grave, but just like jesus, i keep on showing up!

if god be for me, than he more than.....well you know

WELL ITS A NEW YEAR, AND LETS MOVE ON TO NEW THINGS. sorry that i'm not apart of the "team". i will continue to CRY LOUD AND SPARE NOT. TO GOD BE THE GLORY FOR THE THINGS HE HAS DONE....I WILL NOT CAST ANOTHER PEARL ON THIS SUBJECT...SO NOW AGREE AMONGST YOURSELVES THAT YOU ALL ARE RIGHT AND ENJOY. growth is caused by going past the norm...MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF  YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS!

I PRAY THAT MY TESTIMONY THIS YEAR IS THAT WHEN I BRING IN THIS NEW YEAR AT CHURCH I HAVE A TREMENDOUS BREAKTHOUGH! IN JESUS NAME...AMEN!