Neo-
What are your thoughts on Jesus Christ?
Do you believe He ever lived?
Do you think He was who He said He was?

Nimble-
It's too bad you really didn't want answers.
If you did you would have started a thread yourself and asked direct questions in that thread.
Also, you would have attempted to listen instead of attempting to discredit others.
When you ask questions about other areas of life, do you ask them with the intention of learning from the person or the intention of discrediting the person?
It makes a big difference in the answers you receive.

My biggest problem with this discussion is that the same churches who don't believe in women as ministers are the same churches who have women teaching children sunday school.  If you are going to go by the scripture when it comes to ministering and teaching adults why not children?

For starters, it's hard to get men to step up into the role of leading the youth unless their wives encourage them.
Also, women are supposed to lead other women.

a Christian as most of us are here believe in the Lord. We believe because we can feel his presents.

Presence, I hope.  Or are you thinking of Father Christmas?  

I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one who makes those type of typos.

ebia- you are free to take friendly jabs anytime I make a grammatical error. I promise to come back with a smile.

Just going to church services on the Sabbath will break the Sabbath.

Unless you have a church that has no pastor, no plumbing and no electricity.

Would you give me a reason to read his book? O wait, "reason" implies that stupid human logic thing doesnt it? Is there any reason why the book makes sense? Or is that stupid human logic? Isnt language derived from human reasoning? Isnt the computer you are typing on derived from human reasoning? same can be said about your A/C and heating, car, planes, kleenex, hair gel, sunglasses, etc.

When a non-Christian comes onto a Christian site and wants to argue what we believe, then that person should know what we believe.

i have yet to mention the bible. Can you quote me? I only argue that "God exists" is a contradiction in terms. I have yet to plunge into bible.

Then what book are you referring to here?

when your only source of reference is one book written by man and his stupid human reasoning.

hmm...so is that a personal attack? I think that was an attack on my integrity. Correct me if im wrong? I am here to discuss ideas, not make personal attacks on any of you. I would apppreciate it if you would refrain from doing so. I wouldnt get into the idea of being spoon fed ideas, when your only source of reference is one book written by man and his stupid human reasoning.

Since you confessed in the other thread that you have not read the Bible, I would suggest you refrain from critiquing it.
That would be kind of like me telling you how stupid a movie is when I've seen nothing more than the trailer for the movie. It would not be accurate at all.

How do you know that God is nonexistant when you know so little about His Book?

I try to carry on the rest of this conversation another time.
It's late and I have to go to work tomorrow.

Good night.

nimble- have you ever actually read the Bible?

neo and nimble-
There will always be things beyond your comprehension.
Something does not cease to exist just because it goes against human reasoning.

If god is beyond your comprehension, how do you know that he exists? And your argument seems to be composed of that stupid human reasoning.

Just because He's beyond your comprehension does not mean He is beyond everyone's comprehension.  

You best be careful how you word your posts. Some of us on this board found out there is a God because we didn't have a college professor spoon feeding us the ideas of man. Others on this board found out there is a God in spite of what their college professors taught them.

It is His desire that none will perish.
However, He never forces Himself on us.
He is pure and perfect love. If He forced us to accept Him, then that would not be pure or perfect love.
Therefore, He gives us free will. We are free to accept or reject Him.
If we accept Him, then we will spend eternity with Him.
If we reject Him, then we will go to hell.

God will not force you to make a decision.
He does not force anyone into Heaven.
He does not force anyone into hell.
We are to be held accountable for our actions. If a person rejects Christ, he has only himself to blame for landing in hell.

hmmm....that looks like deductive reasoning. I didnt know that you could apply human reasoning to God. I think someone here said that god transcends human reasoning. So, why would you use human reasoning in a conversation about god and his ways.

Who said I used human reasoning?
Ask my husband- I'm one of the most unreasonable women you could ever meet.  

What I used is what I've learned in Scripture.

neo and nimble-
There will always be things beyond your comprehension.
Something does not cease to exist just because it goes against human reasoning.

1.) I'm not angry at God - I simply do not believe in him. As I've said before, I'm about as angry at God as you are at leprechauns.

You will someday. I just hope it won't be too late.

2.) To His_child: Yes, I recognize that my (rather sarcastic) comment was in response to Calvinistic thought. Calvinists were my target audience.

Calvinists, like the rest of us, are just humans in need of a Saviour.

3.) If God predestines anyone for salvation, he necessarily predestines the rest for eternal damnation. According to Christianity, God created Hell, he created Satan, he set the stage for man's downfall, etc, etc. He cannot both be praised for the salvation of man and absolved from all blame for the fall and the sadistic nature of eternal punishment. If God is carries ultimate knowledge and ultimate power, then he also necessarily carries ultimate responsibility.

It is His desire that none will perish.
However, He never forces Himself on us.
He is pure and perfect love. If He forced us to accept Him, then that would not be pure or perfect love.
Therefore, He gives us free will. We are free to accept or reject Him.
If we accept Him, then we will spend eternity with Him.
If we reject Him, then we will go to hell.

God will not force you to make a decision.
He does not force anyone into Heaven.
He does not force anyone into hell.
We are to be held accountable for our actions. If a person rejects Christ, he has only himself to blame for landing in hell.

25. Not that it matters. I would ask you why you asked that, but I dont want to get off topic. I have a major in economics. And in philosophy. That might be why I renounced my formerly methodist beliefs.

It matters because I'm curious to know when you made a decision to follow Christ and when you renounced Him. I'm also curious to know why you first made a decision and then later changed your mind.
You've given some details as to why you changed your mind, but I missed the details about the day you gave your heart to Him.
What happened on the day you gave your heart to Him?