Wikipedia is worthless and is based on world views and not
Christian views if you look at a Christian its defintly not going to be a Mormon.  The world clusters all these people together who believe in God and call it Christianity while we know that is not true because the concept of salvation is very different and the attributes of God.

We werent arguing about any of those topics what are you talking about???  That was totally random.  Big D you never responded to my post so i can only believe that you have no argument and that i am right.  HAHA. VICTORY.

There is nothing wrong with fighting it helps people get there opinions out there and set others straight.

Big D what is your problem.  You say that are verses aren't applied here and you totally ignore Daniel 9:27a "He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering."  The he is the antichrist the many is Isreal and it will start the Tribulation because it says so right here.  You however have used ONE verse to support your belief there is no bibical proof at all that this happened.  If the tribulation occured then stopped is irrational.  Your missing componenets of the tribulation.  Like the antichrist.  There is no tribulation if there is no antichrust so where is the antichrist in acts.  You cant have two different ones there is only one.  And if your pretrib then you believe that the rapture occured before the tribulation so therefore before Acts which would be a couple days after Jesus ascends into heaven.   Your midtrib and you know it just admit it.

We both give examples of sites that have quotes supporting either argument. So who's more credible?

Obviously, me.

Im so glad you dont have any self confiendence issues why do you think your more credible.

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Christianity and Mormonism

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Mormonism is a form a Christianity in the sense that it traces its roots back to the teachings of Christ, and uses the same Old and New Testaments with only slight modifications and additional testaments and teachings. However, its practices are very different from contemporary Protestant and Catholic Christianity. Many Protestant and Catholic sects exclude it from Christianity entirely, and subjected Mormons to a great deal of persecution during the early years of the Church. For an extensive and detailed explanation see the following articles discussing differences and similarities."

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THEY USE "slight modifications" of the bible they have there own bible which isnt a bible and they have changed so many times its redicilous and to have additional testaments and teachings.  Is totally saying that I dont believe that God knows what he's talking about so im going to change this so it agrees with me and since the Bible is God breathed or inspiried. your messing with God's word and also these people are polythesistic because they dont believe in the Trinity they see it as three gods seperate.  And they believe they themselves can be God to.  Also its a matter of there salvation they dont have any.  They are lost.  The world might consider them a sec of Christianity but they are not.  They are one of those groups who are off seperate and think they believe in what believe in but they dont.  And some of those other groups you mentioned Sleeker they aren't Christians either because they dont believe that salvation is permnant and comes from and through Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins and raising up again.

First off stop talking in the third person, we know its you so you dont have to say "BigD responds"...second off your using the same excuse over and over again after me and bronzesnake gave you verses that show you you're wrong and once again.  WHERE IS THE TREATY?  No treaty no tribulation.  Daniel 9:27  Either way you say it your belief is midtrib its in the middle of the tribulation according to you aka midtrib.

no that would not be the tribulation more like the second coming.   and your taking it out of context.

gollum is a mutated hobbit not a troll.

im going to have to go with a liger no not a tiger a liger.  Its like my favorite animal.

I totally believe in Calvin's belief of predestination i dont know how fully i believe in his concepts overalll though.  Anyway with Peter in Acts.  Im pulling some of this from my bible commentary, the last days that Joel refers to is Hebrew for afterwards so hes talking about after the holy spirit comes not the tribulation or any such way and then Peter puts it in the context of the "latter days of the new covenant" aka the age of Messianic Covenant and its fullilment and quoting from my commentary "latter days of the new covenant in contrast to the former days of the old covenant".  Sry if this is confusing im sort of rushing but this is what Acts 2 is refering to.

The treaty can be found in Daniel 9:27 thats all i can say before I jet.

I think it be better if you put words like nuclear in there and all those other ones he pronuces wrong

But please dont say that about Catholics not that I am one but your being just as bad as me by making assumptions.

Again, I have no idea what you're referring to. I never said anything good or bad about Catholicism; I just said that J.R.R. Tolkien was one.

Go back a couple posts ago....
J.R. Tolkien,Christian author

J.R.R. Tolkein was Roman Catholic.

Your saying right there hey hes not Christian he's R.C.  thats were i got that from.

Thank you bronzesnake you just saved me about 5 minutes worth of typing.  I just want to state again that the record of what will occur concerning the trib is in revelation.  So BigD why would something that started in acts be repeated in Revelation?  And if you believe that we are raptured during a pause in the trib that still midtrib in a way.  your in the middle of the trib. when it happens.