Hmm... I still think there are better ways to familiarize ourselves with the tools of the enemy than exposing ourselves directly to this kind of thing, but I'll leave it at that.

A question though that this subject has brought up in my mind. We know that demons and the enemy himself can change their appearence. Things like this are evidence enough of that. However, do you believe that servants of the Lord can also take on the form of another, perhaps a loved one? Certainly, the encounters I have in mind are nothing like on this telivision show..

Let me just explain, and I'd be interested in any input those more adept with the Scriptures have to add.

I believe that God does allow angels to take on the form of others, perhaps loved ones long since passed. When my great uncle, Roger, died, we know from what he said in those last moments that he saw someone standing next to him, his mother. I do not believe that it was her in the literal sense, but do you believe that perhaps an angel was sent to guide him to Heaven, and that was the form taken because it would be a comfort to him?

Maybe that's because many of them ARE illegals? 

Heh... Well, it's gratifying to know you have such an intelligent son, Pastor Roger. I know we're not alone, but statistically speaking the ratio of smart people to idiots is something like 20:80

Heh... I'm glad my views give you hope, Pastor Roger, but unfortunately, I fear I am the exception to the rule. The majority of those my age are liberal and stupid. X.X

Pastor Roger and others, I want to thank you for dealing with Rhys. I have debated with people over these issues for almost THREE YEARs, and frankly, I'm quite tired of it.

Rhys, as Pastor Roger pointed out, protecting the constitution of the United States is protecting the PEOPLE of the United States.

And quite frankly, I would not mind if some of these politicians were arrested for the traitorous remarks they make. Again, maybe they have not inherently broken any laws, but they have done NOTHING but undermine this administration, and our men and women in uniform from DAY ONE of this war on terror.

They care ONLY for their political gain, and it makes me SICK!

*sigh*

You know, I think we've heard this song already, Pastor Roger. I can't tell you how many times even on another CHRISTIAN board, I constantly hear the words... "Illegal and immoral war".

Rhys, Pastor Roger is correct. The primary job of the president of the United States is to do all things necessary to protect the PEOPLE of the United States and to uphold their constitution. WE did not start this war! Forget about official declarations. The TERRORISTS started this war a LONG time ago, back before Bush's time.

How many terror attacks did we and the rest of the civilized world endure during the Clinton administration? Kobar towers, US Embassy bombings, USS Cole, first WTC bombing... Shall I go on? Why did it take 9/11 and the death of 3,000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS (One of which, BTW, could have been my grandfather, but God allowed him to become stuck in traffic and so he was not in the Twin Towers that day) to wake this country up? Why could PREVIOUS administrations, including the CLINTON administration that had the chance for Osama Bin Laden's head on a platter almost a dozen times not wake up to the fact that there was an enemy, that there IS an enemy fighting to destroy us and our way of life? Why could they not wake up to the fact that there are NUTJOBS out there who seek to cover all the world in the shadow of their moon god's twisted theocracy?!

And why, even now is the congress so BOGGED DOWN in its politics that they attack even the very men and women who give their lives to keep this country safe? IMHO, this president has done EXACTLY what needed to be done to fulfill his duty, to uphold the constitution and to keep this country safe. Since the fight was taken to our attackers, Rhys, no less than 11 terror attacks have been PREVENTED on our soil!

I reitterate. The people who are more concerned about their political futures than about the welfare of this country do not DESERVE to have a place in our government. John Murtha, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Conyers, Nancy Pelosi, John Edwards, Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold and all the rest have proven they care more about their power than about this country time and time again! They have their heads so far up their rear ends that they cannot see that if they do not stand behind our leaders, and our men and women in uniform on this ONE ISSUE, if they are willing to sell out those who give their blood to defend this country in order to assure their political futures, THEY WILL NOT HAVE POLITICAL FUTURES!

Maybe there is no constitutional ground to be rid of them, but I tell you that in my mind they have betrayed this country a hundred times over. They have stabbed our men and women in uniform and our leader in the back for the sake of their POWER. And personally, I think that if our founding fathers knew what was happening with this government, they would be rolling over in their graves.

Thank GOD for men like George W. Bush who are willing to do what needs to be done, even in the face of opposition and treachery even from within this country!

Not yet, but if this goes through, it will... X.X

A simple comment. As far as I'm concerned, we should JAIL ANYONE who puts political gain ahead of the good of this country! I agree... John Murtha, who before any investigations were even complete, before any trials had been held or even charges lowered, accused our men and women in uniform of 'killing in cold blood' fits that bill perfectly!

Is it constitutional to do such things? Maybe not... But I'm nothing if not an idealist.

And if they are not then outrage should be directed JUST AS MUCH at the parents. Even if they are not directly pushing their children into this indoctrination, their COMPLICITY makes them just as guilty. 

Lock your doors folk! Political Correctness army's comin through! BAH!

Why are we blasting only the teachers? Where is the personal accoutability for the PARENTS who allow their children to be assosiated with this garbage?!

I have friends with homosexual tendencies, and even THEY are disgusted by what goes on at these events. 

Unfortunately, I have not. I know Tivo has some nifty features, but I don't know what those features entail.

There's allot more I couldn't put here, Jerry. I guess she feels her mother is far too controlling, too angry, always yelling, etc.

The thing is, I know all you're saying is true. I learned that the first time she made threats like this. I'm not sure if I mentioned it above or not, so I'll say it here. The changes I have seen in her since she started dating Kevin have NOT been positive by a long shot.

I know Satan is working overtime, yet I can't help but remember that where Satan is at work, God is at work even moreso. I have prayed for two years God would use people and circumstances in her life to draw her to Him, and sometimes I can't help but wonder if this is an answer to my prayers and I just do not like it... I don't know.

I also understand what you are saying about my feelings... However, note the past tense of the phrase I used. I have since moved on and begun a relationship with a mutual friend named Mallory (Look in the answered prayer section. ). I still love Holli dearly as a friend, almost a sister, but I have become far more blunt with her in this situation, and I think laying aside what I once felt for her has allowed me to do do that.

Thankyou for everything, Brother Jerry, and keep in touch.

But... But... Pastor Roger! All they're trying to do is keep the people objectively informed! Don't you support that?!














HAHAHA!!! I'm sorry... I'm just having too much fun with this. 

But... But that would violate CNNs freedom of speech Pastor Roger! If we start telling the news media what they can and can't say, can total government control of the media be far behind???


















































OKAY! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! I KNEW I COULDN'T SAY THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!