[Would you like to have the knowledge, the assurance and the joy of sins forgiven? Would you like to be sure of heaven?]

Would you like to have the knowledge, the assurance and the joy of sins forgiven? Would you like to be sure of heaven?

"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?  
  19:17   And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments", (Matthew 19:16,17).
BUT.....no man can keep the commandments of God in their own human strenght.
And so.....    "For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth",(Romans 10:4).
Christ living in the converted person's life, controlling them, can keep all 10 commandments, thru the power of God...as demonstrated in the life of Jesus Christ.

Jesus said of himself...."Of mine own self, I can do nothing" (we can say the same thing).
Jesus Christ never kept the commandments of God in his own strenght, but with the power of God.

Ima thinkin' I only have the blood of Jesus that'll make me 'loyal to God'.

One must remember that heaven can be attain to, 'IF' the conditions are met.
  Revelation 3:5   "He that [overcometh], the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life..."

Amen, the law is not done away with, but is eternally written upon the hearts of those that love Him.

Ro 7:14  For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:


Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

OK, .....so far, so good.
Can you please tell us what law, is refered to in these verses ?

 oh ok  

You don't even want to ask me, to prove what I say ?

thanks for correcting me Ollie.. i meant the New Heaven descending onto the new earth.

The Bible said: God is going to 'make' a new heaven and new earth...because this earth will be destroyed.

 Are you referring  or trying to connect Isaiah 66:22-23 in Revelation chapter 21:1-2-9-25 when the new heaven and new earth which is Israel will descend on the new earth?

No, I wasn't trying to, but now that you mention it....they are tied together

 Amen we believers in Christ we will finally get our Eternal Shabbat (peace)which will be found in our beautiful saviour. I am looking forward to that day!

You overlooked what was said !

Isaiah  66:22   "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
 
  66:23   "And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD".    

[My Apostle Paul committed the UnPardonable Sin, and he was forgiven. No such sin under grace.]

If you're worried about commiting the sin against the Spirit, don't worry, because if you have committed that sin you would care.

My Apostle Paul committed the UnPardonable Sin, and he was forgiven. No such sin under grace.

Thank You Jesus

FALSE TEACHING!

Paul 'did not' commit the Unpardonabvle sin.
The very logic of unpardonable sin ...is...'the wages of sin is death', (Romans 6:23).

[SilverSurfer you get "TWO" more Thumbs Down]

You cannot lose salvation in this age but you only find that information in the Pauline epistles.

Salvation is not a matter of gaining or losing.

Salvation is a result....of not committing sin.

 Matthew 1:21   "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall [save] his people [from] their sins".  

 1 John 3:9   "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God".  

SilverSurfer you get "TWO" more Thumbs Down

I only present what the Bible says....it is your choice to believe what scripture says or not.

Jesus said:  "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by [every word] that proceedeth out of the mouth of God", (Matthew 4:4)  

[FALSE TEACHING!]

You cannot lose salvation in this age but you only find that information in the Pauline epistles.

FALSE TEACHING!

Salvation is not a matter of gaining or losing.

Salvation is a result....of not committing sin.

 Matthew 1:21   "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall [save] his people [from] their sins".  

 1 John 3:9   "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God".  

["without the deeds of the law]

Silver Surfer,

"Yes to break any of the commandments is sin, which results in eternal death, (Romans 6:23)"

You need to read the rest of the verse,

Rom 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

This is saying that by the grace of God through Jesus Christ we are saved from that eternal damnation.

Yes, I do agree it is important for us to strive to keep God's Commandments, for Jesus said,

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


The Bible also tells us:

Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

I place emphasis here on "without the deeds of the law.

Does this mean that once we are saved that we can forget the law and sin as we want and still expect it to go unpunished?

Rom 3:31  Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

If we truly love Jesus Christ we will strive to be more like Him.

To keep the law of God to be saved, is impossible. Because in human strenght, we have not the ability to do so., But with God....'all things are possible'.

I contend that Jesus Christ , who was sinless...living within...a born-again person....can also be sinless 'after' conversion:
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God", (1 John 3:9)  

So you are saying that you are perfect and without sin?

No, I'm saying that Jesus Christ said, to be perfect and live without sin...with MY (Christ's) grace which is enough:
Titus 2:11   "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  
  2:12   [Teaching us] that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, [in this present world]..."  

["without the deeds of the law]

Silver Surfer,

"Yes to break any of the commandments is sin, which results in eternal death, (Romans 6:23)"

You need to read the rest of the verse,

Rom 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

This is saying that by the grace of God through Jesus Christ we are saved from that eternal damnation.

Yes, I do agree it is important for us to strive to keep God's Commandments, for Jesus said,

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


The Bible also tells us:

Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

I place emphasis here on "without the deeds of the law.

Does this mean that once we are saved that we can forget the law and sin as we want and still expect it to go unpunished?

Rom 3:31  Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

If we truly love Jesus Christ we will strive to be more like Him.

To keep the law of God to be saved, is impossible. Because in human strenght, we have not the ability to do so., But with God....'all things are possible'.

FALSE TEACHING!

I contend that Jesus Christ , who was sinless...living within...a born-again person....can also be sinless 'after' conversion:
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God", (1 John 3:9)  

[FALSE TEACHING!]

FALSE TEACHING!

Dude...Let me remind you again that the Law at Sinai was given to Moses for the Children of Israel.

Does that include the 7th day Sabbath (4th commandment, which was established in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:2,3) ?

..this was the basic principles that Moses rested upon in order to pass out judgement. He relied on the Law given to him at Sinai (i.e. his Law...)

Do you realize that every one of the 10 commandments are found in the Book of Genesis ?

This law given at Sinai was the 10 commandments. These in turn gave moses the basis for writing out the Laws of Israel found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Keep in mind that they all go back tot he Law at Sinai...and i may be stepping out on a limb here, but they all fall under the Law that Paul says that death comes from.

Yes to break any of the commandments is sin, which results in eternal death, (Romans 6:23)

Just a thought...I do know the difference...do you?

Yes, and so does Jesus Christ when he said: "IF..you love me, keep my commandments", (John 14:15).
And God has a people who are loyal to him:
"Here is the patience of the saints...here are they that keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus", (Revelation 14:12)

God Bless

In HIS Service,
Jemidon

P.S. If i havn't reminded you before "THE LAW HAS BEEN ABOLISHED. AS A CHILD OF GOD I'M NOT UNDER THE LAW ANYMORE! I HAVE NO CONDEMNATION ANYMORE BECAUSE THE ONE WHO CAME (JESUS) FULFILLED AND ABOLISHED THE LAW SUCH THAT WE MAY LIVE UNDER GRACE. Get it? Got it? LIVE IT!

The Law at Sinai was the LAW OF MOSES!!! Lol...you just contradicted yourself bud. The Law given at Sinai was for the Children of Israel. No Paul wasn't confused...He was right on the ball. Christ came and fulfilled the law such that we through HIM would have NO condemnation. Get it, Got it? Good. Good day and God Bless

In Christ,
Joshua

Are you telling me that you don't know the difference betwen the 10 commandments, that Christ Himself wrote out on Mt Sinai.......and, the Law the Moses wrote out ?