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1  Entertainment / Movies / Re: The Phantom of the Opera on: March 26, 2006, 09:00:51 PM
*blink* *blink*

What have you been doing, DW, that's kept you too busy to see the new Phantom of the Opera?!? Oh, dear. I'll pray for you. Grin

Seriously, though, I really loved it. You've just got to see it! And soon!!

 Cool

kestrel

P.S. I'm immensely jealous of your seeing the stage production, and I'd love to see the 1943 film.  Tongue
2  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re: Found this interesting... Afghan convert on: March 26, 2006, 08:47:45 PM
And the update:

KABUL, Afghanistan - A court on Sunday dismissed the case against an Afghan man facing possible execution for converting from Islam to Christianity, officials said, paving the way for his release.

The move eased pressure from the West but raised the dilemma of protecting Abdul Rahman after his release as Islamic clerics have called for him to be killed.

One official said freedom might come as soon as Monday for Rahman, who became a Christian in the 1990s while working for an aid group in neighboring Pakistan.

Muslim extremists, who have demanded death for Rahman as an apostate for rejecting Islam, warned the decision would touch off protests across this religiously conservative country. Some clerics previously vowed to incite Afghans to kill Rahman if he was let go.

Rahman was moved to Kabul's notorious high-security Policharki prison Friday after inmates at a jail in central Kabul threatened him, Policharki's warden, Gen. Shahmir Amirpur, said.

Authorities have barred journalists from seeing Rahman. But on Sunday, officials gave AP an exclusive tour of Policharki, which houses some 2,000 inmates, including about 350 Taliban and al-Qaida militants.

Amirpur said Rahman had been asking guards for a Bible but they had none to give him.

"He looks very calm. But he keeps saying he is hearing voices," Amirpur said.

Rahman was in solitary confinement in a tiny concrete cell next to a senior prison guard's office. AP was shown the cell door, but barred from speaking with or otherwise communicating with him.

A senior guard said inmates and many guards had not been told of Rahman's identity because of fears they might attack him.

But Amirpur vouched for the prisoner's safety. "We are watching him constantly. This is a very sensitive case so he needs high security."

The case set off an outcry in the United States and other nations that helped oust the hard-line Taliban regime in late 2001 and provide aid and military support for Afghan President Hamid Karzai.     President Bush and others insisted     Afghanistan protect personal beliefs.

A Supreme Court spokesman, Abdul Wakil Omeri, said the case had been dismissed because of "problems with the prosecutors' evidence." He said several of Rahman's relatives testified he is mentally unstable and prosecutors have to "decide if he is mentally fit to stand trial."

Another Afghan official closely involved with the case told The Associated Press that the court ruled there was insufficient evidence and returned the case to prosecutors for further investigation. But he said Rahman would be released in the meantime.

"The court dismissed today the case against Abdul Rahman for a lack of information and a lot of legal gaps in the case," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly comment on the case.

"The decision about his release will be taken possibly tomorrow," the official added. "They don't have to keep him in jail while the attorney general is looking into the case."

Secretary of State     Condoleezza Rice, who said she had not received official confirmation from Afghan authorities, told Fox News the announcement was "a very good step forward."

She said on CNN's "Late Edition" that the U.S. government had stressed to Karzai that religious freedom is a vital element of democracy.

"We're going to stand firm for the principle that religious freedom and freedom of religious conscience need to be upheld, and we are hoping for a favorable resolution in this case," Rice said.

The uproar left Karzai in an awkward position. While trying to address concerns of foreign supporters, he also has sought not to alienate religious conservatives who wield considerable influence in Afghanistan.

The court's decision was sure to anger at least some of the clerics who have strongly demanded that authorities enforce a provision in the country's Islamic-based laws calling for the execution of Muslims who abandon the faith.

"There will be big protests across Afghanistan," said Faiez Mohammed, a Sunni Muslim leader in the northern city of Kunduz. "This has shamed Afghanistan in the eyes of other Muslim countries."

A Western diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said it wasn't clear if the 41-year-old Rahman would be able to stay in Afghanistan or have to move abroad.

A prison official told AP that Rahman had been moved to a new prison Friday because of threats from inmates at his first jail.

Rahman was being prosecuted for converting 16 years ago while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan. He was arrested last month after police discovered him with a Bible.

In an interview published Sunday by an Italian newspaper, Rahman said his family, including his former wife and two teenage daughters, reported him to authorities.

He stressed that he was fully aware of his choice to convert.

"If I must die, I will die," Rahman told the Rome daily La Repubblica, which did not interview him directly but channeled questions through a human rights worker who visited him in prison.

Rahman said he chose to become a Christian "in small steps" after leaving Afghanistan around 1990. He moved to Peshawar, Pakistan, then Germany and tried to get a visa in Belgium.

"In Peshawar, I worked for a humanitarian organization. They were Catholics," Rahman said. "I started talking to them about religion, I read the Bible, it opened my heart and my mind."

After saying he was ready to die, he told La Repubblica: "Somebody, a long time ago, did it for all of us," in a clear reference to Jesus Christ.
___

Associated Press correspondent Rahim Faiez in Kabul contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/ap_on_re_as/afghan_christian_convert
(bold mine)


Isn't that just awesome??

kestrel
3  Entertainment / Movies / Re: The Phantom of the Opera on: March 25, 2006, 01:46:22 PM
Methinks the Phantom was just misunderstood. Roll Eyes

All right, I'm joking. BTW, did you guys know that Gerard Butler (the Phantom) was the leading guy in Lara Croft 2? Didn't really like the movie, but he was a good "misunderstood" bad guy (Terry Sheridan) there, too. And apparently he was in a rock band. Cool, huh? Many thanks to imdb.com... Grin

kestrel
4  Entertainment / Laughter (Good Medicine) / Re: The Italian Tomato Garden on: March 25, 2006, 01:36:46 PM
Oh, oh, oh, oh! That just tickled me to death!  Cheesy

(I'd put more smilies to show just how hard I laughed but I'd hate to blind you.)

kestrel
5  Entertainment / Movies / Re: The Phantom of the Opera on: March 25, 2006, 01:33:39 PM
My all-time favorite movie. I've got the DVD and the soundtrack.

And tqpix, you're not alone. Grin
6  Entertainment / Movies / Re: chronicles of Narnia on: March 25, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
I absolutely, positively, completely and throughly loved it!  Grin I will have it on DVD... (God willing!)

kestrel
7  Fellowship / You name it!! / Found this interesting... Afghan convert on: March 25, 2006, 01:16:48 PM

KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghan officials, trying to resolve a crisis over an Afghan who may face the death penalty for converting to Christianity, struggled on Saturday to satisfy conflicting international and domestic demands.

The controversy over the man who abandoned Islam, Abdur Rahman, 40, threatens to drive a wedge between Afghanistan and the Western backers who ensure its security and finance its development. Rahman’s trial is due to start in a few days.

International pressure on Afghanistan to respect Rahman’s religious freedom and release him from jail has been met in Afghanistan by calls for him to be tried under Islamic law and executed, and a threat of rebellion if the government frees him.

“There are lots of discussions going on,” said a government official who declined to be identified.

“We know there’s a lot of international concern ... We want to resolve this in a way that accommodates all expectations—international expectations and the expectations of the people.”

Rahman was detained last week for converting to Christianity, judicial officials say. Death is the punishment stipulated by sharia, or Islamic law, for apostasy. The Afghan legal system is based on a mixture of civil and sharia law.

Outcry from international community
The case has sparked an outcry in North America and Europe and led to some calls for peacekeeping troops to be withdrawn.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Friday she had met both President Hamid Karzai and the foreign minister.

“We are working with the Afghans and we look to a favourable resolution of this case,” Rice said. “We’ve been very clear: The freedom of religion is a fundamental principle of democracy.”

U.S. forces have been battling Taliban insurgents since defeating their government in late 2001. The United States is Afghanistan’s most important ally.

Pope Benedict has written to Karzai urging clemency for Rahman, the Italian news agency ANSA said on Saturday.

Benedict sent a letter in the past few days “which appeals for respect for human rights sanctioned in the preamble of the new Afghan constitution,” it added.

‘Polar opposites’
Rahman told a preliminary hearing last week he had become a Christian while working for an aid group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan 15 years ago. He later lived in Germany before returning to Afghanistan.

He was detained after his family told authorities he had converted, apparently following a family dispute involving two daughters, a judicial official said.

A chorus of clerics, politicians and ordinary people in the deeply conservative Muslim country is demanding Rahman be tried under Islamic law, though some Afghans say privately they support greater freedom of religion.
Karzai cannot ignore the conservatives or appear to bow to Western pressure. Canada said he had pledged that Rahman would not be executed.

A prosecutor has raised questions about Rahman’s mental state, and a judge said that could be taken into account. Rahman has denied he is mentally unstable.

The Afghan constitution says “no law can be contrary to the sacred religion of Islam” but also says it will abide by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which enshrines freedom of religion.

Copyright 2006 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12009717/



Just wanted to share a discovery from one of my online ramblings!

kestrel
8  Fellowship / Just For Women / Re: Chocolate is a Vegetable on: March 24, 2006, 02:50:54 PM
Love the poem, sincereheart!

CleanHeart, I'm a milk-and-sometimes-white chocolate gal meself, but since dark is still a kind of chocolate I won't hold it against you. Peppermint sticks are good when dipped in dark chocolate, anyway. Grin I'm a self-professed chocolate addict. Have any of you tried chocolate pecan pie?
9  Entertainment / Movies / Re: Christians Urged to Prepare for Sharing Truth After Da Vinci Code Movie Released on: March 24, 2006, 02:34:15 PM
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...This is the only thing I'm going to say about "normal" teens: I must be extraordinarily blessed because not one of the teens I live with (nieces, nephews, grandson) are disrespectful or sarcastic. Not one would even dream of correcting a person of authority. Be that what it is, I have an attitude with smart alecs...

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...It looks like I'll need help adjusting to the sarcastic, disrespectful young people of today. When I was 16, 17 .... 18 years old I held my elders up in high esteem (I still do) so forgive me for expecting that from kids today...

TalkerCat:
I was extraordinarily disappointed in your responses. Although I clearly understand that no saint on earth is perfect, your cold-heartedness and judgementalism shocked me. I was greatly blessed by many of your earlier posts. Apparently your lack of love for "smart alecs" is your weakness.

As professing Christians, we are blatantly sinning when we look down on others, judging them. How are you to know someone's heart? Any form of prejudice is evil, be it towards different races, different opinions, or those with different mind-sets or ways of expressing themselves. We must show God's kindness to all. As the saying goes, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." It's obvious you can show His love to others - I've seen it shine through many of your posts. Try showing it to all, even those you apparently loathe. Don't look down on anyone - try to see them through Jesus' eyes. How do you think God feels when you show derison to another one of His children, no matter who? You know He doesn't show favoritism, as it states in many Scriptures.

As you said in "Re: GOD don't want you to have TATTOO",

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Isn't "making a statement" what we're commanded to do? By Jesus?  Aren't we supposed to be "making a statement" about the TRUTH? and sharing "The Good News"?  My tee-shirt reads "Believer", what does yours say?

What kind of statement are you making?

Dear sister, I don't mean to preach at you! I just hate to see anyone getting stepped on, no matter who's doing the stepping. The only reason I'm even saying anything is because I understand how hard it is sometimes. Recently one of my co-workers has, shall we say, "gone to the dark side of the Force". She's a very unhappy lady, I believe, and though she says she's a Christian, she's doing more harm than good. She has the nasty little habit of talking about others behind their backs, gossiping and spreading lies, sometimes to the point of being openly hateful and malicious (most recently, and most vindictively about myself, but others on occasion). It hurts. However, I've found that the more love you show someone bothering you (whether they do so intentionally or unintentionally)... You just can't imagine how wonderful it is! Whether or not they "act better", you know deep in your soul that you did the right thing. It's a beautiful feeling. I hope you can share it soon.

With love in Christ,
kestrel
10  Entertainment / Movies / Re: Christians Urged to Prepare for Sharing Truth After Da Vinci Code Movie Released on: March 22, 2006, 11:59:24 AM
...I have finally figured him out. He is a normal teenager brother. Who like to make off the wall comments at times. I believe it is called scarsm.

I know many "normal teenagers" and he certainly doesn't qualify as one. (That's a good thing, Sapphire W34PON. Not that normal ones are bad... They aren't.)
11  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Awesome Scripture on: August 11, 2004, 02:34:27 PM
Another one I really like:

"Therefore, prepare your minds for action; be self-controlled; set your hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed." 1 Peter 1:13
12  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Awesome Scripture on: August 11, 2004, 02:33:49 PM
This is one of my personal favorites...

"Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins." James 4:17
13  Entertainment / Movies / Re:Shrek 2 on: June 13, 2004, 06:01:30 PM
His Messenger- *gasp!* What kind of movies have you been watching?! But I'm not saying Shrek 2 wasn't good. I loved it! But no good movies in the past 22 years?!?!


But again, I loved Shrek 2. I wanna see it again! It's funny, (okay, and a little pathetic,) because my sister and I have the script to Shrek almost completely memorized... Embarrassed Grin
14  Entertainment / Animals and Pets / Re:Dogs suck on: June 13, 2004, 05:43:25 PM
Dogs are good!

How many times must I say it before you plebians understand?

 Roll Eyes
15  Entertainment / Movies / Re:Favorite Movie Lines! on: May 16, 2004, 03:30:00 PM
I personally liked this one, by Will Smith in MIB...

"You don't start none, there won't be none!"

 Grin
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