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1  Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues on: December 04, 2004, 12:47:36 AM
Quote from: Jemidon2004
-my message to every liberal Christian who may not take the time to do the in-depth study of doctrine

 Grin
Joshua
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Doctrine: The cause of insiquition, the crusades, the witch trials, Christ's death, and even the modern church refusing healings.
Take note: I am a liberal Christian, not a Liberal Demorcrat (just in case I confused you)
Oh and yes, you are right you can not learn any gift.  Nor can any but the Holy Spirit give any gift.
But once given you can learn how to use it and follow it with faith.

BUT to refuse any gift is to refuse God's presence and/or the accuracy of  his word.
(Because his word plainly says it)
2  Theology / Debate / Re:Illegal Immigration on: December 04, 2004, 12:36:27 AM
Dreamweaver- I do, Texas.  To think my property stolen from the Mexican goverments and then lied about in the classroom.  

Yoyostick- Very, very true.  Although they have avaialbale to them great education.  But they cant afford the books, a meals and other things poor Americans get for free.

Silver- At least someone with a little compassioon.  But now I ask you to do what jesus would do.  Walk into these "scary" towns and give them your shirt and coat.  HAPPILY!
3  Theology / Debate / Re:I am new... But I have a question... on: December 02, 2004, 08:14:38 PM
If you feel uncomfortable it could be the Holy Spirit stirring up yours for this reason, to make you see what is wrong.

I believe for educational pursoses it is fine.  (altough I would pray first and after)

For enteratainment.... I'm afraid this could be dangerous to you realtionship with Christ.
4  Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:How Important is Honesty in a Moral Leader? on: December 02, 2004, 08:11:17 PM
I am one who thinks that our country's government depends on the public being honestly educated about current political events. Over the past four years the exact opposite has taken place.

Many Americans support attacking Iraq after believing a series of lies from the Bush Administration.

George Bush recieved his information from Russia as well as a few other countries.

The U.N. has been causght in a major money making conspiracy concering relief funds to Iraq.

And Bush had no mroe information that that his own intel, which was left to him by Clinton.

Just though I'd use some truth and educate those around be with out fgalse remarks.

In Christ's name my brothers and sisters,
Caleb
5  Theology / Debate / Re:Illegal Immigration on: December 02, 2004, 08:02:03 PM
Well, I think that we need border control to prevent these people from coming into our country. There are like 3 million illeagol aliens coming into our country each year. Free to walk right across the borders! Free to steal our jobs! Free to anyone to anyone who wants to come on over. Well, ya know what? Don't tell me that  we're doing all we can to prevent terrorism, when each day 8-9 thousand people come into our country illeagolly. Something has to be done about this!

What is our world!  Do you own anyting here where you stand!  Your home, does it belongh to you!

NO!  It was all given to you by God, you have been blessed but now you fear you jobs being lost, the economy falling, and your world coming down because someone is trying to make a life for themselves in this world.

I am sorry sir, but I tell you.  Go into Mexico, walk right in.  (bring a birth certificate)  

Start a factory.  (pay less than half of our minimum wages to your employees)  

Sell your products here in America!  

Sir, AMerican bussiness owners have stolen much more from Mexico and other Hispanic countries then they have us.

Futhermore....

I wish to place you into their soes if you will allo9w me to do so.

You have a ten year old dying daughter.  She has lung promblems.  
(Living in Mexico City is like smoking 4 packs of cigerates a day, although since this statistic it has gotten a little better.)

You have a choice; you can follow the laws of FAT AMERICANS (We are fat with excess of good and services and this; like Rome will be our fall)!

OR  You can "smuggle" your "ALIEN"  (of all words) here so that she might be saved.

You own nothing, God does.  

Someday America will will before God and he will ask why we gave Lazzerus NOTHING!
6  Theology / Debate / Re:Illegal Immigration on: December 02, 2004, 08:01:49 PM
Well, I think that we need border control to prevent these people from coming into our country. There are like 3 million illeagol aliens coming into our country each year. Free to walk right across the borders! Free to steal our jobs! Free to anyone to anyone who wants to come on over. Well, ya know what? Don't tell me that  we're doing all we can to prevent terrorism, when each day 8-9 thousand people come into our country illeagolly. Something has to be done about this!

What is our world!  Do you own anyting here where you stand!  Your home, does it belongh to you!

NO!  It was all given to you by God, you have been blessed but now you fear you jobs being lost, the economy falling, and your world coming down because someone is trying to make a life for themselves in this world.

I am sorry sir, but I tell you.  Go into Mexico, walk right in.  (bring a birth certificate)  

Start a factory.  (pay less than half of our minimum wages to your employees)  

Sell your products here in America!  

Sir, AMerican bussiness owners have stolen much more from Mexico and other Hispanic countries then they have us.

Futhermore....

I wish to place you into their soes if you will allo9w me to do so.

You have a ten year old dying daughter.  She has lung promblems.  
(Living in Mexico City is like smoking 4 packs of cigerates a day, although since this statistic it has gotten a little better.)

You have a choice; you can follow the laws of FAT AMERICANS (We are fat with excess of good and services and this; like Rome will be our fall)!

OR  You can "smuggle" your "ALIEN"  (of all words) here so that she might be saved.

You own nothing, God does.  

Someday America will will before God and he will ask why we gave Lazzerus NOTHING!
7  Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues on: December 02, 2004, 07:48:05 PM
"If you do nto understand it, please do not attack it but instead educate yourself."
                                    -My message to every conservative   Christian I have ever met
8  Theology / Debate / Re:Why don't we call for the president to stop killing IRAQI babies? on: December 02, 2004, 07:41:28 PM
President Bush claims to be against Abortion.  Abortion is killing.  But President Bush sends OUR armies into Iraq to kill people. They kill innocent civilians and Iraqi babies.

Why are we Christians not calling for President Bush to stop the killing of Iraqi babies?  Why aren't we calling for the President to stop killing ALL people - born and unborn?

THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

The verse is not thou shalt not kill, if your translation says this I advise you to find one that doesnt and discard this one.

The verse states "Thou shalt not MURDER"

If the verse said thou shalt not kill then in the wars that were fought as God's chosen people fought for the Holy Land would have went against his own law.

NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT EVEN SUGEST THAT WARS ARE AGAINST GOD.  NT or OT.

Also abortion kills many many more babies each week than Iraqis killed in this entire war.

Love,
Caleb
9  Theology / Debate / Re:Can women preach? on: December 02, 2004, 07:36:54 PM
Is God okay with that.Can a woman be a minister or only men?

You say preach and then minister.  These are two very diffrent things.  To preach is to teach and I believe that if one uses the closests translation they can, to minister is not even in question.  To minister is to feed, to give, to pray on, to nurture, ect.

Preaching could be in question understandbly.  Although I believe the verses used to support this belief refer to God saying women can not hold a possition of power.  

Teaching should not be a possition of power if done correctly.

Love,
Caleb

God Bless
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