Some argue that  many and possibly a majority of modern jews are not of semitic origen

Modern science may prove this one way or another in the near future.

Noting that the so-called Land Promises are based on blood lines Im curious whether anyone would be troubled if a large fraction or even a majority of modern jews turned out to have no linear connection to Abe at all.

Take care

Hitch

[Soon and very soon he will.]

Wanna bet?

Hitch

Sorry I missed this the first time..

Soon and very soon he will.

Definition please?

Im also curious about which Scripture it is that tells you this boogey-man is alive?

Now that takes some female logic...

Dad pays $100 for a Tux rental.. not bad...

Dad pays $5000 for a wedding dress...

What escapes me is the supposed savings???

Hmmmm Just about all of em Ollie...

They would be almost ready to start talking about the creation process..

Hmmmm I really cant see how anything in your post shows agreement or disagrrment with my monosylabic reply to the original. Any proximty escapes me altogether.

If you're saying there isnt much of the presence of God in the Episcopal Church ,I'd be inclined to agree but its unlikely Dan had  21st century Epicopalian ethics in mind, looking forward to the cross ,as he was.

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Hitch

God said that an abomination that causes desolation will be set up in the temple. The immediate prophesy was idols being set up in the 2nd Jewish temple in around 70AD. Does that take the form of a homosexual in the pulpit in the final days?

Nope

Well A4C at least your version reflects classical DF *thinking. But it wreaks havoc on all those millions of  pre-millennial Israel watchers.

Either the 'clock of prophecy' stopped and the church age is a parenthetical age,and no intervening events are occuring, waiting for the 'rapture' to remove the church and start the ticking again. Or, its all a bunch of nonsesne and the loudest defenders have by 'seeking a sign' exposed the leaky white underbelly of the DF thinker in the pew. Poor guy doesnt know that the proof for his any moment rapture is directly contrary to the existence of any 'signs'.  And the gold is in the 'signs' as Hal and Tim well know.

It's kinda like that wobboly spiral in the begining of the Twilight Zone

Take care

Hitch

* Even no less a classical DF than  Dr, Walvoord himself abandoned the 'stopped clock'...

[Daniel with out symbols or anything days are numbers for us. The fall of Jursalem twice, is a bench mark each one being told about before hand. 7 weeks or 49 years, the next time period is 62 weeks or 434 years. Has Isreal been restored yet? The restoration of Isreal, has been prophecied about but hasn't occured yet.]

 Music says;

Daniel with out symbols or anything days are numbers for us. The fall of Jursalem twice, is a bench mark each one being told about before hand. 7 weeks or 49 years, the next time period is 62 weeks or 434 years. Has Isreal been restored yet? The restoration of Isreal, has been prophecied about but hasn't occured yet.



Dans is famous for  living through the test of the 'lion's den'. This took place in Babylon, during  the exile.  Between Dan's time and the first century Jerusalem  and the temple had been rebuilt, twice. He said  as though reality were an issue here...

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Hitch

Will the creation be in bondage to corruption at that time?
Or will there even be a physical creation?  
Gee I though God said the creation was 'good'.  You dont like it? Quote:

Whether I like it or not is moot; Romans plainly tells us that the creation will someday be delivered from the bondage of corruption. What think ye?

Rom 8:21  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

asaph

I didnt understand the first question.

As to Romans; I reckon we see bits and pieces of this with every miracle recorded in Scripture. Most of which require the addition of new energy into the universe. An imposiblity, with out God.
Christ is the l focus of history. Not chronologically but as believers we know all previous history looked forward to his coming, just as all history since looks backward to his coming.The focus of this attention is supernatural. The physical resurrection if Christ . An infusion of new energy into the cosmos. Not the first but far and away the most powerful to date.  The 'First Fruits'.

So its seems logical that since God created all we see,and dont see in nature, and altered the day to day existence of it   by the supreme power of Resurrection of one Man ,forever changing the world we know, the resurrrection of all who have ever lived will bring permanent change, by much the same external energy infusion, to the whole of creation could not remain the same. As you noted  sin was  dealt with judicially, so far as we who struggle are concerned, but Christ's doings are powerful beyond what we can understand and he dealt with sin, and its derivities, death and degradation, by his coming to the physical,the Nativity, and his paving of the way ahead, by Resurrection. What is extraordinay is that he must bend to even look at the stars of heaven and  yet he humbled himself to the point of coming as an infant, set from eternity as the Sacrfice. Only this way could he lead us through Resurrection,  obviously had he not sufferred death he could not be raised.

sorry to get so preachy.

If you're saying Paul thinks all creation will be forever altered by the Resurrection,,yup. It was and it will be.

Take care

Hitch

answer me, do not throw mud.
you flamed up more then enough threads

note: ollie, the original thread starter, already unregistered from this forum

If you has a question I missed.  I do not 'answer' unsolicted advice.

Niether did I toss anthing your way except to agree with you that I have no patience,,, in your case.

Good work Sym.

With your permission I would like to reproduce this at another site.

H

But you on the other hand always seem to run out of it.

That is certainly true in your case.

H

[It's undestood that the beast is symbolic for the Antichrist.]

I have never seen the word 'antichrist' in the book of Revelation. I use mostly KJV What translation do you use?

It's not there.  It's undestood that the beast is symbolic for the Antichrist.

Why not just take on it your left hand?

If you're going to literalize it then the problem is solved.

Unless you're not allowed to....geez...insanely idiotic.

It's undestood that the beast is symbolic for the Antichrist.Antichrist is used four times in the Scriptures.  Which one(s) refer to a 'world leader'?

Why not just take on it your left hand?


If you're going to literalize it then  the problem is solved.

If you're going to be realist, the forhead and the right hand signify  that which we are occupied with and  that which our thoughts are devoted.

Take care

Hitch