Sumimasen JE-chan; In the US that is a problem, you can even get yourself arrested for removing yellow ribbons.

Hey Je: can you write japanese ? Then we could talk some japanese with eachother on this forum  

Mkay...  I think I just tried it very hard

Is this thread especting from me that I am to come out as a patriotic american or something ?

Whilst living in the EU ?  

People be reasonable; please....  don't espect from me that while i have been learned to be very carefull of a EU president, to respect a US president that did all this killing in the name of oil and imperialism, having a peace project on their agenda with Israel, to really be thankfull for ?

Bush is a dangerous person (period)

He is a good guy;recently I voice my opinion on him (on another board) in his quake-thread about his prophecies, and the admin banned me for using bad language.....

After I got messed up real bad for my (relaxed) opinion on him, and prophecy in general ( I used a scripture from paul, about the part that we prophecy partly, know partly, etc...)

Then I signed up for another account, explained my view & apologised; I got de-membered *again* !

*sigh*

You don't want to know my opinion on Dubya....  And if I would voice my opinion on him, this thread would go up in flames.

I decided to let time be the judge and learner here; i'm not like chaz defending my opinion/findings (again) after every posting in some christian board somewhere on this planet.

Christ was crucified at the feast of passover, and rose from the dead on the third day; a sabbathday. Exactly the same day that the people of Israel left Egypt. Therefore fullfilling the pascha-feast. Ya'll do the math....

The next feast that was to be fullfilled was the Pentecost; or early harvest. This is descibed in Acts.

The next feast that is to be fullfilled is the Rosh Hashanah; the feast of trumpets. All feasts are fullfilled on the exact date they where ordained by God unto moses.

After all; I'm Mr. date-setter here

Let's just say that I have had a whole lotta time to kill

Everybody that ask about my sig talks about the rapture in my sig....  funny...  where is the word rapture in my sig then ?

heheh

Ater I dug myself really deep into the word after three years of continuous study and education into the word, and after I had 2 major end-time visions of wich one is about to come to pass in full, and another following close after and intertwined with the first. I was curious when this would all happen, part of it has and had to do with my personal planning of life in general, and partly it had to do with the massive outporing and workings of the power of God in those two visions.

Back then was in 1995, I started to build on my rapture knowledge, the way world events would folllow up, the sircumstances of those events, etc.

After a while a very good friend & pastor pointed me to the feasts that where fulfilled unto the exact day they where ordained by God in deuterominum & leviticus.

The surprise came roughly a year later: the fullfillment of the rapture seemed to be the feast of Rosh Hashanah. Partly I was happy, and ont he other end I wasn't, as I felt it was 'just' one date, I didn't knew wich year exactly, and didn't knew where to place the event into the 70th week of daniel, etc, etc.  So you might say that the answer created new questions wich unto this day are answered in such a manner that dates emerge, events unfold (today). And the dates of wich are thought of not only by me, but by thousands, would be refined enough to serve as a footer in all my posts here.

My concept document about the rapture can be seen on my website under the title 'rapture' via the link : why/when/how
After the confirmation of the peace-covenant in Israel I will probably update it with new material.

Pre Trib is like firing all your good personel just before you enter the hard days where there is a lot of work to do.

Post wrath is letting al the good personel burn up after they did a good thing unto you.

Post Trib, pre wrath is like leaving a sinking ship after some very good effords to get some people into the gosple.

So without some big theological high-and-dry mish-mash I am able to explain this in biblical laymen terms.....  
What do you think that means...? I think that means i'm on the right track here.

Anyone want to hear my theological build-up for this, just scroll three posts higher i'll be happy to edify it ....

Mat 24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org

Hey AvenAleuthyra, who told you were lost ? it might just be that you're not.... Before all convertion/assimilation lions jump on you :

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Well.... that wasn't hard, was it ? All the rest is just there to kill some time on this planet.  

Birth pangs

Jer 49:23  Concerning Damascus. Hamath is confounded, and Arpad: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; [there is] sorrow on the sea; it cannot be quiet.

Luk 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

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Jer 49:24  Damascus is waxed feeble, [and] turneth herself to flee, and fear hath seized on [her]: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail.

Jer 50:43  The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, [and] pangs as of a woman in travail.

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Birth pangs used as a sign of the removal of the restrainer ?

Jhn 16:21  A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
John 16:21 talks about a woman in travail as a parable for the resurrection & ascention of Christ and the coming of the HG into this world at the the day of pentecost.
Yet this parable is also used in these days as in :
Mat 24:8  All these [are] the beginning of sorrows. ( or pangs)

The birth pang deals with a major shift in the spiritual realm that also has major reflections into the physical world, insomuch that the non-believer experiences what's written in Luke 21:25
Luk 21:25b  [...] and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
2Th 2:7  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.

1Tes5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
When you compare 1Tes5:3 with the as-a-woman-in-travail in Jer 50:43 & Jer 49:23 one could conclude that the destruction is brought by a destroyer, whilst talking about peace-and-safety:

Dan 8:25   And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many:  [...]
Dan 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen,
and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

I would like to point out that when Daniel 11:40/45 speaks about the current tour that GWB is doing, that Dan 12:1 is a followup of these events, and it is widely understood that Dan12:1 marks the start of the 70th week of Daniel, that after the fullfillment of Dan 11:44/45 the 70th week of Daniel will start. (!) The 70th week is widely known for the apperance of the 'so-called man-of-sin' making a peace treaty with the Israelites, and corfirming it for half the week (1260 days)

But as Dan 12:1 speaks also a time when:
Dan 12:1  And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

The last portion talks again about "thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book" (of life) That portion links directly to 1 Tes5:3 : "then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

So who will escape ? ALL THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK

Uzzia: thanks for the encouraging words (really!) I have an idea that there are more small churches in the US that still have the power and testimony of God in them. And a lot of online material I watch and read comes from the states. But unfortunately I must confess that I notice a lot of over-the-top patriotism over there that must be causing a much heavoc as anyone can get.

Forrester: Here in europe i'm a bit troubled with the following example of non-repentance :

Rev 16:9   And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory

So my mindset is more on :

Rev 22:20   He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Instead of:
Mat 24:14   And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Call it stupid, call it lazyness; but after several churchsplits, persecutions and personal & financial loss I called it a day over here. In these parts people just don't believe, and those that do want to hear you collect the data for their own faith or are in for a quick healing and then depart from His sight.

Do understand that I am still open to preach the gospel to anyone that wishes to hear it; but my church-going days are over; there isn't one left here. (exept for the catholic & old protestant)

Even though it's getting more calm on the international front after the Iraqi war, there is something looming on the horizon already; the peace plan for Israel. Sharon already announced the withdrawal of the Jewish settlements out of the disputed territories as a consession for the peace plan.
This peaceplan will be 'enforced' by the US.
Also the US seems to push beyond Iraq; and  instead of less troops, or talks about the withdrawal of troops more wartalk is uttered from the speakers on the US/NWO platform.

Silence, yet not a peacefull one often is the wait for a storm.

Greetings !