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16  Welcome / About You! / Bye everybody on: July 14, 2004, 01:00:35 AM
Unfortunately, working ten hours a day didn't save my internet services, it did everything else though.  
My daughter turned back to God.
I thank God for this the most.
I really will miss this forum and the christian fellowship, reading the posts and meditations, going fishing!
It really was my only form of christian fellowship since I have no other time left after working.  I would stay up at night just to enjoy hearing about our awesome God, and share in the prayer requests.
I just found out about the classifieds and I was glad to partake in that too.  I think that is such a good idea for us.
Well, before it is turned off, Hopefully will be able to get the internet back, but all other things were caught up on.
Take care and will miss you all!

In Christ,   iconHis   Grin
17  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Please Pray for pain to go away... on: July 13, 2004, 09:23:05 PM
Hey 12 Stone!

Moving-ugh.  I'll be doing that in a month or so.

I'm praying you'll have help with your move so you won't have to move a lick!  But, I'll pray for your back too.  I know it's tough.  My husband always had back problems.  

Sorry you have these problems.   Angry

God Bless.

In Christ, iconHis  Grin
18  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re:Please Pray for pain to go away... on: July 13, 2004, 09:22:07 PM
Hey 12 Stone!

Moving-ugh.  I'll be doing that in a month or so.

I'm praying you'll have help with your move so you won't have to move a lick!  But, I'll pray for your back too.  I know it's tough.  My husband always had back problems.  

Sorry you have these problems.   Angry

God Bless.

In Christ, iconHis  Grin
19  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Awesome Scripture on: July 13, 2004, 01:58:58 AM
                  PSALM 20:5,6

5.  We will rejoice in they salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners:  the Lord fulfil all thy petitions.

6.  Now know I that the Lord saveth his anointed:  he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.

                                       Cool He loves us
                                                               iconHis
20  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Let`s go fishing! on: July 13, 2004, 01:51:04 AM
Listen up here!
I came here Friday and nobody showed up.  I had all this food, and brought catfish in a can even.  I brought my bible, the bass, baked beans, blackeyedpeas, coleslaw, greens, crablegs and garlic butter,corn on the cob, hush puppies, charcoal, fishn poles just in case, and nobody was here.
 I had to eat with my fingers and didn't have anything to warsh it down with!  Tongue

This Friday, a campfire 8:00pm sharp.  Bring the cats, I don't care, just heyalp with the cookin folks!   Grin

Dreamweaver, please bring fresh fish, not fish from the  12th
okay?  Unless of course, it's smoked fish.   Grin  iconHis
21  Prayer / Answered Prayer / Stepping forward on: July 12, 2004, 05:10:42 AM
I want to thank you for your prayers, and ask that they continue.  
I must praise God for His presence in our lives in the most profound ways that are perfect, because He is perfect.

People speak of miracles, I think it a miracle that God touches our lives before we even know it, not depending on our works, our miind, because He knows our hearts.
 
 I pray that no matter what, that I never overlook the faith that He has put in my heart.
 
I never doubt God, never want to.
 
I always doubt myself, ( I don't want to trust me).  

Am I seeing, listening, understanding what he is doing with me?  

That's the part I must let go and trust that even those things, He has total control, regardless of my efforts in presumptions.  

Although there's a battle with the Spirit and my soul, I trust the Lord to win because He already did by His resurrection. If I allow and am obedient, He will overcome.

At times I need another christian to praise, talk, and remember our Lord's peace in his inspired Word that He gave us.  
At times I need time just to stand still and wait for His movement.  I have always been alone with the Lord, although my whole family is saved.  There were times they rejoiced, yet this world has worn them into the rat race.  But, now is the time for their sight to be renewed.  With the exception of my Son who has gone back to His remembrance, the oldest child, and the youngest daughter who decided God wants her back with him in her life.
My direction was quickly taken care of once I wrote a prayer request, and with Felix's prayers, and assuming his parents, I was refreshed with joy from this forum.  Thank you to Felix and his parents.
Financial burdens seem so heavy for me since I helped my one daughters family for six months, this could only be God's blessing because I am a single mom that supported a family of six and I barely got on my feet after moving here a year and a half ago, leaving years of "stuff" behind.  Praise God for this.  He always has provided more than sufficiently for me, and blessed my children in their hard times through me, and I thank Him for that.
Now, God worked with me with another person who made it possible to finish the final catch up by my next check.  All I have to do is sleep and work ten hours a day one more week, and I will be even.  That's a miracle folks.  God provided a way and a job that has always been a blessing considering the flexibility with hours that was necessary with all the things wrong with me physically and criminal things that happened to a person in my family that really has made the whole year and a half a truley long forebearance.
So, you see, this was the end result that everythhing caught up with me no matter how hard I worked at anything, which  God provided when needed.
Praise God, Praise God's name, and let's all be thankful and rest in the Lord, for He loves us all in spite of ourselves or others.
 
Thank you again, but please pray for my consistancy this week and strength to do it for another six days.

Love in Christ,  iconHis     Smiley

Grant thee according to thine own heart, and fulfil all thy counsel.
We will rejoice in they salvatin, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners:  The Lord fulfil all thy petitions.
Now know I that the Lord saveth his anointed;  he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.
[/i]  Psalm 20:4-6
22  Prayer / Prayer Requests / sons wife..operation..either way could die on: July 12, 2004, 04:28:20 AM
I just found out tonight that my son's wife, Tina, has had cancer of the uterus at one time and it went into recession, has fibroids, and is back at it again with so many complications.
She has heart problems, to which my son can't explain as to what the problems are.  She also has kidney problems.  They went to the doctors, I guess last Friday, and found out that she needs to have a total hysteretamy.  If she doesn't get the operation, she will eventually die.  If she does there's a good chance that she will not make it.  They are pretty burdened, and my son asked me what I thought.  I told him to get a second opinion since there are reports that numerous hysterectamies have been unecessarily performed lately.
There's one catch to all this, they are both learning disabled.  They are not severe, but, consider how difficult it is for somebody that is not mentally challenged in this situation, considering when to speak up, discernment, and pulling it all together.  I just want to jump in there, but I don't dare too much.  They want help, but only to a point.    
If everybody could say a prayer for her direction, and God's overlooking and showing them the right path, I would appreciate it.  I will call her tomorrow and try to diplomatically help the best I can.  They are both saved, and really try to live for the Lord.  
They were told to make a decision as soon as possible.  I just have to talk to her tomorrow to get the whole prognosis by the doctor.  
I told my son I would ask all that I could to pray for her.
Thank you so much.  These two depend on each other to a great length.  They are so good together.  

Thank you so much, Love in Chirst,   iconHis
23  Theology / General Theology / Re:DO PEOPLE KEEP THE RIGHT TO FREE WILL, EVEN WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLING IN on: July 06, 2004, 04:23:19 AM
If we don't have free will, and or what free will entails:

Without free will we wouldn't have to be chastised, therefore no trials.

We would all be perfect because God would be forcing it to control us, and He can't have anything wrong with Him, He is perfect -  if we didn't have free will.

We wouldn't have "possible" rewards without free will.

We generally wouldn't have to be instructed on anything and given a choice to walk in love if we didn't have free will.

But most of all, God loves us and wants fellowship with us and gave us each a unique being that choses to live His will for a full life of joy in the Lord, or not to have a relationship and fellowship with Him.

I choose all that God wants for His will, and to live in the joy of the Lord!         Grin          Love In Christ,  iconHis
24  Theology / General Theology / Re:Losing salvation? on: July 06, 2004, 04:06:45 AM
I have not been offended by anything posted here.  So, Heidi, I accept your apology, and appreciate the concern.  Thank you for that consideration, yet I didn't take offense, just standing for the Grace of God.

As far as posting, I just post what I have found in the scriptures.  I will consider myself enlightened and taught if and when somebody points out something that shows true direction from something that I might have thought wrongly, or am unlearned in and that's highly possible in all my case.

I also want to state that I don't want to offend those that are Catholics.  There is 100% possibility that a catholic is saved, I know there are many saved believing the whole work of Jesus is enough to save any person for the ages, without trying to save themselves.  

aionian life - age life  

God loves the whole world, and reaches many in different sects, Praise His name.

Now, as far as losing salvation, all faculties of man work together in  salvation, therefore you cannot lose your salvation.  Yet, one cannot know how to allow God to refine, or overcome the sins in our life( to which we must be obedient in that fellowship), unless He is saved allowing the Holy Spirit that we are baptized into and sealed once saved to work and guide us from God's working with us.

I gave scripture separating the spirit, body, and soul.
First of all I have the fear of God.  I am open folks, but I have studied much more than this that covers many things in the Word concerning our walk up to the judgment seat of Christ, His millenial kingdom, and afterwards.

God makes all things work together.  I am not saying we work, I am saying God works and we must be obedient, or there's a stopper until we learn that we just can't go any further in God's will until we are.  Not all things in the walk with the Lord are works, I am only talking of those times when we know that we should be obedient, but usually, if your eyes are on the Lord the love from the Lord fills us with so much joy, we love to follow Him.  And that's basically all it is is following Jesus when He leads.  Usually when we stop it's because we want something else, or don't want to give up something else, or are just outright lazy.  

Faith without workks is dead, work without faith is dead

"For the fear of wisdom is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction."Proverbs 1:10

If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scoffest, thou alone shalt bear it."  Proverbs 9:10

Wherefore, receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and Godly fear.  Hebrews 12:28

For our God is a consuming fire.  Hebrews 12:29


Hebrews 5:7-9
Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death and was heard in that he feared,

Though he were a son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered:


Jesus knew how to fear, learn obedience- Moses feared
Then who are we not to?

[u]and being made perfect, he became the author of eternal  salvation unto all them that obey him[/u]

These verses tell me that not all things are lovey lovey.  If there is a Judgment Seat of Christ, then there is a judgment.  There are apostate Christians!  God has his degrees in matters.  You read it, from all the scriptures that say servants that I gave before, this is a somber thing that most just won't accept.  This is not pergatory.  This is something that is right in the Word of God.  This does not mean you do not go to heaven as far as I see it.  I see it as losing the thousand year reign with Christ in the outer darkness.  There's much more that I can write, but only one thing that I do want to impress.  I have studied this, not you.  You may choose to seek out the whole path of a deeper understanding of our salvation.  It is the meat.  Pressing towards the mark, receiving the reward.  But, we do not need to keep our eyes on that, just remember the motivator, that one day Jesus will have His glorious day, and look to His will in our lives for God's glory.  

I have learned that I am human and do have a soul, which is the flesh and the mind.  God is in control, and free will is all over this forum.  Free will is not only used in answering God's call, it is also used to allow the Lord to be Lord over our whole life so He knows us when He comes.   This is not something to just say oh, no, this stops assurance.  Assurance is simple.  But there are conditions to all aspects of our life in our salvation.  It is a lot easier to understand the scripture when you realize what is about rewards in the ,( the meat)kingdom and eternal salvation, ( the milk).

Paul is the author of this, Peter caught on, but each had theirs to reach.  Paul even did that what he didn't want to do and didn't do what he wanted to do.  He wrestled with the spirit and the soul, ( marrow-blood is made in the marrow, mind).

There is no contradiction here, only something new that needs to be studied and found ut if true or not.  All scripture works together.  Spirit, soul, which is the context speaking of.

There is power over the soul by Jesus Christ our Lord.  But we must rest and allow Him to work in us.

That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. Hebrews 6:9

Love, In Christ,  iconHis      Wink
25  Theology / General Theology / Re:Losing salvation? on: July 05, 2004, 12:22:31 PM
I did not say you could lose your eternal salvation.
I believe that Jesus died for our sins, did all the work on the cross for those that believe into Him and that those who trusted in the Lord will have everlasting life, none of our works are justified only those done through us by the Lord-therefore eliminating working for our salvation, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit once believing verifying that we are His forever, we must hope in the Glorious Day of the Lord which is the motivator of saving our souls.
I am not a Catholic, nor do I approve of that religion.
I did not say pergatory, and do know that what I did write was not carefully read, or rejected because you are not open to deeper truths.
We do have a walk on earth that depends on rewards and life in the kingdom, as far as I have studied, but this is an in depth study that goes beyond, obviously, and I knew it would, the general teaching.
Therefore, just because I have divided the word more than what you have been taught, doesn't mean it's contradictive, it just means I can focus more on resting in the Lord, and enjoying trusting in His movement in my life.  
I don't waste my time with who's who in religion if you read my first post in this thread because first of all religion is man going to God, I know that God called me, I answered, and wrestle just as Paul did with the flesh, but this is the Holy Spirit between the flesh and the process of allowing Jesus to overcome the sin whatever it may be.

I will come back with scripture, but it seems that some read the posts too fast.  Presumtion is not good.  And remember, I pointed out that hell is not the original text, therefore, I know that some did not read too well, only got on the old issues of works, hell, and pergatory.  I am not even aware of what pergatory exactly is, didn't study it, and know that it does not resemble what I stated.  Read your parables with understanding.  Did I not point out who they are talking about.  Take your time, re-read the scripture in context, who they are talking about, and maybe the truth will set you free of instant raving on the general and help you to dig deeper on your own rather than conditional acceptance.  I'm not saying you have to understand, I have read all your posts.
I have to work now.  Back with scripture later.
26  Theology / Apologetics / Re:Is It Right? on: July 05, 2004, 04:24:44 AM
I'm with you on the tithe.  There have been times when I only had five dollars and I would give two, not out of guilt, but because I just wanted to.

But, I always felt giving tithe shouldn't be because they used to give 10 percent, I felt it as giving for the work necessary for the church and it's people.  

     Thank you.    Grin

God let's us know, He loves us so much, He sees our heart.
27  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Are We in the End Times, Prophetic Signs on: July 05, 2004, 04:14:57 AM


That was the best I have ever seen yet!  Extremely appreciated!    

Praise God for all this and for bretheren such as you!

 Grin   iconHis
28  Theology / General Theology / Re:Losing salvation? on: July 05, 2004, 04:02:02 AM
I'm sorry, but I didn't say pergatory.  I didn't say anything about peace being taken away from the christian.  What I did point out is that ...

An apostate,( a christian fallen away from the faith will suffer loss, it's real obvious-to me by scripture).
Precept upon precept
context
who the scripture is talking to or about

The quote from 1 Corinthians 3 definately is speaking of the believer, and what happens when there is no works of gold, silver, or precious stones-suffering loss, although saved.
    There are those out there saved, yet fall away, only God
    knows their heart, not us, we can't judge by works
    everytime if somebody is saved
Matthew 25:14-30
Is talking about the master who "called his own servants" and the end result was one that the servant,(christian believer), was unprofitable,  and was cast into out darkness where ther will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  This is not pergatory.
This is the outrer darkness for one who rejects a life with the Lord after he is saved, for he is listed as a servant, just as the others.  

Same in the parable of chapter 24 of Matthew.
It talks about the "evil servant"  that says the Lord delays His coming.  This is one of God's children that began the mockery as prophesized would happen by Peter, and God says He will
"cut(dichodemize=bisect (in two-summizing soul and body) gk, yet still saved spiritually), and appoint (lie down in horizontal position) him his portion with the hypocrotes'  tjere sja;; be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

All ten virgins were saved, but there were five that didn't fill their lamps and were not ready, and the Lord came and"and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut"  Matt.25:10 This is rather obvious.  
Why do you think the Lord said He knew them not in verse 12 of Matthew 25?

We shouldn't be in fear of our salvation, but we should have the fear of God, for this is noted in the Word of God for salvation.  I'm not saying that our whole life should be works, fear, etc.  You most likely know what reverant fear is.  I know that Jesus did all the work, loves us sooo much, and we have assurance in our salvation.  I am pointing out exact scripture in context, and I know that this is deeper than what most want to go.  But, hey, I don't go on what man says alone.  I don't care what seminars have to say when I have been shown truths that answer some of what I hear they question.

It is so simple that I think all want to make everything so hard.
God is just showing us that our salvation was a gift, and He did send Jesus down to die for our sins and raise to life again.  This is an extremely huge sacrifice with our perfect living Lord.  What do you expect?  You know there is a judgment seat.  Assurance is promised, looking and loving the Lord with all our heart, body, mind is what He asks.  Our fellowship is extremely important for the will of God for His glory.  

Also, I know that we must rest so that the Lord can work through us.  Our life in Jesus is a peaceful, joyous, one that can never be duplicated by the unsaved.  We don't have to worry, that's a sin anyway-not trusting God, and we can trust in Him for everything.  So who are those apostate?  Many different reasons for apostasizing.  But the main one, as all sin is rebellion.  We all know that can snowball.  But God pulls us out and gives us much help in our lives.  
Yet there are those that reject that help over and over again.
In Christ   iconHis
29  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Let`s go fishing! on: July 05, 2004, 03:20:06 AM
Oh my gosh,

General fish digest....let's see here...

   ah ha,  Bass?   or  Orange Roughy?....?  Huh

anything but catfish! Tongue
30  Fellowship / You name it!! / December's Dimension on: July 05, 2004, 03:17:24 AM
Not asking for any prophetic conjuring up here,

just an estimated guess...

What do you think it will be like in this world by the month of

December this year?

I'm sure you all know what I mean.  But then again, there's

enough lines here to read between, you could come up with

just about anything.  Let's narrow it down;

1.  End time attributes, if any new
2.  Law and the U.S.
3.  Political

That's not very narrow, but you got the idea.   Grin
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