Ambassador4Christ , I know I have been gone for a while.
But why is there someone else doing Twobomms countdown?
What did I miss?

[One person esteems one day above another; and another esteems everyday alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who abserves the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it]

My point is, Do you follow the requierment for keeping the sabbath? And don't try to turn it around on me. You are the one that is so dogmatic about keeping the Sabbath. So I was just asking if you follow the requierments.Thats all.

Quote from John the Baptist:
So what is the point??? Can the ones under Grace now commit adultery? Is that what you are saying?? Kill?, Steal?, It seems that every denomination of today have 'the supper LEGAL LEGALISTS in them too? Check most on here perhaps??

John, you know that those queations are nonsense.

Quote from John the Baptist:
Well, is it or is it not? It cannot be both ways!

That was my point in my post to you.

Another Quote form John the Baptist:
But you believe that you cannot be held accountable for these MAGNIFIED sins because of Grace, right?
Or is it just the 7th day Sabbath of the forth commandment that you are under grace to trample on?

You assume to much, and because someone doesn't believe we have to follow the seventh day sabbath,  You condemn anybody that doesn't agree with you or understand you.


Romans 14:4-13
Who ane you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day above another; and another esteems everyday alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who abserves the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of Both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God."
So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one anothe anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way.

With that said if you want to live under the Seventh day Sabbath, go ahead, but don't burden us that are not persuaded to follow that law

Sorry John, I posted this in the wrong forum so I was going to move it and i deleted it only to find out you posted a response to so here it is again

I posted this on another forum, but thought it also fit here.

What Is required in keeping the Sabbath according to Mosaic Law:

1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he received a rock concert from the people he knew.

2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.

3. No traveling (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.

4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.

5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.

6."... a holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.

7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:. Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.

8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH

Of course you have followed all of this, right? Because if you just miss one the penalty is DEATH!

Those who worship on Saturday are not actually keeping God's command for the Sabbath, because they break the letter of the law. Especially when they try to lay guilt upon others for not keeping the Sabbath. Many say we are observing it by the Spirit of the law and then reinterpret it the way they want to. Either they practice by the letter which it is written in or they should admit to not upholding it correctly. When someone forces their practice upon others without upholding it themselves it then becomes legalism, and is hypocritical to say the least. Jesus dealt with the Pharisees, of whom he said, "they tie up heavy loads and lay them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger.' (Matt. 23:4) Those who seek to lay guilt on others for not keeping the Sabbath are practicing modern-day Pharsaism. They break the Sabbath themselves, but are ignorant of the laws requirements in the word of God. They become something they would certainly want to avoid.

Grace killers.

Thanks

I see you are still going, A4C . You are like the energizer bunny.

I just wanted to send the cheer leading team back in...

Go A4C Go

I want to also wish you a HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY

Hello A4C,

I think you missed counted

Posted by: Ambassador4Christ  Posted on: May 26, 2003, 12:34:39 PM  
TwoBombs Countdown  
2nd Coming: January 2011    

2,875 Days and Counting            

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70th week: Spring 2004  

mid week: 13 September 2007 at 8.00 CET  


Posted by: Ambassador4Christ  Posted on: Today at 02:24:21pm  
TwoBombs Countdown  
2nd Coming: January 2011        

Only 2,875 Days and Counting              

More Dates From TwoBombs    

70th week: Spring 2004  

mid week: 13 September 2007 at 8.00    

I think all these numbers are starting to look alike  

Its nice to meet you Seven_Tides Grace & Peace

When is your birthday?  

It is nice to meet you Seven_Tides and wecome to the forum

A4C, my birthday is Aug 6th, so when you are ready you could start my birthday count down

Female President?

Hillary Clinton goes to a primary school to talk about the world.
After her talk she offers question time. One little boy puts up his hand, and the Senator asks him what his name is.

"Billy"

"And what is your question, Billy?"

"I have three questions.  First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan;  second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; and third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?"

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary Clinton informs the
kiddies that they will continue after recess.

When they resume Hillary says, "Okay where were we?  Oh, that's right its question time. Who has a question?"

A different little boy puts his hand up;  Hillary points him out and asks him what his name is.

"Steve"

"And what is your question, Steve?"

"I have five questions.  First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan;  second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House; fourth - why did the bell go 20 minutes early; and fifth - what happened to Billy?"

That was funny, i am going to borrow this if you don't mind

Mike , Where did you get that information.
I would like to read more about them.

Not that I believe in a Mid-Trib rapture. As I have told you I believe in a Pre-Wrath rapture.

Quote Ambassador 4 Christ:
The Word of God

God has promised us eternal life in His Word, and He has provided this wonderful life through His Son.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." (John 3:36)

The promise is that whoever believes in the Son "has everlasting life." Notice that it doesn't say that the person who belives may one day obtain everlasting life, but that the person "has" everlasting life, the very moment they believe in Him. The gospel of John repeats this wonderful promise many times. In fact, one of the key reasons the book of John was written was that, "... you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name" (John 20:31).

In keeping with this stated purpose, John records Jesus' use of the expression "most assuredly" (translated "verily, verily" in the KJV) twenty five times. In the Greek it is "amen amen." The word "amen" comes from a root word which means "firm." It could be translated "surely" or "truly." It is closely akin to the Hebrew word for "believe" or "faithful." When the word "amen" is repeated, it becomes an expression of absolute trust and confidence. Jesus used this expression in John 5:24 to assure us of God's promise.

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life."

We know that God's Word is true, therefore it gives us assurance. Titus 1:2 tells us that we have the "hope (i.e. the confidence, assurance) of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began." The 119th Psalm, which is a testimony to God's Word, says, "The entirety of Your Word is true, and every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever" (verse 160).

The Bible is God's testimony to us, written that we may know that we are saved.

"These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, ..." (I John 5:13)

Many people today are listening to the traditions and teachings of men or religious organizations instead of listening to the testimony of God's Word. The only source of absolute truth is the Word of God. Be assurred. We can know that we are saved because God's Word promises eternal life to those who believe in the finished work of His Son.


AMEN  

Well put A4C

John,

My miss spelling as you say, was a typing error  

And to address the other problem of not understanding what you are trying to say It is not only on this website but on the other website you go to, It is not God's word that we can't understand it is the way you us it that is confusing.

Now if we here and those on the other site can't understand, the only common denominator between the two,is you!

You need to try to make your point a little more clear  

Saved_4ever said to John:
Your biggest problem is you think your really smart but really you haven't a clue and you "interesting" way of being "artistic" in your writing is plain silly and usually makes no sense to sane people.  To bad you cab't just be a biblicist and believe what you read.

I think I have heard this somehwere before

[Just perhaps it should read that Christ & His Angels do not make known the day or the hour?]

Quote from John:
And about no one but God knowing the day and the hour verse? Do you claim that this was a statement of 'forever'?
In other words, when Christ & His Angels are on their way here in the clouds, that they will still not know the day or the hour?? Or us ?
Perhaps the verse needs MORE STUDY .
Just perhaps it should read that Christ & His Angels do not make known the day or the hour?

Are you John suggesting that we change what Jesus himself wrote? He said that "of that day and hour no one knows,not even the angels of Heaven, But My Father ONLY".
Mark13:32 indicates that even Jesus Himself did not know the day and hour of His return. When the Lord Jesus was on earth, He voluntarily limited His use of His divine attributes (see John 17:4,5;Phil.2:5-8).Therefore He became hungry, thirsty, and tired. Luke records that Jesus grew in knowledge and wisdom (see Luke 2:52).In this instance, Jesus surrendered the use of His divine omniscience.

Your other question is just a silly question  

And I quote you:
Do you claim that this was a statement of 'forever'?
In other words, when Christ & His Angels are on their way here in the clouds, that they will still not know the day or the hour?? Or us ?

After rereading some of the posts I see I Have miss quoted and said that Paul said that chapter 12 of Revelation is the church But It was Prophecyjax1 that Said that.

So I apologize to you Paul