I,agree wholeheartedly.I really feel bad for Oprah.She seems to be always searching for some kind of fulfilment,that we know only comes from the One and True Wise God.Last year it was "the secret,this year it's "a new earth". You know I actually heard her say ,that there couldn't possibly be only one way to God and that you, yourself are the light! not Jesus,but yourself .Oh get this ,she also said that there is no sin and that your salvation comes from within. Had to say I was really surprised and disappointed to hear this out of her ,thought she had way more sense than that. Unfortunately,she has a lot of influence on a lot of people. I pray that she is not purposely misleading people,as she still says she is a Christian. Just goes to show you of how aware of the times we should be. Wonder how many Christians believe in reincarnation now just because  she endorsed it. John10:After he has gathered his own flock,he walks ahead of them and they follow him because they recognize his voice.5They won't follow a stranger;they will run from him because they don't recognize his voice.

Just wondering if anyone caught the Oprah show on Tuesday May 13th,2008. She was discussing people being reincarnated. Of coarse, she believes in it like she believes in this new age teaching by a man name Eakart Tolle. Just wondering what the rest of my brothers and sisters think about the subject? I personally try to stay clear of any teaching contrary to the word of God.

To me  with all due respect and love it, at times it does not sound as though we're saying the same thing. I still have a problem with condemning people to hell because of the laziness of one Christian,which I believe is what started the whole discussion,remember" a letter from hell" a friend going to hell because one saved friend didn't witness to him about Christ. And even though this is a fictional story,I couldn't help but to ask if it was true ,who's to say the friend would've accepted Christ anyway. So to all my brothers and sisters let's agree on this one thing in this discussion. We all agree that there is a heaven and there is a hell,and since in this fictional story a soul was sent to hell supposedly b/c one saint in particular didn't witness to him. Let's continue to make it our business to tell everyone we know about Jesus. One thing they taught us in cosmetology school is never to talk about race, religion,or politics in the salon.Since I have relationship with God and not religion,[lol] I make it my personal business to witness to unbelievers,and encourage believers to stay in the race. This way I'm not breaking the rules.[lol] Yes I'm that beautician that is probably praying for you while I'm washing your hair,and I don't mind stopping what I'm doing to pray for you in private either b/c prayer is always in order,even in the beautyshop.Instead of gossiping I enjoy witnessing. Now I'm going to crank it up a thousand b/c of what it sounds like you all are saying. I don't want to be held accountable for anyone's lost soul, just in case you all are right. Woo, It's a good thing I love to witness! SO BE WARNED LAZY CHRISTIANS! also remember that verse in Rev21:8 with that list of people that were put into the lake of fire? it said cowards who turned away from me. Do you all think that qualifies as not witnessing or people who backslid? Or better yet, how about Mark8:38"If a person is ashamed of me and my message in these adulterous and sinful days,I, the Son of Man will be ashamed of that person when I return in the glory of my Father with the holy angels." Now that's deep. So let's get busy not just witnessing with our talk,but with our walk also.Like my Granny said ,who is also a minister of the gospel, "sometimes people can't hear ya for seeing ya!" Much Love!  P.S. This forum has been great for a sister that is going through a tough time in life. It helps me keep my mind on the Lord and not on my circumstances.Thanks for all your prayers.Keep on praying for me.

If what I understand you to be saying you do not believe that a tribesman in the deepest part of Africa, that may never had a missionary come and tell them about Jesus, will not be sent to hell.  Is that correct?

If so could you please bring forth some Scripture that would support that?  Not your personal beliefs or feelings, but what does God's book say about His judgement?

[/quote/] The reason I believe the way that I do Is because of the scriptures. Let me start off by saying I don't claim to know it all. I believe Christianity is something we all walk in and grow in continually everyday.I also believe that one person does not know it all or have all the right answers we are to learn from one another. I think We as Christians do need to be very careful on who we condemn to hell. Don't get me wrong I'm a firm believer that there is a  heaven and a hell.those who hear the gospel and except that as the truth in our hearts and confessed Jesus Christ as our savior will gain eternal Life with the Lord, but the scripture says to him that know to to right but don't to him it is sin. It is called the sin of omission. Now according to the scripture In Matthew 24th ch. Jesus himself said the end would not even come until the gospel had been preached throughout the whole world. I believe the whole world includes the deepest part of Africa,Asia, Europe or whereever. Even the Apostle Paul taught on the very thing we are discussing in Romans 10. The scripture also talked about how beautiful are the feet of those who bring the Good News. In Colossians 1 he said that the same good news that was preached to them was being preached all over the world. He wrote that almost 2000yrs. ago and that same Good news traveled all the way to the United States and was preached to us , we believed it and now we are saved . The scripture says it is God's will that no one should parish, but that all come into the knowledge of the truth.It also says that Hell was not made for us ,but for Satan and his angels.The Apostle Paul also said that he committed the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the holyspirit, but since he did it in ignorance God was merciful and forgave him. Does that sound like the same kind of merciful God that would send people to hell for not knowing the truth. When establishing a relationship with God you start understanding just who God really is,by studying his word. He will make sure that everyone has some type of knowledge of who he is. The scripture said he put it down in the heart of every man the belief that he exists. So people who choose to go to hell will not be gong out of ignorance.They will know exactly why they are there. To say they won't know is calling God's word a lie. It's saying that his gospel was not preached through out the world and that he didn't put the belief of him down in every heart of every man. It's saying God skipped a few people like people down in the deepest part of Africa or where ever and considered them not worthy of hearing the gospel. If camera crews can get down there to show us on t.v. that those people exist.Trust me he can lay it on a missionary's heart to go there and preach the gospel. Doesn't that sound more like the God We know and serve? Finally in the book of Revelation ch.21:8 the Apostle John gave a list of the people who would have there part in the lake of fire. I didn't see people who never had heard of Jesus Christ on that list,unless I missed something in that scripture. Like I said I don't claim to know it all.but the people that was on that list is what proves to me that God is just.

In response to a couple of the last comments, all I'm simpley saying is Because God is Merciful everyone will have at least one chance, to accept or reject the truth. Yes God is also very just. That's why I know the young man had to make a choice either by denying the truth or ignoring it. Every one Gets a chance.You can't be held accountable for what you don't know,b/c God is Just.

I was just reading the discussion about "why do church people die?" when I got to the end of it someone was discussing a youtube or Godtube video "A letter from hell" I'm kind of new with this whole computer thing so this is my first time hearing about any of it. So i checked it out on Youtube because I couldn't pull it up on Godtube. Well I know it is all fictitious, but I don't fully agree with this video. Although I truly believe there is a heaven and hell,it seems as though this character was sent to hell without ever being introduced to Christ, without the chance to even know who Christ is and then choose wether or not to except the truth or reject it,and that's just not biblical. According to the word of God you're only held responsible for what you knew to do and then don't do it. God does not send anyone to hell.You choose to go by rejecting the truth and not accepting God's plan of salvation. In order for this young man to end up in hell he had to have heard the truth at least once, felt a tugging in his heart and still ignored it or just rejected it.The word of God says the day you hear my voice, harden not your heart. It also says that it is his will that None should parish, but all come into the knowledge of the truth. You mean to tell me it was the friends sole responsibility to lead the young man to  Christ otherwise the young man is damned to hell with out any other chance? that doesn't make any sense, nor does it line up with the word of God.It's like saying God isn't merciful, when we all know he is.Especially in our ignorance.